Does life has any real reason that makes it worth living?

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Since I cannot find a reason that could make any life to have some sense, I´ve decided to ask this question widely.

The reason for a life (at least for me) is to die, because only in dead we can reach to a logical and useful end. But that end means we are giving life (and this is the only good reason I found) to other beings, and if life has no sense until we die, there is no sense in giving life from death, so, the life we aregiving is useless as our own lives. Maybe there is something else I have not considered, but what could it be? Could it be money (yeah, right, like if money is worth something), could it be family (HA, an stone in your shoe), or it would be love (another HA, love is an illution [Gabriel Garcia Markez])? So, what do you think about this, life has some reason that makes it worth living or not. I just want to understand life.

(No matter what you say, the only good thing we do when we die is to be food for other species)
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While I will tell you quickly no I warn you that going down this thought path will leave you feeling very lost and without a cause in this world. This may lead to thoughts or maybe actions that lean towards suicide. A human trying to understand life is very improbable my friend. Go with this though, Lives are made so why not live it anyway? Also those words have been my sig for about a month now...lolz
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I´m not following this path, I have alredy returned from it. I can´t consider suicide because there is no sense in it, can´t think the things I like are good or bad, or that I really like them, I just try to understand thing that usually no one does, or even try to, and in those thing is this one, finding a common reference point for existance itself that leads to think that you deserve to live. So, what´s the point or motive to think anyone deserves to live?
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Nobody said there needs to be a reason to live. If you have ever read the "Hitchiker's Guide to the Galaxy" series, this is explained.

One point in the book a supercomputer is built to find the meaning of the life, universe, and everything. The answer is 42. Why? Because when you think about it, that is a stupid question to ask. who says that life has meaning, or has to have meaning?

I just say live and enjoy your life. Your purpose in life should just be finding happiness and enjoying life. nobody deserves to live, they are just alive. Depending on whether or not you believe in a god, there isn't a specific purpose for which sentient beings live. They live because they can.
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bowserman wrote...
I´m not following this path, I have already returned from it. I can´t consider suicide because there is no sense in it, can´t think the things I like are good or bad, or that I really like them, I just try to understand thing that usually no one does, or even try to, and in those thing is this one, finding a common reference point for existence itself that leads to think that you deserve to live. So, what´s the point or motive to think anyone deserves to live?


Whether or not you like something has nothing to do with whether life has a reason, that just sounds like personal indecision. If somebody can decide whether they like something or not do they deserve to live more than you? Those two things seem completely unrelated and you sound more depressed than anything. Also if you're questioning whether or not life has worth how can you also say suicide makes no sense, that seems a bit hypocritical to me. Thousands of people have thought on this topic and written on it too so there are actually quite a few. In the end though without the revealed existence of a god there is no meaning to life and no use living. Since you say you have returned from this path what are your thoughts?
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I do not believe there is any purpose to it. Therefore, just do whatever you feel like. If you want to waste it being a failure, do so. If you want to waste it by dying successful, do so. Although being successful and/or wealthy, you'll live longer and be able to enjoy the enjoyable parts more. You'll also be able to spend a good portion of your life enjoying yourself after you retire.

Although the real reason that makes it worth living would be anime, video games, and junk food.
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We will honestly never know until the day we die, thats why life is such a mystery.
So just accept it for what it is, we are given a chance in this world for something, even if we dont know exactly what that something is.
Cause if we went through life knowing what we was alive for then all the excitement would be nothing to us.
Its funny cause i learned that from a cartoon i watched when i was little.
I'll post it on here when i find it.
But just think we are alive for a reason! Successful or not we have molded our future and someone elses future, even tho you may not see it.
You just gotta think of it like this, you are sitting on your front pouch eating an apple and you throw the apple into the yard, well after awhile that apple will rot and a seed will fall to the ground, that seed grow into a beautiful apple tree, it can be a home to some birds, or feed an animal that stops by, or it could feed the countless humans in this world from starving, and they get to live another day.
Even tho that might be a little off track is a good example i think.
Spoiler:

This is the episode i saw when i was little.
Its pretty much about two girls. One see all that is good in life and it pretty much steals all the excitement in her life.
And as for the other one she see only the bad things in life and it pretty much makes her life that much more interesting.
I was a good life lesson for me i think! :/
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Daggerrise wrote...
Although the real reason that makes it worth living would be anime, video games, junk food and sex.


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[color=#2e1a6b]Life is worth living when we are pursuing that which we value. These values are subjective, as they vary from person to person. Examples of values include God, Knowledge, Entertainment, Helping people, Fame, or just general happiness.

yummines wrote...
Nobody said there needs to be a reason to live. If you have ever read the "Hitchiker's Guide to the Galaxy" series, this is explained.

One point in the book a supercomputer is built to find the meaning of the life, universe, and everything. The answer is 42.


[color=#2e1a6b]Is this what inspired that genius girl to have 42 as her username?
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I agree with lelouch 42 Life is worth living if you have something to strive for etc. Then you become happy and can effect someone directly or indirectly. Anyways In the grand scheme of things Human or most of sentient exstience is worthless ala H.P Lovecrafts books,they explain that pretty will so yeah enjoy life in in death if there is another life prey that you dont meet an eldirchin abomination.
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OP, do you have dreams or goals? Something that you have always wanted to do? Somewhere you always had wanted to go to?

Personally, I think that working towards a goal or something which you have always wanted to do is a good enough reason to live.

Don't think too hard in the grand scale of things. There's no reason for life, other than to live it and die. Write down a list of what you like and want to do, those will be your reasons to why life is worth living.
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I've been where you've been. I've came close to suicide but I fell in love, for 6 years I've been with her, but recently she decided she wants to chase after her past... I went back to my dark place, I was depressed again, in so much pain, so desperate for it all to end. but while I was with her, I had learned many things. Some from being with her and some on my own that I could not do in my pre pessimistic state. I've learned to take things in multiple perspectives.

Something i always enjoyed as a kid but lost touch of as a teenager, was astronomy. The stars and galaxies beyond our own. When you study them enough, learn how the universe works, you realize, how truly lucky humans are to be able to come as far as we did. It is nothing short of miraculous how many fortunate conditions we are given compared to the truly chaotic and terrifying environment of the universe. How small the odds are for us to be able to come as far as we did yet we did. Even being as lucky as we are to have come into existence, we are incredibly and utterly insignificant to the true majesty, wonder, mystery, and truth of the universe, we are truly and utterly powerless in the face of it.

(Well to me) to find significance in life, to find meaning, logic, reason, value, ect. Is equivalent to doing the same for single cell organisms. All of these are simply subjective. Only us as individuals can decide its worth, outside that nothing else can, does, or will do it. Our worth, as individuals and as humans, is equal to plankton (though tragically I see humans slightly less for our self destructive nature, but I do understand the cause and effects that lead to this, and can sympathize to an extent the actions brought about). Plankton are very interesting focus of studying and observing as well, as insignificant as there life and death are, with as little as they are able to comprehend, they struggle on, for humans sadly, our fault is our self awareness, but it is also our greatest value it is yet a prime example of a double edge sword.

In comparing myself to how small I am compared to the universe and how fortunate I am to come so far from single cell, in my mother, to be a being capable of self awareness. I feel at many times I can lose myself to insignificance of my existence. this is where I stop, I realize that going any further would only create pointless loops that would hurt me more than help me. I think about how it felt to be happy, and compare it to how I feel now. I realize that, even though it may have been only me, who was happy, I enjoyed it so much more than this pain I have now, and though it may hurt more to continue to seek happiness similar again, its worth it if I can find something better than what I once had, I can seek love again for this reason. If I become lost, I look up at the sky, I pick up a book, seek a interactive community, or I search for educational channels on youtube, and teach myself that what I know and understand of the world in front of me, is nothing, truly small compared to what I don't know, especially to the universe. I realize that being capable of acknowledging it is truly fortunate and that if there is any meaning in my life, that its the capability of learning and understanding all of this.

For me, I've come to the point of "seeking meaning in my life, from myself or others" is near pointless. That me being capable of thinking about it is more than enough for me. This is all something I came to by myself though. So for you let me ask. If we humans, are truly so worthless, then how can we possibly be capable of evaluating ourselves? How could we find value, of our opinions, in our insignificance? How can we possibly find vindication in our actions to throw away what we already have gotten through so much work, struggle, and fortune (being born takes true luck)? How can we possibly decide, as humans, on our own, what standards are valuable and insignificant, and be capable of holding it in comparison against ourselves and others? With the only 2 true constants of change being creation and destruction how can we decide that ours, by existing, is any bit more depraved than the constant that has existed in the universe for as long as we can find?

I find solace in knowledge, in being capable of thinking and learning, I find happiness in doing so, doing something that only I as human am capable of accomplishing. Sorry it was long winded, I ended up typing this out longer than I had planed, now I'm half asleep and too tired to make sure everything is right or that I worded myself the way I specifically intended for it to sound, but I would rather you get this sooner than later, wondering in the dark is painful alone.
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bakapink wrote...
I've been where you've been. I've came close to suicide but I fell in love, for 6 years I've been with her, but recently she decided she wants to chase after her past... I went back to my dark place, I was depressed again, in so much pain, so desperate for it all to end. but while I was with her, I had learned many things. Some from being with her and some on my own that I could not do in my pre pessimistic state. I've learned to take things in multiple perspectives.

Something i always enjoyed as a kid but lost touch of as a teenager, was astronomy. The stars and galaxies beyond our own. When you study them enough, learn how the universe works, you realize, how truly lucky humans are to be able to come as far as we did. It is nothing short of miraculous how many fortunate conditions we are given compared to the truly chaotic and terrifying environment of the universe. How small the odds are for us to be able to come as far as we did yet we did. Even being as lucky as we are to have come into existence, we are incredibly and utterly insignificant to the true majesty, wonder, mystery, and truth of the universe, we are truly and utterly powerless in the face of it.

(Well to me) to find significance in life, to find meaning, logic, reason, value, ect. Is equivalent to doing the same for single cell organisms. All of these are simply subjective. Only us as individuals can decide its worth, outside that nothing else can, does, or will do it. Our worth, as individuals and as humans, is equal to plankton (though tragically I see humans slightly less for our self destructive nature, but I do understand the cause and effects that lead to this, and can sympathize to an extent the actions brought about). Plankton are very interesting focus of studying and observing as well, as insignificant as there life and death are, with as little as they are able to comprehend, they struggle on, for humans sadly, our fault is our self awareness, but it is also our greatest value it is yet a prime example of a double edge sword.

In comparing myself to how small I am compared to the universe and how fortunate I am to come so far from single cell, in my mother, to be a being capable of self awareness. I feel at many times I can lose myself to insignificance of my existence. this is where I stop, I realize that going any further would only create pointless loops that would hurt me more than help me. I think about how it felt to be happy, and compare it to how I feel now. I realize that, even though it may have been only me, who was happy, I enjoyed it so much more than this pain I have now, and though it may hurt more to continue to seek happiness similar again, its worth it if I can find something better than what I once had, I can seek love again for this reason. If I become lost, I look up at the sky, I pick up a book, seek a interactive community, or I search for educational channels on youtube, and teach myself that what I know and understand of the world in front of me, is nothing, truly small compared to what I don't know, especially to the universe. I realize that being capable of acknowledging it is truly fortunate and that if there is any meaning in my life, that its the capability of learning and understanding all of this.

For me, I've come to the point of "seeking meaning in my life, from myself or others" is near pointless. That me being capable of thinking about it is more than enough for me. This is all something I came to by myself though. So for you let me ask. If we humans, are truly so worthless, then how can we possibly be capable of evaluating ourselves? How could we find value, of our opinions, in our insignificance? How can we possibly find vindication in our actions to throw away what we already have gotten through so much work, struggle, and fortune (being born takes true luck)? How can we possibly decide, as humans, on our own, what standards are valuable and insignificant, and be capable of holding it in comparison against ourselves and others? With the only 2 true constants of change being creation and destruction how can we decide that ours, by existing, is any bit more depraved than the constant that has existed in the universe for as long as we can find?

I find solace in knowledge, in being capable of thinking and learning, I find happiness in doing so, doing something that only I as human am capable of accomplishing. Sorry it was long winded, I ended up typing this out longer than I had planed, now I'm half asleep and too tired to make sure everything is right or that I worded myself the way I specifically intended for it to sound, but I would rather you get this sooner than later, wondering in the dark is painful alone.


This sounds like something i would type if i have time. But yes, i agree with all the points made in this post. Human life is insignificant, yet amazing at the same time. However, any meaning is purely a human concept, and thus, this whole meaning of life thing is a human concept as well.
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[quote="I_love_flat_chests"]OP, do you have dreams or goals? Something that you have always wanted to do? Somewhere you always had wanted to go to?[quote]

yes, but I find no sense in the things I like, or dislike, can´t find a good reason that motivats me to do something, even if that is what I want to do.
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bowserman wrote...
I_love_flat_chests wrote...
OP, do you have dreams or goals? Something that you have always wanted to do? Somewhere you always had wanted to go to?


yes, but I find no sense in the things I like, or dislike, can´t find a good reason that motivats me to do something, even if that is what I want to do.


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I have asked that myself plenty of times and I fell in the most depressed state I wouldn't wanna anyone to land in.

Then I just told myself:
" I shall define life with my own hands and just get jiggy with it."

We all want important answers in our lives but the thing is, no one needs to actually question it ... sometimes it is just better to just live it up, go on adventures, meet some new people.

You don't need to look for the answers, nor do you need to question about it ... sometimes random acts can lead to beautiful things.

Or like My Mom always told me :
" You just need a woman in your life, then you will love life."

Unfortunately I have a hard time doing that but she does have a point, sometimes you gotta look hard within yourself and see what the problem is.
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...What's a "real" reason?

I don't understand that attempt at a distinction.

the original poster says that death is the only logical and useful end a person has...but...to what? What use is our death? What is illogical about our life? I don't understand any of these connotations that come with such a statement and question.

From my perspective, life, in the now, is worth living, because in the now, you're living, for a reason. You bothered to type up the beginning to this topic. Why? what was our reason for it? Because you wanted to share an idea? Why is that not a sufficient reason to do anything? "Because you want to" seems to me to be a perfectly valid reason to continue living.

The now is relevant to the now...because it's happenning now. So from my perspective, any reason anyone gives for living now...works. The end goal to a life that ends at death is...not death...it's life. We're here, this is it, this is our last chance to do something. We've reached the finish line of being born and now it's celebration time until it doesn't matter anymore.

There's a quote. I can't remember who it's from./ But it's a good one.

"I won't refuse to dance, simply because I know the music will end."
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No one gives you your reason to live. It is you who ultimately decides your purpose. Not your parents, friends, teachers, God, etc.
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I personally think there is no real reason that makes life worth living. It's really something that you create for yourself. That in itself to me feels pointless. I wish the reason for living was natural, not something created by you for you. In the end, it baffles me how everyone around me can continue to exist without deeply thinking about a topic like this and just go with the flow as if I'm the one unusual for even questioning existence. I can tell you that I AM feeling rather suicidal and that there is nothing left to do when all has been done already.
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bowserman wrote...
Since I cannot find a reason that could make any life to have some sense, I´ve decided to ask this question widely.

The reason for a life (at least for me) is to die, because only in dead we can reach to a logical and useful end. But that end means we are giving life (and this is the only good reason I found) to other beings, and if life has no sense until we die, there is no sense in giving life from death, so, the life we aregiving is useless as our own lives. Maybe there is something else I have not considered, but what could it be? Could it be money (yeah, right, like if money is worth something), could it be family (HA, an stone in your shoe), or it would be love (another HA, love is an illution [Gabriel Garcia Markez])? So, what do you think about this, life has some reason that makes it worth living or not. I just want to understand life.

(No matter what you say, the only good thing we do when we die is to be food for other species)




Friend, it may not be too late.
I am frowning. But I do not pity you, for pity is only for the weak. You are not weak. You are strong. Strong for you embrace sadness and weakness. That, is the core of a man. As of now your mind and body may be lacking due to the inescapable barrier that is youth; but know this- your heart is already complete.

It may not be too late.
A man's journey is not a measly walking trip. It is, not just a simple straight road that leads to death. Death is witty. Death is playful. Death does not allow an easy route.
A man's journey is treacherous. It is unforgiving. It denies you of every drop of joy you may have in your heart; and in that state you wander clueless in this forsaken earth. This is how you are right now. This is your journey. This, is you.

It may not be too late.
You say you don't have a reason to live anymore. You say your life is blank. You say your existence is meaningless. That is not true.
You are simply crestfallen. You must realize this. A man must overcome these walls. A man would give a flying fuck about those god-damned walls and leap over it. Soar over it. Leave it behind, never to turn around ever again.

It may not be too late.
Your body may be lacking but your heart is complete. Do not give a damn what has happened so far. Leave the past behind and drive head first to the future. If death doesn't let you, if he throws more walls to your face, then pierce them. Drill through them. Your drill will pierce anything imaginable. Your drill will pierce the heavens itself.
When the time comes that you reach the end; when you stand in front of death face to face; when death finally comes for you- laugh. laugh at death's face. laugh for your life had meaning. You have gone all the way to meet death rather than waiting for him to come. You have lived.

It is not too late.
Do the impossible.
See the invisible.
row row, fight the powa.
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