There is no difference between 320Kbps mp3 and lossless flac

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    Sindalf Translation Team Leader Posts: 1,079
    Feb 12, 2010 at 2:44 pm
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    See title.
    Nashrakh Little White Butterflies Staff Posts: 2,350
    Feb 12, 2010 at 2:59 pm
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    This is a topic of endless discussion, especially with musicians.

    Thing is: Can we actually hear the difference? At some point, it doesn't matter anymore. Some say that is 192kbps+, others claim they hear the difference with much higher bitrates (crash and cymbals are good indicators)

    Is there a difference between 320kbps mp3 and losless flac? Yes.

    Is it audible? No.
    catfish Posts: 1,601
    Feb 12, 2010 at 3:02 pm
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    Nashrakh wrote...
    Is there a difference between 320kbps mp3 and losless flac? Yes.

    Is it audible? No.


    I can hear a difference between a 320kbps mp3 and flac version of an album I have, so... that doesnt work for me.
    Nashrakh Little White Butterflies Staff Posts: 2,350
    Feb 12, 2010 at 3:03 pm
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    catfish wrote...

    I can hear a difference between a 320kbps mp3 and flac version of an album I have, so... that doesnt work for me.

    Well some can, some others can't.

    In double-blind tests many so-called audiophiles couldn't (even at lower bitrates).
    edibleghost Posts: 1,024
    Feb 12, 2010 at 3:28 pm
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    Sindalf I'll rep you when I get it back. Only fags *cough* TMS *cough* use flac.
    Nashrakh Little White Butterflies Staff Posts: 2,350
    Feb 12, 2010 at 3:31 pm
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    I don't get why Sindalf got the -rep... for stating his opinion in IB? wtf.
    Waar Global Moderator Posts: 5,784
    Feb 12, 2010 at 3:35 pm
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    Nashrakh wrote...
    I don't get why Sindalf got the -rep... for stating his opinion in IB? wtf.


    haters my friends, some people are simply haters.
    Harmonian Posts: 1,686
    Feb 12, 2010 at 3:39 pm
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    Waar wrote...
    haters my friends


    Sindalf hates me?
    Nashrakh Little White Butterflies Staff Posts: 2,350
    Feb 12, 2010 at 3:40 pm
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    Well then... +rep for Sindalf to make up for it.

    Oh man... I just wasted the potential -rep I wanted to give a certain somebody.
    Sindalf Translation Team Leader Posts: 1,079
    Feb 12, 2010 at 3:49 pm
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    catfish wrote...
    Nashrakh wrote...
    Is there a difference between 320kbps mp3 and losless flac? Yes.

    Is it audible? No.


    I can hear a difference between a 320kbps mp3 and flac version of an album I have, so... that doesnt work for me.


    Prove that it is just not placebo.
    catfish Posts: 1,601
    Feb 12, 2010 at 3:50 pm
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    Well, there's a certain CSHHCHCHRSHSCHRCHSCHRSCHRSHRCSRHCSHRCSHRCSHRCHRSCHRSCHRSHCRSRCHSRCHRSCHSRCHSCRHSC in the background of my mp3 so, well... yeah.
    ImperialX Posts: 2,582
    Feb 12, 2010 at 7:13 pm
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    Are you using $2 earphones?
    ShaggyJebus Posts: 3,505
    Feb 12, 2010 at 7:27 pm
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    There is a difference, a BIG difference!

    Lossless flac is a hell of a lot bigger. And doesn't play on (some, maybe all? at least mine) mp3 players.

    Flac is useless to me because of that. I never even listen to music on my computer anymore, since it's so shitty and can't do two things at once. Oh yeah, and the fact that I cannot notice any change whatsoever. But I don't own $500 headphones (lol who buys those?). Being tone-deaf and knowing nothing about music doesn't help either.
    Sindalf Translation Team Leader Posts: 1,079
    Feb 12, 2010 at 7:29 pm
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    ShaggyJebus wrote...
    There is a difference, a BIG difference!

    Lossless flac is a hell of a lot bigger. And doesn't play on (some, maybe all? at least mine) mp3 players.

    Flac is useless to me because of that. I never even listen to music on my computer anymore, since it's so shitty and can't do two things at once. Oh yeah, and the fact that I cannot notice any change whatsoever. But I don't own $500 headphones (lol who buys those?). Being tone-deaf and knowing nothing about music doesn't help either.


    Alot of people buy those headphones actually. Know a good amount of people who own them.
    Badguy Posts: 4,011
    Feb 12, 2010 at 7:31 pm
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    One day in the year 2012 vowels will have something to say about this.
    TehMikuruSlave Posts: 2,267
    Feb 12, 2010 at 7:34 pm
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    Pic related; would rage again.
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    ImperialX Posts: 2,582
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    ShaggyJebus wrote...
    There is a difference, a BIG difference!

    Lossless flac is a hell of a lot bigger. And doesn't play on (some, maybe all? at least mine) mp3 players.

    Flac is useless to me because of that. I never even listen to music on my computer anymore, since it's so shitty and can't do two things at once. Oh yeah, and the fact that I cannot notice any change whatsoever. But I don't own $500 headphones (lol who buys those?). Being tone-deaf and knowing nothing about music doesn't help either.


    You can tell the difference as long as your headphones are over $100.
    Sindalf Translation Team Leader Posts: 1,079
    Feb 12, 2010 at 7:37 pm
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    ImperialX wrote...
    ShaggyJebus wrote...
    There is a difference, a BIG difference!

    Lossless flac is a hell of a lot bigger. And doesn't play on (some, maybe all? at least mine) mp3 players.

    Flac is useless to me because of that. I never even listen to music on my computer anymore, since it's so shitty and can't do two things at once. Oh yeah, and the fact that I cannot notice any change whatsoever. But I don't own $500 headphones (lol who buys those?). Being tone-deaf and knowing nothing about music doesn't help either.


    You can tell the difference as long as your headphones are over $100.


    That is an absolute lie. Just what are you basing this on?
    ImperialX Posts: 2,582
    Feb 12, 2010 at 7:39 pm
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    Sindalf wrote...
    ImperialX wrote...
    You can tell the difference as long as your headphones are over $100.


    That is an absolute lie. Just what are you basing this on?


    I use a pair of Sennheiser HD555s, which are just barely over $100 as of the current price on Amazon.

    The difference between 320kps MP3 and FLAC is as big as day and night on those.
    Nashrakh Little White Butterflies Staff Posts: 2,350
    Feb 12, 2010 at 7:43 pm
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    One word: psychology.
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