LamentedCrow wrote...
So guys are expected to be the ones taking initiative, but if a girl's not interested, it's the guy's fault for bugging her? How is it reasonable to expect men to be confident and forward yet demonize them for it simultaneously? Someone has to take the risk; it's not like girls will do it. Ugh... I wish I were gay. Since gay men are of the same gender, they usually have a mutual understanding and goal.
Is it be man and take initiative, or leave us alone because we're tired of being hit on?
It's been a while since I've come back to this old thread and I've already come to solid realizations (my boyfriends friend has as well and is doing just fine as of now; still single, but much better place).
Anyways, basically I look at it like this. If a girl tells you to fuck off then she probably isn't really all that great of a person or she just want's to have a good night out without any interruptions. I realized after thinking about this that I have done the same to people before. Not because I was trying to be mean, but I wanted to get the message across clearly that I was not interested and you get nervous that a guy won't understand otherwise. Also, drinks can make your mouth a lot looser then under normal circumstances.
Anyways I just tell guys to give it a shot when they can to talk to a girl rather then to just hit on her hard core and if it doesn't work out then there's always next time. If you don't try then you won't get anywhere with people. I've been told to fuck off (as stated a while back in my OP), but I get over it.... was a little drunk when I made this so I was still pissed lol.
Also, regardless of gender preference, even if you were gay it wouldn't be as easy as you think to land a partner. Everyone has a tough time with dating and such so you'll just have to find your own way. When you give up is when you won't find what you want and really no use bitching about how the societal norms for dating are. I know guys bitch about how it's stupid that the guy has to have balls and ask a girl out, but honestly bitching doesn't do you any good and you wasted energy when you could be working on gaining some confidence to talk with people and hopefully become friends with a nice woman (or just people in general).