Hentai vs Reality

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nateriver10 wrote...
I know but my take on it was essentially taking a person you are attracted to, for whatever physical reasons, and then changing it. I talked about changing the hair because it was your analogy.


Fair enough but I think it's still a similar scenario. Giving a girl monster parts may be a big change to you, but to others, it may not seem so major. It's only a problem if you think it's a problem.

nateriver10 wrote...
I won't defend morality in Ancient Greek myths because, although they are really interesting, they aren't the greatest examples of it. (Athena was Poseidon's girlfriend? If that's true, I had no idea but I don't think so since Athena is Zeus' daughter and Zeus is Poseidon's brother. So... Anyway)

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But if you like Medusa, go ahead. But if you're not careful she can get you hard just in the foreplay. And that's not a euphemism either.


Yeah, my bad, I was wrong. I checked the wiki page, and Athena got mad because it happened in her temple. So then she was like "How dare you allow a god to forcibly have sex with you in my temple" and turned her into a gorgon. But Perseus is still a cunt about it. And I'd still fuck Medusa.

And I can always wear a blindfold. I hear not being able to see heightens sensitivity as well. And I can't get any worse at sex.

nateriver10 wrote...
If you agree with me on the forbidden love thing, we have nothing else to discuss. I for one can't fathom this idea of real life monster girls but I also don't claim to understand or enjoy the fetish to being with. I think feminine feet are strong indicators of beauty and sensuality (I would say legs too but that's already half the woman). Which is why oh so many logos for pornsites and strip clubs and erotic novels feature legs, feet and quite often, heels. So, I can't begin to imagine a girl with a rattlesnake tail instead of feet lol


So what about more minor monstrous elements? Would you be fine with a girl with horns, or fangs?
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VGuy wrote...
5) Body switching: only in hentai folks. Transgender-ism is a conplicated matter and definitely not fap-material.


I forgot about this one and magic/science sex change.

Like most folks around here, I assume, I am definitely interested in the grass on the other side.

Body Switching, in real life would depend on the person, and their consent, for me. If it is my partner at the time, than I wouldn't think I'd have a problem, spice up our relationship by literally role playing each other.

(Scientific/Magical) Sex Change, what's there to really object too, if it works by anime/hentai rules, especially if it's reversible.

nateriver10 wrote...
bakapink wrote...
Futanari, doesn't exist in rl, but I have seen to Asian porno's with fake futanari... ya... they didn't sell me on the idea, for one of them I just couldn't stop laughing at it all... In my defense, they were being purposely stupid.


I've commented this somewhere around here (can't remember where) but I have seen a couple of transexuals who really do sell the idea of futanari. Not trying to be mean but most male to female transexuals have some clear male characteristics but not all of them... Some are ridiculously feminine. In hentai, the crazy ratio of Aphrodite-like bodies with Ares-like penises is a bit off but still...


I don't regard futanari as the same as transexual. Futanari, within my definition, is strictly, "a person in possession of both (working) male and female sexual organs. Capable of impregnating and becoming pregnant." To which, doesn't exist (as far as I know). Hermaphrodites are the closes thing to this definition, but are often completely sterile.

If futanari was possible, I wouldn't have a single problem with. I may find my attraction to it do to it being a fringe (in hentai), but if it was common (in real life), I'm not sure if it would be anymore special than just straight female, for me. In that way, they don't quite translate the same both ways. But futanari wouldn't be a minus for me, but I can't say it's a plus.

As for transsexual (which is another I forgot), I am attracted to anything with the female form. If a transsexual can sell my ideal figures (pretty wide strike range, I think), I'd be more than inclined to pursue. I've seen some who were crazy attractive (to me)... Invoked in me to question my sexual orientation. And I can probably date this back to watching the Maury Show as a kid. Just like futanari, I don't think I am any more attracted to transsexuals due to them being. (I would say, I am no more attracted too, as I would be with a biological woman that I found attractive.)

As for monster girls, cat girls only possesses ears and a tail, as far as anime/hentai is concerned, same for the dog girls. But a Lamina or Mermaid in real life, I have to wonder if the uncanny valley would get over it so easily. ~Randomly imagining the pressure of pleasuring a centaur~
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Silence of the Yanderes wrote...
Fair enough but I think it's still a similar scenario. Giving a girl monster parts may be a big change to you, but to others, it may not seem so major. It's only a problem if you think it's a problem.


True. Can't touch that one any further.

Silence of the Yanderes wrote...
So what about more minor monstrous elements? Would you be fine with a girl with horns, or fangs?


I don't think so... I mean, if the girl is well drawn, I don't mind it in hentai. And I've had my crush on Tayuya (from Naruto) like everyone else. But for me, in (good) hentai, those very slight monster traits are a «in spite of» rather than a «because of».

bakapink wrote...
I don't regard futanari as the same as transexual. Futanari, within my definition, is strictly, "a person in possession of both (working) male and female sexual organs. Capable of impregnating and becoming pregnant." To which, doesn't exist (as far as I know). Hermaphrodites are the closes thing to this definition, but are often completely sterile.


That's not the futanari I know... But again, since I'm an hentai wuss, I'll take your word for it. The only futanari I've seen involves 100% feminine women with massive dicks which can be seen in real life. Both organs and pregnancy, I have no idea.
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nateriver10 wrote...
That's not the futanari I know... But again, since I'm an hentai wuss, I'll take your word for it. The only futanari I've seen involves 100% feminine women with massive dicks which can be seen in real life. Both organs and pregnancy, I have no idea.


Hentai rarely tackles the subject of pregnancy, and futanari is a fringe subject matter. In most cases where pregnancy is possible, it's a nonoccurrence. It exist, just doesn't interest the writer enough to put it in and leaves it up to the audience to imagine it. (Most writers who depict pregnancy do so as more of a symbol of "marking" as opposed to child rearing and new intimacy level, so pregnancy it's often found in ntr/rape.) In most cases, futanari is regarded the same way, not expressed unless the author has a particular interest in it.

Futanari is also a very ambiguous subject. As opposed to being "born as" it has become more common for women (sometimes men) to be made into one through magic (futanari demons), science (mad scientist), or virus. Virus would be where, a woman being ejaculated into by a futanari turns her into a futanari herself.

Pregnancy is never taken off the table most all hentai (in a small few, some characters express that they are sterile), and in a few cases pregnancy is included into futanari content. Futanari really doesn't try to make any basis in reality.
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I really wish futanari was really cause then i could be like Hannah Montana and get the best of both worlds lol.
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blinkgirl211 wrote...
I really wish futanari was really cause then i could be like Hannah Montana and get the best of both worlds lol.


or just take a trip to thailand ~

*Edit - after reading previous posts about futanari vs "transexuals" depends on whatever applies

But thailand would be a good alternative

+ the type of persons that are described as "futanari" do exist irl, it's just harder to find because (insert genetic/developmental/scientific explanation)
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Most of the stuff that ends up in the vanilla area is considered ok, the more "ntr" like stuff isn't likely to transfer well to reality. Some of the more controversial ones. wellll..

TLDR: If you know it's wrong, odds are you won't do it IRL, that's why you read the kind of hentai.

Netorare: fullstop, no. nobody wants this irl. The idea behind it is to literally feel like something got stolen from you. Nobody in a serious relationship wants that. A decent example of people disliking ideas of netorare, even if it's not their wife/ significant other is any Oh! My Goddess hentai. The comments section on Crystal's work is filled with almost nothing but people loathing it, not because we want Belldandy (ok, I bet some/most do [I know I do], but bear with me) but because it's so out of character and against what we expect from someone in such a vanilla relationship it gets venomous responses. It's made to make you feel bad, thus you don't want it.

Mind break: Mental degradation of a person to the point of mindlessness either takes months to years of work (brainwashing by any other name is still brainwashing), if you're lucky. Or copious amounts of drugs that nobody short of a deep black market seller would even have/ be willing to give you. and then you have to get them administered which probably involves kidnapping to begin with. No matter how you look at it, this is still pretty illegal and damn near impossible to pull off without SEVERE reprimand by anyone who found out. Stuff like "The Dark Pingpong Club" where someone is missing for DAYS on end wouldn't work if you're stupid enough to hide them somewhere remotely public (on school grounds especially). The entire notion of isolation is necessary too, because if the person isn't kept in that mindset, they will have willpower and be able to resist. If someone goes missing for days on end with no word, police will get involved. And if you're found with a drugged up person in your apartment/ house, you are going to be in legal hell unless you have ridiculously powerful friends in high places.
Not to mention most people by default can't be bribed into agreeing to it. 99% of the time if someone proposed to you "let's kidnap, drug up and rape that hot chick until she's a cum dump" people would call the cops on you or beat you. I've been to bars and seen a guy get caught by one of those anti-rape drug straws. He was lucky he had teeth and unbroken bones when he got thrown out because the bouncers didn't stop people from beating him as he tried to leave (he was limping out and missing at least 6 teeth that were found at the door).

Gore: You can't do it irl. that's called murder.

Vore: also impossible irl, not worth discussing. if you like being licked all over, that's fine and dandy if your partner likes it too.

Scat: you can kiiinda get away with this one. Urine is in fact, completely sterile so peeing in/on someone won't do anything bad per se...but actual feces? nope. ignoring that it's literally all the things your body didn't want/use from your food, it has tons of bacteria inside it the breaks down stuff. Which, your body is ok with, but someone else's bacteria sends your system into "OMG WTF IS THIS SHIT GET RID OF IT" mode.

Chikan: Again, pretty much illegal and may as well just be a specific type of exhibitionism. In Japan, it's a serious problem, so much so that women have filed petitions to get gender segregated cars.

Reverse rape: still rape, still illegal.

Consensual rape: you can't use those words like that, either you agree, or don't.

Incest: most of the time you don't want to bang your relatives. and no matter how much people tell you "relative X is hot" you look at them and go "ehhh...related" and you can't get turned on. The notion of two people not having grown up together and suddenly being siblings and finding each other attractive, that makes sense and I can't see many people having problems with it because they are only related by law, not blood. Things like KissXSis don't really make sense because they have the whole "grew up with this person" thing going, and interest dulls over time.

Exhibitionism: In hentai, you go out naked, nobody does anything and you fuck who you wanted. In reality, You get photos taken, you end up on the internet, and nobody censors your face. You will be lucky if you're not outed by your friends and family as a pervert if you get caught. as Bakapink said, doing things at night is just asking for pneumonia, and broad daylight is asking to become a social outcast.

Humiliation: Kinda depends on the person, if you're sadistic enough, you'll get off on others being humiliated, usually runs hand in hand with exhibitionism though. Blackmail scenarios are not as common. Hentai likes to show "I have embarrassing photo of you so do as I say" scenes. This works fine in hentai, and hell, maybe if your Public Image is really that important. But in real life, and you get caught with anything considered that kind of picture, the photographer/ picture holder is in a ton of trouble.

Shota/loli: no. children are not sexy. there is a difference between looking young, and looking like a child. A flat chested adult does not look like a flat chested teenager or a child and vice versa.

Pain induction: again, takes a special mindset. otherwise, getting your privates or any other body part whipped/hit until it bleeds will not turn you on.

Anal: Unless you get enema's regularly, you probably don't go showing people your asshole, let alone letting them lick inside it. The idea you can fuck someone's ass, then have them lick you clean is not only unrealistic, but outright unsanitary. same with anal to vaginal sex. Great way to get a nasty infection in/ on someplace.

Now certain ones are situational, but some of the ones filled by job positions are almost all opinion based. Hentai does tend to gloss over stuff though.

Housewife: Personally, I like older women, but that's because my ex's have all been younger girls (my age when I was dating them and I just hit 23). But older women are usually calmer, less jealous and clingy. Also, most guys who have a smoking hot wife DON'T just ignore her at home. Also, if you're in a neighborhood filled with housewives, odds are you'll be spotted visiting one by another.

Nurses: Speaking as someone who is related to a few nurses, and friends with student nurses and doctors. No, the nurse will not bang you. You showing them your penis will not excite them, you're in the hospital, behave while your there or you may not get the sufficient dose of pain killer for a few days. Likewise, a woman showing a male nurse her vagina won't work either. Most hospitals have security systems, and if you get caught touching someone inappropriately, your ass is fucked. At (unrealistically) best, you'll get moved to a new hospital, you say NOTHING about your transfer to anyone and don't dare try it again. Worst, you're not getting hired again anytime soon because you're a rapist as far as everyone else is concerned.

Maid: It's power fantasy. you control them, they don't resist. Pretty simple, you probably don't like the maid outfit for any other reason.

Cosplay: fantasy realization, also, make sure the person wearing the outfit is ok with you possibly getting jizz on it.

Anything ending with "Dere": With the possible exception of Kuudere, most people wouldn't date these kinds of folk. Tsundere will irritate you because of their flipflopping nature, Yandere is flat fuck terrifying and you usually get them legally restrained (or physically) as soon as you realize what they are. Kuudere being the exception because these are the ones who eventually open up JUST to you and otherwise aren't negative towards you. Though them being impartial will eventually get old and you may tell them to either shape up or end the relationship.
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^ pretty much nailed it.

I will say though that some people like roleplay that borders on ntr and engage in some other hard core fetishes. And hey, if they practice what they do safely and with caution, who am I to judge?
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artcellrox The Grey Knight :y
Okay, I'm chiming in my thoughts for this, since this is a no-hostile zone (but if anyone wants to fight me, just know that it's my own fetish and opinion on the matter).

I'm open to practically most fetishes, really. NTR, vanilla, bondage, group sex, futanari, oral, anal, all kinds of body sizes, yaoi and yuri. This applies to both 2D and real life for me (that's right, it gets me going in real life as much as hentai and porn).

The only fetishes that I don't have are the ones that I have absolutely no interest in (and this goes for 2D and 3D) are:

  • Incest: It doesn't do anything for me in hentai (I read incest stories like any regular manga), and it's nothing I look extensively for. In real life, it's a no go, even though I've read some hot stories from 4chan.


  • Some rape scenes: I'm into rape-play everywhere. However, actual rape scenes (when portrayed relatively accurately like in Take On Me volume 2) are not a turn on for me. As much as I love dominating, I turn tail if there's no consent given.


If there's one thing which I would say doesn't apply to both worlds would be gangrape. Artists like Erect Touch get me really going with gangrape every time, and the Kink network can dish out some good porn of gangrape too, but a real one is something I'd never partake in.

I'm weird like that, even by typical standards here.
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Silence of the Yanderes wrote...



So what about more minor monstrous elements? Would you be fine with a girl with horns, or fangs?


i needa add a thing, because i, personally, would freaking love that. the minor traits, anyways. fangs, tiny horns, or cat ears that are usually hidden by a hat???
GIMME
not because they are an animal, or another creature, but i'd have a sort of appreciation for that sense of "you are exciting and new and exotic and really cute too oh good lord"
imma use a lame metaphor here; its kind of like being attracted to redheads, they are pretty rare and this little factor is a turn on. or liking freckles, only if freckles werent a thing?????
in a world with girls and boys who hide cat ears and tiny horns and fangs
i would SO have a thing for that.
its an if- then situation
so irl it would be cosplay???
once again, down with that. but more so, because damn there are some seriously good lookin cosplayers out there
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Cutiecumyum wrote...
i needa add a thing, because i, personally, would freaking love that. the minor traits, anyways. fangs, tiny horns, or cat ears that are usually hidden by a hat???
GIMME
not because they are an animal, or another creature, but i'd have a sort of appreciation for that sense of "you are exciting and new and exotic and really cute too oh good lord"
imma use a lame metaphor here; its kind of like being attracted to redheads, they are pretty rare and this little factor is a turn on. or liking freckles, only if freckles werent a thing?????
in a world with girls and boys who hide cat ears and tiny horns and fangs
i would SO have a thing for that.
its an if- then situation
so irl it would be cosplay???
once again, down with that. but more so, because damn there are some seriously good lookin cosplayers out there


I totally understand where you're coming from, exotic features make someone far more interesting. And being more interested in your partner is generally a good thing for a relationship.

We aren't talking about our current irl. We're talking about what if rl was the hentai universe. Real cat ears, real horns, real fangs. I mean, fangs might not be great if they have a biting fetish but apart from that, I can't think of any downsides.
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my type is blonde hair:
http://i0.wp.com/www.afachan.asia/wp-content/uploads/2013/10/yamai_kaguya_yamai_yuzuru.jpg (right one) in my height and not all open or too close, one that takes some time to know and have actually like, been through certain things in life, and a serious one that knows to laugh but be serious when needed, nice legs with normal sized boobs


with the same expression as the right one
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I think the beauty of a lot of hentai and porn situations is the fact that they aren't realistic. I get turned on because it's a fantasy, in real life I doubt they'd do much for me.

In real life I'm definitely sappy and prefer emotionally attached sex with my spouse. I know for certain he'd be uncomfortable with a number of the scenarios in hentai, and there would be a few that I wouldn't be comfortable with, in real-life sex is best for me when it's staying within my comfort zone. I'm open to new things but I prefer to discuss them before trying them just to make sure me and him are on the same page.

But yeah, I love the over the top hentai, I love schlicking to it, but I wouldn't ever want to do most of it in real life.
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Hentai vs Reality, im gonna asnwer this as: Would i personally be ok with this in a real life setting?

Anal: Dont see any problems with this, would be more than happy to try it out ;).

Ashikoki (Footjob): Never tried this one, i guess it could be a turn on, dont know yet.

Cheating/NTR: I personally would not wanna get cheated, cheat others and neither would i wanna be used to cheat with, if i knew about it, and i dont think anybody else would in reality enjoy these either. Yes, alot of people do cheat others, but i think there are alot of other factors involved there, besides that some people maybe do get turned on from knowing that they are cheating their partner.

Femdom: My personal favorite tag here and i think i would totally enjoy it in real life.

Forced/Rape: This one is big no no! Not only it is illegal, i doubt anybody seriesly would like to be forced to have sex with a random person. Some people do fantasie about "rape" scenarios and/or actually do them in real life, i think these two are, well two different things. Doing "rape" scenarios with your partner is not the same as a random person forcing you to have sex with them in a public place and 99,99% of the time against your will.

Chikan: This borderlines little with forced/rape. Doubt this is legal anywhere if you get caught and again, there is a big difference between doing this with your partner and some random person doing it to you. I guess the difference here is that once the other one starts, you go along without resisting.

Futanari: Dont see anything wrong with this, some of the mangas are really good and i can easily fantasie about them in a real life setting.

Group: This one i actually have tried and it was pretty neat and fun experience. As long as everybody is ok with what they are doing, then i dont see nothing wrong with this one. Would be more than willing to try it again.

Humiliation: Said on the FAKKU website: "put in a state of disgrace or loss of self-respect." Doesnt sound something i would enjoy, but i guess this could happen with one of my femdom scenarios. As long as it doesnt go overboard or do any real or permanent harm to anybody, im ok with it.

Incest: Considered a taboo globally and probably illegal too. My own view is that if siblings (brother & sister) wanna have sex, they do it for the sexual pleasure, they use contraception, they both know what they are doing, then honestly i dont see the harm here. Even if they became lovers later, as long as they use contraception, i dont see the harm.
In the case of mother/son and father/daughter i have a little different oppinion. I think depending on the age of the son/daughter, the mother/father has an emotional advantage to his/her child in real life. Wheter i would agree with this or not, would almost entirely depend on the age/maturity of the child.

Monster girl: If we are talking about cosplaying, then sure, why not. What ever floats your boat (no offence meant to anybody, cosplays are hot). If we are talking about a real life "monster girl," like a mermaid for example, then yeah i could see it happen.

Shibari: Never tried this with anybody, aand i dont see myself enjoying it. If both parties are ok with it, then i dont see anything wrong with this.

Teacher: In the real world, student having sexual relationship with his/her teacher outside of the school environment could work, and i would not be against it, but it should not effect their student/teacher relationship in school. Personally i did fantasie about having sex with couple of my teachers in high school.

Tentacles: Pretty same with the monster girl. Cosplaying: go for it, but not my thing. Real tentacles: i guess go for it, but not my thing.

Yaoi/Yuri: Dont see anything wrong with these, not into yaoi myself, but i enjoy wathcing yuri.
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Misaki_Chi Fakku Nurse
mdarkanima wrote...
I think the beauty of a lot of hentai and porn situations is the fact that they aren't realistic. I get turned on because it's a fantasy, in real life I doubt they'd do much for me.

In real life I'm definitely sappy and prefer emotionally attached sex with my spouse. I know for certain he'd be uncomfortable with a number of the scenarios in hentai, and there would be a few that I wouldn't be comfortable with, in real-life sex is best for me when it's staying within my comfort zone. I'm open to new things but I prefer to discuss them before trying them just to make sure me and him are on the same page.

But yeah, I love the over the top hentai, I love schlicking to it, but I wouldn't ever want to do most of it in real life.


^^This pretty much describes how I feel^^

I do have an open mind with some of the genres out there, but I wouldn't practice some of them or have interest with some irl (extreme NTR, scat, guro, loli/shota, group orgy, incest). I would talk with my partner about things and reach a compromise about our likes and our deal breakers (luckily were both on the same page).
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Coconutt wrote...
Incest: Considered a taboo globally and probably illegal too. My own view is that if siblings (brother & sister) wanna have sex, they do it for the sexual pleasure, they use contraception, they both know what they are doing, then honestly i dont see the harm here. Even if they became lovers later, as long as they use contraception, i dont see the harm.


Whether or not it is illegal depends on where you live. There are many countries around the world which have no rules against incest, and those that do have varying levels of severity of punishment and varying definitions of what counts as incest.

And as far as the whole contraception thing goes, people blow the whole 'inbreeding causes genetic deficiencies' way out of proportion. The only reason it does is because it's more likely that 2 relatives have the same recessive allele that causes a disease. Plus with genetic scans, you can see if a zygote has the recessive alleles, so you can reduce the risk by a large margin.

Plus condoms aren't 100% affective anyway.
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Silence of the Yanderes wrote...
Whether or not it is illegal depends on where you live. There are many countries around the world which have no rules against incest, and those that do have varying levels of severity of punishment and varying definitions of what counts as incest.


Yeah, i know! All im saying is that it effects my liking to it, knowing that it is a social taboo and possibly illegal. Incest being illegal is not the big thing that deters me here, the social taboo part is what deters me more. And those same reasons are what might make me dislike it when other people do it aswell, but i think i was very clear on what i accept.

Silence of the Yanderes wrote...
And as far as the whole contraception thing goes, people blow the whole 'inbreeding causes genetic deficiencies' way out of proportion. The only reason it does is because it's more likely that 2 relatives have the same recessive allele that causes a disease. Plus with genetic scans, you can see if a zygote has the recessive alleles, so you can reduce the risk by a large margin.

Plus condoms aren't 100% affective anyway.


Yes, i agree again. And again all im saying is that those things atleast for me are big enough reasons to use contraception. Condoms are not the only form of contraception there is. The reason i would prefer relatives using contraception is because i think couples should make all possible efforts to ensure that the soon-to-be-born child borns as healthy as possible. Unfortunately incest in my oppinion can not make that effort.
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I'd say my love for tentacle/monster rape just means I like to be a little dominate, for her to submit, and dabble into some light bondage. That's all I can really think of. My hentai tastes are extreme, but I've always been tame when it comes to porn and whatnot.
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I'd love for monster girls to become a reality. It's easily complemented by a multitude of other genres (even the blasphemous union of Vanilla and NTR)!
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I may sound like a total dick but gaaaaaahd.. as long as I get to fuck a lot, why not? HAHAHA! Kidding aside, I am against all forms of rape since I consider myself a gentleman and I would never, ever force a girl to do something that she wouldn't like. My stand on incest is that I'd rather be celibate than porking any of my relatives since I have high moral standards and its just perverted. In hentai, hell yeah! But in real life? Naaaah, not a chance. As with the other fetishes? Mmm.. j'aime ma vie HAHAHA!
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