[Locked] Forum Censorship

Is there any particular reason the mentioning of other hentai sites actually makes you unable to post at all? A user asked for some hentai advice in a forum topic and I gave him my suggestions, but I was only able to do so after extensively editing my wording to not be blocked.

My post has a response, and I come back to see all of what I said in direct relation to the sites was replaced with an asterisk. Am I missing something here? Seriously Fakku, are you trying to remove mention of competition? Jacob himself admitted that scanlations are necessary for a variety of reasons that he's attempting to resolve here in Fakku, but seriously... wtf

Should a legitimate business that works with companies and artists overseas hold discussions about which site is the best to pirate the aforementioned company/artists product?

I would say it would be a bad idea to allow it.

It's between users. You as a company aren't promoting anything. I'm pretty sure everybody in the internet distribution business has heard about forums, and forums are filled with MEMBERS not staff. We don't speak for Fakku. We speak to each other. You are in effect censoring what you don't want talked about under the guise of it being a threat to your company. It's a bad argument I'm not exactly convinced is true, and being censored for any reason rubs me the wrong way.

Allowing the discussion is promotion as the forums are part of the site.

As an example, it'd be like someone on the Crunchyroll forums linking to a piracy site for shows CR didn't get the license to stream.

No direct linking happened because you've coded the forum for that to be impossible.

You have a sub-forum with the description "Discuss hentai manga, anime, and doujinshi."

Now, since you've removed all unlicensed content, and those who subscribe have their own exclusive forum to talk about Fakku's content, please tell me what purpose the Hentai sub-forum is now?

You took all their hentai away. It was the correct decision as a company. But the one thing that keeps the users that can't subscribe here is the forums. Fakku is a place where said users were brought together by Hentai, and they want to share their experiences and thoughts with each other.

By censoring talk of websites that host scanlations, something FAKKU DID barely over a month ago, you're basically not only telling people that you aren't providing them hentai anymore, but you're also removing their ability to talk about it on a forum for a hentai site.

So, if subscription content is the only possible content for a Fakku user to read, and they have their own forums, they are going to go to their exclusive sub-forum and talk about it there.

So when you look at the standard Hentai sub-forum, where people don't have access to subscription content, what the hell do you think they're going to talk about/

Censoring hentai discussion as you're doing so is wrong, and for all of Jacob's preaching about his despising of censorship, I can only wonder if that extends only to what he personally cares about.

I have been complaining about this for over half a year now and got the same answer. At the end of the day even if it is a public forum it's still Jake's forum and if he sees the mention or linking of "competitors" as a threat to his business, then that's what he's going to do. I think it's nonsensical and just makes them come off as corporate stooges even though there's no little (if any) money lost at all.

Most of the discussions locked or deleted usually have to do with either linking to other sites or asking about where to find other hentai numerous times. Basically if you want to find another site and hate this one so much why not ask on another site altogether or just google it? Less about the comeptition and more about the sensibility of what is posted.

I'm open about going to other H sites and have mentioned them every now and then on here, none of which as been blocked/locked/etc.

The "Hentai" sub-forum in the special interests is for the discussion of various hentai anime, eromanga, and doujinshi titles not found on Fakku. You can still hold discussions of those titles/genres, just not where you pirated them from.

Okay, fine. Say I trust your explanation of it being damaging to your status as a legit hentai publisher, can you give me an honest answer to one simple question?

Was the forum feature of automatically blocking mention of other hentai sites active before Fakku's first publishing deal?

https://www.fakku.net/forums/serious-discussion/alternate-sites-until-fakku-gets-itself-together <== Please note the conversation that prompted me to make this topic. I did not link, and the user that started the topic actually expressed desire to return to Fakku one day.

I honestly can't remember when it was put in place. If Cruz was complaining about it for a little over half a year it might of been put in place during or after the first publication tho.

Well, if it was active before the first publication deal, my accusations still stand.

If it truly was put in place in response to getting the publishing deal, I will understand, but my grievances are still valid.

That's fine and all but again this topic regardless of how kindly they word it has been made countless times even before the legit change. Topics that have previously made such as this are typically locked. And honestly from a rationale standpoint I say if you want to find another site just use google and find it yourself. Not to be rude or anything, it's just I know that's how I found my places to go. I never hardly ask people for things because it's easily to type in "hentai" "English" "free"

also I'd be weary about what sites people link, because I've gotten viruses and malware from a couple. It's why I usually feel safer finding them on my own. And some sites offer things Fakku isn't really keen on like gore/vore, beastality, etc.

Either that or I just ask/talk about it with friends away from the forums.

When I said I was complaining I meant to every instance I wanted to link anything else like EX, which I can't, so it's no use going on about "deleted" post if you can't post about it in the first place.

Also numerous times doesn't mean anything without solid numbers and even then you can't say every single redirect coming from fakku means anything to anyone, including fakku itself. As I said, it's nonsensical to be worried about that kind of stuff.

Also there's a difference between hating something and recognizing something is bad/wrong/at fault and pointing it out. Let's say that if you or anyone in this site doesn't appreciate my criticisms for whatever reason, I'm not going to take it as a slap to the face or hatred at your behalf, right?

This is basically what Jake is doing. I'm not sure what you mean by "sensibility", but there's nothing sensible about outright banning the mentions of certain sites. As I said earlier, Jake or Fakku Staff are free to do what they think is best but it just seems like pointlessly paranoid to actively filter post starting with *.

Come on Cruz, at least try to circumvent the filter in a topic I'm not a part of...I'm right here man....

edit: pls don't try, it was a joke.

...I don't want a fight to happen here. We're in serious discussion, not incoherent babbling Cruz. Be tactful.

The main reason I asked was to see what the rest of the Fakku community was doing. Sure, I could've just googled it but theres no fun in that. Even if I don't use this site anymore, I enjoy the forums and interacting with people and getting their advice and opinions. But from a "rationale standpoint" what your saying is right

Huh? I was fine with what he said and it's a debate no hate here lol.

Linking to websites that host rips of FAKKU content is not allowed, simple as that. And it would be hypocritical of us given our relationship with the artists to allow you to link to scanlation websites now that we've gone legit, so no, don't do it.