[Locked] Jacob is a huge jerk.

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devsonfire wrote...
KageNoKyo wrote...
devsonfire wrote...

Two wrongs doesn't make a right indeed, but I've never seen a person who broke the law pointing out hypocrisy towards someone who's being unethical. In real life, it's better to be unethical than being in jail.

At the end of the day, someone's gonna buttfuck you in there whereas being unethical can make you richer than you are now, legally, and not at the expense of others, because these people who paid are willing to pay for it.


I must thank you for sharing my view that Jacob, is in fact, a successful criminal.


Nah, he's just a successful unethical person, according to your opinion. To me, he's just a good opportunist. You on the other hand, I just hope you don't get caught.


Ideas. are. bulletproof.
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KageNoKyo wrote...
devsonfire wrote...
KageNoKyo wrote...
devsonfire wrote...

Two wrongs doesn't make a right indeed, but I've never seen a person who broke the law pointing out hypocrisy towards someone who's being unethical. In real life, it's better to be unethical than being in jail.

At the end of the day, someone's gonna buttfuck you in there whereas being unethical can make you richer than you are now, legally, and not at the expense of others, because these people who paid are willing to pay for it.


I must thank you for sharing my view that Jacob, is in fact, a successful criminal.


Nah, he's just a successful unethical person, according to your opinion. To me, he's just a good opportunist. You on the other hand, I just hope you don't get caught.


Ideas. are. bulletproof.


Funny, yours are full of holes...
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Likhos01 Monster Girl Lover
KageNoKyo wrote...

Excellent rebuttal.

Why don't you go ahead and follow your idealistic, misguided sense of righteousness and pay $30 for every hentai title you have ever fapped to.

And why not pay crunchyroll for subtitled anime. No torrents.

Don't even bother reading or downloading manga online. Go to a bookstore and buy it.

Then you tell me what your subjective value of porn is compared to every other media you'd be forced to pay for without your privileges.


I pay for my shit and I got no problem with that.
I consider it a tribute for an author who does an awesome job.
Hentai is not made to be free in the first place. What happens is only how it's supposed to work.

KageNoKyo wrote...

Why aren't you serious?
Why aren't you defending the things you like?
Why are you allowing yourself to be stepped on and taken advantage of?

Do you not deserve the freedom of entertainment?


So you like watching hentai but don't want to contribute in the industry by completing the circle of merchandising.
You are defending unethical and illicit activities.

You consider being stepped on something that's natural.
Manga and hentai are a market, it is fuelled by money in the first place, if you are immature to the point of not realising that, you have nothing to do in this world.

tl;dr go live like a hermit in some third world country and never come back.
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KageNoKyo wrote...
yummines wrote...
KageNoKyo wrote...
Chlor wrote...
KageNoKyo wrote...
Do you not deserve the freedom of entertainment?


Frankly, you don't deserve squat if you can't pay for it. Whether you're fine being a mooch is up to you, but you don't get to bitch and whine over that people get sick and tired of your shit.


I can afford to pay. And I can always get back what has been lost. But you will not expect silence from the audacity of Jacob to make a lucrative deal at the expense of other's.

Though what he has done may have been legal. It certainly was not ethical.


>violates copyrights by pirating manga daily
>says what Jacob did was unethical

my sides


unethical - not conforming to approved standards of social or professional behavior; "unethical business practices"
wrong - contrary to conscience or morality or law; "it is wrong for the rich to take advantage of the poor"; "cheating is wrong"; "it is wrong to lie"

Two wrongs doesn't make a right. I am free to point out Jacob's hypocrisy as much as you pointed out mine.


I just find it really ironic that someone who is technically stealing by law is calling out Jacob who is trying to legitimize hentai in America.

What's exactly so unethical about his practice? Since hentai is rising in popularity in America he decides to bring it over legally through official means. Uncensored with official translations. The exact same thing happened with manga in America when companies like Viz and Kodansha started taking down manga hosting sites. Even so Fakku itself still is a hentai hosting site, not to mention Jacob himself said he only asked them to put his releases on the "do not upload" list.

It was certainly bad timing but in reality it's more like he became a huge scapegoat
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This has been the best thread on Fakku in a long time.
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Kaimax Best Master-San
Freedom of Entertainment =/= Anything that I like have to be Free.
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What exactly has happend? I mostly just come to Fakku for fapping and lurk on a ocasion or two.
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[size=8]I don't care about the whole "jacob stole muh hentai" thing.[/h]
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Foreground Eclipse wrote...
Spoiler:
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[size=8]I don't care about the whole "jacob stole muh hentai" thing.[/h]


You should have changed Reich to Fakku

:3
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BagMan wrote...
Foreground Eclipse wrote...
Spoiler:
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[size=8]I don't care about the whole "jacob stole muh hentai" thing.[/h]


You should have changed Reich to Fakku

:3


fgt [size=4]wuv u 2 bby[/h]
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Foreground Eclipse wrote...
BagMan wrote...
Foreground Eclipse wrote...
Spoiler:
Forum Image: http://a.pomf.se/zfddhl.jpg
[size=8]I don't care about the whole "jacob stole muh hentai" thing.[/h]


You should have changed Reich to Fakku

:3


fgt [size=4]wuv u 2 bby[/h]


ur so fugin gay [size=3]wanna make out?[/h]
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Kaimax wrote...
ProBots wrote...
I honestly can't see the artists gaining any significant amount of money with this deal.


Honestly, If they can get any amount of money at all from this deal it's still a lot better before the deal where they get nothing from scanlations.

Honestly, how many of you even buy them directly from Japan.


I have a bunch of stuff that I bought directly from japan, but none of them is doujinshis yet though.

They impossible to find. The ones I want anyways.
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Kaimax wrote...
Freedom of Entertainment =/= Anything that I like have to be Free.


So much this. I'd like to know which nation has a Freedom of (Free) Entertainment in its outline of human rights.
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Cruz Dope Stone Lion
yummines wrote...

who is technically stealing by law


Quite the slippery slop we got here if viewing modified(often heavily) non-commercialed work is "stealing". By that logic, viewing let's plays or listening to a some fans cover of a certain song is also stealing.


I don't think it's as cut and dry as many people think, but as long as the legal precedence is there people will continue to be obnoxious and vindictive assholes about this.(entitled, entitled, entitled, entitled)


As someone who wants to wants to create content(vidya games) that's enjoyed and appreciated by many, I wouldn't feel right about trying to protect my IP that hard, especially in areas where the service is non-existent or illegal. Piracy generally opens up more doors than it closes. I'm not to fond of steam these days but Gaben was right, Piracy generally is a service problem.(that netflix idea doesn't seem bad to be honest)
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Kaimax Best Master-San
Callonia wrote...
They impossible to find. The ones I want anyways.


Not impossible if you have friends that can actually go to comiket and buy it for you, then send it later. I only have 3 doujins though, customs is bullshit in here, anything NSFW will be confiscated.
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BagMan wrote...
Foreground Eclipse wrote...
BagMan wrote...
Foreground Eclipse wrote...
Spoiler:
Forum Image: http://a.pomf.se/zfddhl.jpg
[size=8]I don't care about the whole "jacob stole muh hentai" thing.[/h]


You should have changed Reich to Fakku

:3


fgt [size=4]wuv u 2 bby[/h]


ur so fugin gay [size=3]wanna make out?[/h]


Hell no. [size=8]meet me in the infirmary after lunch[/h]
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Kaimax Best Master-San
cruz737 wrote...
-I wouldn't feel right about trying to protect my IP that hard, especially in areas where the service is non-existent or illegal.

-Piracy generally is a service problem.(that netflix idea doesn't seem bad to be honest)


The Japanese RAWs is the real problem.

So, it's not a service problem for the western community that started the DMCA but it's more the Japanese people pirating the Japanese raws from western hosting sites.

The Comic-Han debacle is probably the strongest cause, Japanese Raws uploaded 1 month before the actual magazine release date.
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Cruz Dope Stone Lion
Kaimax wrote...
cruz737 wrote...
-I wouldn't feel right about trying to protect my IP that hard, especially in areas where the service is non-existent or illegal.

-Piracy generally is a service problem.(that netflix idea doesn't seem bad to be honest)


The Japanese RAWs is the real problem.

So it's not a service problem piracy but it's more the Japanese people pirating the Japanese raws.


Still seems like a service problem to me. Japan is not the only country that exist. And again:

cruz737 wrote...
Piracy generally opens up more doors than it closes.


Even if you managed to convince every site to block Japanese IP's(I think Fakku is blocked in Japan), it wouldn't prevent people from acquiring raws. Fighting non commercialized content on the internet is a pointless uphill battle. Also I'm not sure about how "try before you buy" does in Japan, but there still seems to be a conflict of interest if customers/potential customers don't want to automatically commit to a purchase.
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Kaimax Best Master-San
cruz737 wrote...
Kaimax wrote...
So it's not a service problem piracy but it's more the Japanese people pirating the Japanese raws.


Still seems like a service problem to me. Japan is not the only country that exist.


But Japan is the only country where Wani get their actual sales from (and small number of insignificant imports).

I'm not here to debate whether Piracy is good marketing or straight up stealing, but I'm just explaining one of the possible major causes for Exhentai's content removal.
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Kaimax wrote...
cruz737 wrote...
Kaimax wrote...
So it's not a service problem piracy but it's more the Japanese people pirating the Japanese raws.


Still seems like a service problem to me. Japan is not the only country that exist.


But Japan is the only country where Wani get their actual sales from (and small number of insignificant imports).

I'm not here to debate whether Piracy is good marketing or straight up stealing, but I'm just explaining one of the possible major causes for Exhentai's content removal.


I fail to see why the japanese raws would be the major cause for EX's content removal.

I agree they may be a contributing factor, but definitely not the major one. If it were the major cause, most or all of EX's content would have been removed long ago. This is assuming both sides acknowledge that DMCA's have been issued previous this current date.