Do you believe in ghosts, or aliens, or other paranormal?

Do you believe in these things?

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animeholic1 wrote...
X-FILES.

that sums it up right there.

Yep.

But in all seriousness, I wouldn't be a fool to dismiss things that haven't yet been discovered. Hell, even NASA's discovered frozen microorganisms (bacteria or algae or something like that). As for the paranormal, I don't want to be a closet-minded idiot and say no to their existence... I would like proof though.
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Fiery_penguin_of_doom wrote...
Aliens: I believe we can't be the only life in the universe, Intelligent of otherwise.

Ghosts: I believe "ghosts" are just figments of peoples imagination due entirely to the fear about death. They want to think there is something after we die so people will come up with anything to ease their fears.

Well to be perfectly honest I don't want to become a 'ghost' after I die, as in, stuck here on Earth doing whatever for the rest of eternity.

I should hope that my immortal soul goes to a better place to be honest. (Speaking in religious terms. I understand if you do not believe in such things and think that it's the end and nothing more after that. xD)

@ Ziggy: I'm not trying bulk them together as if they were the same thing. It's just they are all listed under 'paranormal', aliens, UFOs, ghosts, things that cannot really be explained by human means.


I don't fear death personally. But I suppose that's because I believe that there is something after and even if there was nothing after it what is there to fear? Nothingness? You mind goes blank and you no longer exist. All feelings, all emotions, all FEAR of anything is gone. There's nothing. I don't see how that can be frightening.

What I fear is a painful death. I don't want my last moments to be utterly indescribable and horrible.

Sometimes I think that is why some ghosts remain here on this Earth. They suffered some horrible death that they cannot get past and have to re-live it over and over for whatever reason. I should hope that my soul does not get trapped here like that forever.
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ZiggyOtaku wrote...

Do I believe in ghosts, spirits, etc? No.
I don't believe in it, because I don't believe your soul or whatever it is continues on after death. You have one life so make due with it.


im kind of at a crossroads with the whole soul topic. think about it this way: we live and breath as biological organisms sustained by the natural functions of our body and the sustinence we require. but how do we explain the essence that controls the body, the pilot? i think that the soul and the body are two seperate entities and when the body dies the soul remains. what it does? im not at liberty to say. but i do somewhat believe in ghosts and if they do exist then it would be as a soul without a body.

to be honest, if any theory is idealy close to my own it would have to be final fantasy viis lifestream. call me childish, but we require the planet before anything else and it just seems conveniently tied in with our fate. when a body is born the energy or soul is provided by somewhat of a bulk outlet, and when the body dies that energy is returned. a circle of life if you will, and maybe spirits and ghosts are just fractions of that energy that have an attachment to a person, place or thing.

as for aliens i think it would be ignorant to believe were the only prodimnant species in the universe. weither weve been visited or not they are out there.

Pasithea wrote...
All feelings, all emotions, all FEAR of anything is gone. There's nothing. I don't see how that can be frightening.


if you were self aware during this pre life, it certainly wouldnt be freightening... almost comforting, nothings outside your control. but at the same time youd be unfulfilled, an entity that has no capability. i dont know what to say about this...
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Ghosts? Yeah, I believe in them. The Earth have lots of things yet to be discovered and I believe ghosts is one of the phenomenon but since we don't understand it that much its still hard to accept it. There is also a certain theory that say ghosts are actually a playback of intense situation recorded
by the natural environment such as rocks and water.

However I don't consider orbs as ghosts and they are boring....

Aliens.. unless they could find a solar system like ours then there is a probability of finding them. Currently the only thing nearly similar to Earth that have been found are mostly Super Earth type of planets which is inhabitable even though they might have water on them...
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I very much believe in Aliens. The universe is unbelieveably huge. We can't just be the only life forms to exist within it.
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Aliens, sure do. The universe is so huge, and we know that it can host ourself, so unless I created you all and you haven't developed self awareness inside my created world, there should be more lifeforms in a close to infinite universe.

As for ghosts, it depends.
Electrochemical signals leaking from the nervousystem, possibly, but not likely something that could be considered a ghost.
Leaving behind ones memories and personality as stored data, maybe in the future, and that may aswell be considered extending ones life.
Leaving behind ones genes, that's breeding.
Your soul getting rejected eternal peace in happy-happy-land and being forced to wander around scaring evil humans? No.

I try to keep an open mind, but I'd never say I believe in paranormality, because anything that exists would by definition be normal.
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What's going to happen if you're some kind of vengeful spirit and that guy you want to lay your vengeance upon (Awesome.) passes randomly away without your doing? You're pretty much fucked.

kirby wrote...
think about it this way: we live and breath as biological organisms sustained by the natural functions of our body and the sustinence we require. but how do we explain the essence that controls the body, the pilot?


You start out all scientific and stop halfway through. What do 'biological organisms' usually possess? Billions of nerve cells. They're not only responsible for every little of your 'natural functions', but also every emotion you feel and every thought you may think , that's your essence right there.

Which brings me to my explanation why I don't believe in ghosts: My central nervous system probably isn't going to fly around, scare the crap out of people I don't like.

Extraterrestrial life? Probably all about flora, bugs, and bacteria. Chances are fairly low for not having something out there in an (Probably.) permanently expanding universe.

dålif wrote...
I try to keep an open mind, but I'd never say I believe in paranormality, because anything that exists would by definition be normal.


I honestly like your way of thinking there.
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Aliens obviously exist. Like I said in another thread, it would be naive to think that we're the only lifeforms in this universe. Even with the varying conceptions of what an alien looks like, it doesn't change the matter.

I suppose that ghosts exist. Just as there are beings on this physical plane that exist in a physical form, I believe that there are incorporeal beings that inhabit this plane of existence or one very closely tied to ours that have yet to move on. What is a ghost anyway? Its a disembodied spirit bound to this world by some sort of attachment or unresolved issue.

I also believe in psychosomatic anomalies that can be described as experiences involving aliens or ghosts. There are many people who have such a belief in ghosts, aliens, or other paranormal entities and even if there isn't a conscious desire to see them or experience them, the subconscious desire is so strong that they sometimes manifest some type of situation where they experience the paranormal. I guess you can compare it to Haruhi, in a sense. The whole thing ties into my beliefs about the nature of existence, but that's something that would take some time to explain and I don't want to stray too far from the topic at hand.
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All good reasons not to believe in ghosts. Also I think that what people would define as Ghost (which nacho explained so nicely) is basicly the memories and emotions being stored away as recollections of past events in your brain. Means if you die, they are gone.
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dålif wrote...

I try to keep an open mind, but I'd never say I believe in paranormality, because anything that exists would by definition be normal.


anything thats normal would by definition be familiar. what im understanding is that your trying to imply that anything abnormal or untypical doesnt exist, thats rather conceited of you in my opinion. when the species of 5 headed sharks grow feet capable of traveling on land i hope your their first victim.

The Jesus wrote...

Aliens obviously exist. Like I said in another thread, it would be naive to think that we're the only lifeforms in this universe. Even with the varying conceptions of what an alien looks like, it doesn't change the matter.

I suppose that ghosts exist. Just as there are beings on this physical plane that exist in a physical form, I believe that there are incorporeal beings that inhabit this plane of existence or one very closely tied to ours that have yet to move on. What is a ghost anyway? Its a disembodied spirit bound to this world by some sort of attachment or unresolved issue.

I also believe in psychosomatic anomalies that can be described as experiences involving aliens or ghosts. There are many people who have such a belief in ghosts, aliens, or other paranormal entities and even if there isn't a conscious desire to see them or experience them, the subconscious desire is so strong that they sometimes manifest some type of situation where they experience the paranormal. I guess you can compare it to Haruhi, in a sense. The whole thing ties into my beliefs about the nature of existence, but that's something that would take some time to explain and I don't want to stray too far from the topic at hand.


what are you, some kind of perfect answer machine? you even used references to an anime for a flavor of relevance to the site, im quite impressed. rep+, will you be my new dictionary?
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The Jesus wrote...

Aliens obviously exist. Like I said in another thread, it would be naive to think that we're the only lifeforms in this universe. Even with the varying conceptions of what an alien looks like, it doesn't change the matter.

I suppose that ghosts exist. Just as there are beings on this physical plane that exist in a physical form, I believe that there are incorporeal beings that inhabit this plane of existence or one very closely tied to ours that have yet to move on. What is a ghost anyway? Its a disembodied spirit bound to this world by some sort of attachment or unresolved issue.

I also believe in psychosomatic anomalies that can be described as experiences involving aliens or ghosts. There are many people who have such a belief in ghosts, aliens, or other paranormal entities and even if there isn't a conscious desire to see them or experience them, the subconscious desire is so strong that they sometimes manifest some type of situation where they experience the paranormal. I guess you can compare it to Haruhi, in a sense. The whole thing ties into my beliefs about the nature of existence, but that's something that would take some time to explain and I don't want to stray too far from the topic at hand.


what are you, some kind of perfect answer machine? you even used references to an anime for a flavor of relevance to the site, im quite impressed. rep+, will you be my new dictionary?


I think he channels all the worlds greatest minds both living and decease. Everyone from Einstein to Chomsky to Hawking. Hell, I'm sure there are a few "old world" people like Aristotle,etc
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*sigh* ive ben abductd by alien ghosts 3 times

wait... what section am i n?

damnit seriouse discussion

ok umm i belive n both but i aint ever ben abduct or nuthn or haunted
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The Jesus wrote...
Aliens obviously exist. Like I said in another thread, it would be naive to think that we're the only lifeforms in this universe. Even with the varying conceptions of what an alien looks like, it doesn't change the matter.

I suppose that ghosts exist. Just as there are beings on this physical plane that exist in a physical form, I believe that there are incorporeal beings that inhabit this plane of existence or one very closely tied to ours that have yet to move on. What is a ghost anyway? Its a disembodied spirit bound to this world by some sort of attachment or unresolved issue.

I also believe in psychosomatic anomalies that can be described as experiences involving aliens or ghosts. There are many people who have such a belief in ghosts, aliens, or other paranormal entities and even if there isn't a conscious desire to see them or experience them, the subconscious desire is so strong that they sometimes manifest some type of situation where they experience the paranormal. I guess you can compare it to Haruhi, in a sense. The whole thing ties into my beliefs about the nature of existence, but that's something that would take some time to explain and I don't want to stray too far from the topic at hand.


Haaaa...Damnit. Anything I say on this matter will sound crappy when compared to this post.

That does, however, sum up the most unbiased argument from a semi-believer or anyone without enough of an interest to study the matter that I've ever heard. I'm not exactly learned on the matter, but what I do know is more or less in agreement with The Jesus.

@The Jesus: Do you study Occult Theory, or is this an ideology you formed on your own?
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Arizth wrote...
@The Jesus: Do you study Occult Theory, or is this an ideology you formed on your own?

A little of both. I mean I was raised around spiritual believes. My mom isn't overly spiritual, but we've been talking about things like this all my life. Her ex-husband, who was more of a father figure than my actual father, was the most spiritual person I've ever met. Its weird, in some ways he was far beyond where I am right now, but from what I've been told by my mom, who knew the spiritual side of him really well, in some ways I've reached a level that he hadn't in his life. Its a shame that he died because I'd really like to talk to him knowing what I know now. He always told me to be aware of every experience, take from them whatever I can, and grow by adapting that knowledge to my own beliefs. I've studied so many different theories, belief systems, philosophical perspectives etc. in my life and they've all had some influence on me at one time or another, but in the end I craft my own beliefs. Like I've said in other threads, I've come to believe what I believe because of everything that I've learned and experienced in life.
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Aliens: I believe in the possibility of extraterrestrial life, statistically speaking it's impossible for us to be the only lifeforms in the universe.

Ghosts: Yes. They're not the spirits of the dead. They're something else entirely. I can't really put it into words, but as far as I'm concerned their existence has been proven to me, and several friends of mine. I'm not going into details. It's a part of my past I don't want to relive.
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I believe that all things are possible....just not likely.
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I honestly want to believe in ghosts/aliens/other paranormal

BUT, I'm never had any personal encounters so I can't say I really believe in them.
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Rayne wrote...
I honestly want to believe in ghosts/aliens/other paranormal

BUT, I'm never had any personal encounters so I can't say I really believe in them.

You've probably experienced something paranormal. Everyone does, its just that some events are more subtle than others and can be passed off as coincidence or something that "just wasn't there." Sometimes we want to experience the paranormal, but even the smallest amount doubt could lead you to believe that everything is normal.
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I would like something that is blatantly paranormal to happen with me involved. I play dice games and some things which defy, nay spit in the face of, the laws of probability have lead me to be very superstitious with my dice.
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i believe that there are some kinds of lifeforms outside the earth.

as for ghost,i can see them.
i'm being serious here.