Ah, the tag we need

Do we need a hypnosis / mind control tag?

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Ok, this has been posted here more than once, but then again, the tag is still non-existent, so...

Why isn’t there a mind control or hypnosis tag?

Seriously, there’re artists that seldom release anything other than such kind of content, and just by searching a bit on Google, one can find various collections with such theme. I’m a subscriber for just a month or so and even I already know at least 26 series and have them marked on a collection I made.

Be aware that those 26 are series, so some of them have more than a single chapter. Hell, there’s one with over 10 chapters... And I only ever added one paid entry there, so imagine what’ll happen if I suddenly decide to go snuff around the paid content besides the subscription, this collection would probably go boom in seconds.

Anyway, for people who wanna help me make a bigger collection, here it is:

https://www.fakku.net/users/chaoticwinter-8359184/collections/hypnosis

If there’re any series that doesn’t have a single chapter listed there, please do tell me and I’ll add it there asap. If Fakku’s not capable of creating a new tag, I’ll just go ahead and create the biggest collection there is with a little help from my friends (that last part did remind me of a very good and old song xD).
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I vote "No," as it should be covered under rape and non-consent.
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I vote "No," as it should be covered under rape and non-consent.

I can't agree to that. If that were the case, the tags would never exist in other websites to begin with. Plus, as far as reality goes, you wouldn't do anything you don't want to under hypnosis, so as long as you're against it, it shouldn't have much of an effect.

As a matter of fact, you need one's consent to be able to hypnotize that person, otherwise it'll be shallow at best and you wouldn't be able to do much to that person.

That's pretty much why every single story that has an app that instantly hypnotizes someone into doing whatever they want is quite impossible IRL, but oh well, I like the genre, and I do want to find it in tags different from "rape" and "non-consent" as those would bring about stuff I kinda hate, like forcing someone into it, blackmailing and violence.
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ChaoticWinter wrote...
I vote "No," as it should be covered under rape and non-consent.
Plus, as far as reality goes, you wouldn't do anything you don't want to under hypnosis, so as long as you're against it, it shouldn't have much of an effect.

As a matter of fact, you need one's consent to be able to hypnotize that person, otherwise it'll be shallow at best and you wouldn't be able to do much to that person.

I disagree. For an example of hypnosis performed WITHOUT the subject's knowledge and consent, watch the 'Buffy the Vampire Slayer' Season 3 episode "Helpless". Buffy did NOT consent to being hypnotized to ignore her Watcher as the latter drugged her to suppress her Slayer strength and speed, without which she could've been raped and murdered. For another example, see the film 'The Manchurian Candidate', in which a brainwashed American soldier is forced to murder other American soldiers and then forget the crimes he committed.

If you want to ID stories in which CONSENSUAL hypnosis occurs, "role-playing" or "cosplay" should work better.
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gammenon Story Junkie
ChaoticWinter wrote...
I vote "No," as it should be covered under rape and non-consent.

I can't agree to that. If that were the case, the tags would never exist in other websites to begin with. Plus, as far as reality goes, you wouldn't do anything you don't want to under hypnosis, so as long as you're against it, it shouldn't have much of an effect.

As a matter of fact, you need one's consent to be able to hypnotize that person, otherwise it'll be shallow at best and you wouldn't be able to do much to that person.

That's pretty much why every single story that has an app that instantly hypnotizes someone into doing whatever they want is quite impossible IRL, but oh well, I like the genre, and I do want to find it in tags different from "rape" and "non-consent" as those would bring about stuff I kinda hate, like forcing someone into it, blackmailing and violence.


There is a possibility that the hypnosis in a story will have nothing to do with mindcontrolling a person to put out. It could also be used as a confidence builder for the MC to be a better lover, or be more outgoing, or something along those lines (kinda wish that type of a tale was more prevalent). But also that tag can be used as a clarifier or more descriptive label for a theme with a broader scope, such as...well, force (like, it's a forced theme but what kind of a forced theme?).
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blur410 Keyboards vs Hentai
Yes, if not simply the fact that more tags are always better. Assuming they are applied properly. So many of these mind control stories don't even have any tags alluring to non-consent at all and may not even be an aggressive story but can be a fun little trick between childhood friends.
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I took a little look on the tags we currently have on Fakku, and was quite surprised actually: There are a few tags that have but a single doujin marked with it!!!! I mean, seriously?! How come we don’t have ones that obviously have more content (check my collection again) but we got nearly useless tags that only point out to a single chapter!?

Edit: Fixed typos.
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In this case, I'd agree with the fact that some sort of hypnosis tag should be added (mainly because it seems to have a sizeable following), but I'd disagree in general with the idea that adding more tags is better necessarily.

This is how bad tagging happens (we really shouldn't expect people to read through and understand 100s of tags to find what they want). In addition, every time new tags are introduced, all previous doujins then need to be updated properly to restore good tagging practices, which is clearly time-consuming. Rather, I think what we need are three things. The first is a tag wiki (to actually describe when a doujin should be given a specific tag), the second is a system that allows a tag list to be created which describes how up to date each tag is (are most doujins that could have that tag tagged with it?), and the third is a tag synonym thingy (to allow for "new" tags to be introduced without actually creating new tags, and to allow people searching for those tags to also search through its synonyms).

For example, I really want to know what's the difference between "No sex", "non-H" and "ecchi".
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YQII FAKKU Translator
linksourcefinder wrote...
I really want to know what's the difference between "No sex", "non-H" and "ecchi".

Hentai - Sexually explicit.
No Sex - Hentai without sex. Here's my go-to example as it's literally in the title.
Non-H - Not hentai; a regular all-ages chapter. Honomi Break! typically falls into this category.
Ecchi - Non-graphic yet suggestive. Many illustration belong here (pin-ups), as do the various series by Hitori.

These tags are not exclusionary and complement each other. For instance, it's redundant to tag a Non-H chapter with No Sex, but it can still be Ecchi.
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luinthoron High Priest of Loli
aim9snake wrote...
I vote "No," as it should be covered under rape and non-consent.


I mean, that is just as silly as saying that we don't need the impregnation tag as the creampie tag would cover it. Sure, it usually works in one direction, but not necessarily the other, and similarly not all forced chapters include mind control, so it would be a necessary tag for someone looking for this specific kind of content.
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luinthoron wrote...
aim9snake wrote...
I vote "No," as it should be covered under rape and non-consent.


I mean, that is just as silly as saying that we don't need the impregnation tag as the creampie tag would cover it. Sure, it usually works in one direction, but not necessarily the other, and similarly not all forced chapters include mind control, so it would be a necessary tag for someone looking for this specific kind of content.

I mean, they already apply the small breast or whatever tag on comics with the loli tag.
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FlamingNova wrote...
luinthoron wrote...
aim9snake wrote...
I vote "No," as it should be covered under rape and non-consent.


I mean, that is just as silly as saying that we don't need the impregnation tag as the creampie tag would cover it. Sure, it usually works in one direction, but not necessarily the other, and similarly not all forced chapters include mind control, so it would be a necessary tag for someone looking for this specific kind of content.

I mean, they already apply the small breast or whatever tag on comics with the loli tag.


By that logic, petite could also have the small breast tag as well… Not sure if they do because I don’t always pay attention to the tags, but regardless, voting No because hypnosis-themed manga already have “Forced” seems plain stupid. There are plenty examples where stuff starts out as hypnosis and ends up with the girl (or girls) being just plain crazy towards the protagonist (like this one), I mean, in my example, he doesn’t even use his hypnosis-like power on all girls and they all still end up head over heels for him, to the point where he has to run away from the sex crazed sluts they become (real fun read btw).
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ChaoticWinter wrote...
FlamingNova wrote...
luinthoron wrote...
aim9snake wrote...
I vote "No," as it should be covered under rape and non-consent.


I mean, that is just as silly as saying that we don't need the impregnation tag as the creampie tag would cover it. Sure, it usually works in one direction, but not necessarily the other, and similarly not all forced chapters include mind control, so it would be a necessary tag for someone looking for this specific kind of content.

I mean, they already apply the small breast or whatever tag on comics with the loli tag.


By that logic, petite could also have the small breast tag as well… Not sure if they do because I don’t always pay attention to the tags, but regardless, voting No because hypnosis-themed manga already have “Forced” seems plain stupid. There are plenty examples where stuff starts out as hypnosis and ends up with the girl (or girls) being just plain crazy towards the protagonist (like this one), I mean, in my example, he doesn’t even use his hypnosis-like power on all girls and they all still end up head over heels for him, to the point where he has to run away from the sex crazed sluts they become (real fun read btw).

Forced includes all kinds of different things though. What if I just want hypnosis specifically? I don't want to see a girl get raped and have it be an emotionally traumatic experience.
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Exactly, there are plenty instances where the girls would even do the deed willingly, the protag just didn't have the balls to ask her out or to actually do it.