Is suicide a legitimate solution?

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Obviously, suicide is frowned upon by society, and can be seen as the lowest form of escape. I've understood that, since it is basically the laziest way to escape all your problems and negative emotions.

But still, it does help you solve the problem of being depressed. Why live if there is nothing but pain and suffering? There are no future prospects for you, and you have a 99% chance of continuing like this...until you actually die. Because lets face it, everyone's ultimate fate is death. Suicide is just meeting that ultimate faith earlier. Now there are heaps of things that people say about this...including the infamous You only live once, or life is precious. You can also be considered selfish, escaping all your problems and creating more problems for others...but the person who suicidede couldn't care less about being viewed negatively by everyone because he is already dead, incapable of any thoughts or feelings.

But no...my point in this post is not to encourage suicide, or change societies views about it. My question is, why is it so hard for people actually to go suicide, even if they made a plan already? Scared? Scared of death? Scared of death more than life? The statistics and my personal experience shows this...I know heaps of people that actually planned a suicide, or actually attempted, however none of them actually succeeded, because they pull back at the last second, almost as if unconsciously and our brains just tell us to stop at the final moment, when our subconscious overrides our consciousness and changes our actions so we have the highest possible chance of living.
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I would say it is and it isn't. If someone is suffering with something that they will eventually be able to escape from then no, patience would really be a factor in getting out of their situation. ... On the other hand if it's certain that the person is locked in that problem and hope just isn't even an option then maybe. It all really depends on the person and how much they believe in hope.
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Golden_Darkness wrote...
There are no future prospects for you, and you have a 99% chance of continuing like this...


First this is false , i would even say that you have 99% chance of not continuing like that , it's just a question of time . It's almost impossible that your life goes wrong for 80 years straight . The question now is , is it worth suffering for a period of time to live happy for another period of time ?


My question is, why is it so hard for people actually to go suicide, even if they made a plan already?


It's simple , if someone hesitate to suicide , it's that he never wanted to die . Most people who try to suicide do it because they don't see any other solution to stop suffering but even though they suffer , they don't want to die . They know that life won't always be like that , they just have no choice because they don't have the strength to suffer anymore .

It's like you were on a treadmill that you couldn't get off , sometimes it goes fast , sometimes it goes slower . But everyone has their limit and sometimes for some people the treadmill goes really really fast so his strength drop faster . And sometimes the treadmill can go fast like that for a long period of time , everyone has different strength too but after an enough long period of time , if the treadmill doesn't slow down , everyone will reach their limit , and that's when you colapse , even though you like runing .

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For the main question : I say yes , it might be egoist but fuck off , everyone is , i think it's more important to be happy than to make others happy . Also , i don't see why life is so important so i don't see any problem , if someone don't want to live , it's not such a big deal , go for it .

Though , if he doesn't think like me and thinks life is important then he should know that there is ways to make life less difficult to go through the hard times . You'll continue to suffer for a while , but at least it's gonna be easier . Speak to a mental health specialist , they are there for that .
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Its called self preservation, we can't help it. As they say only an insane man can bite his hand and actually break skin. I myself don't believe human life has any true value as there are billions of us and even being remembered by a billion people who don't matter doesn't get you anywhere. We're all going to die anyway, what's a few years in advance?
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I think it depends. For emotional pain, i generally err on no. Of course every situation is different, but for something like dealing with emotional fallout from a bad relationship i don't think suicide is the correct solution. Most emotional wounds can be healed imo.

But for physical pain, like brain cancer i am less strict. it is very hard to deal with that, and unlike with emotional pain it doesn't just go away. It is something you generally have to live with, and if someone doesn't want to lead a life of constant physical pain i can understand wanting to end it.
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Cruz Dope Stone Lion
In most cases it just seems like a permanent solution to a temporary problem.
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cruz737 wrote...
In most cases it just seems like a permanent solution to a temporary problem.


Isn't that great ? You can fix a problem forever even though it was only tempoary !
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Had a friend commit suicide a couple weeks ago, blew his brains out in his kitchen. He was looking at going back to federal prison for illegal firearms and drug charges. He was always trying to do things his way, always looking for short cuts. Could hardly belive half the shit that came out of his mouth, I thought he was O.K. just never got TOO close to him. Just in case he went down, I didn't want to get pulled down with him.
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Depends. If the situation is completely, undeniably unable to be remedied, and it's not the person's fault, then yes, it is a legitimate solution. If there is a decent chance of it being remedied, or it is the fault of the person's, then it is not acceptable. Especially if they're criminal scum. However, people with zero skills and that are wastes of resources in the world are free to kill themselves. We don't need to waste money on those people.

Basically, it varies from type to type. It's fine if someone is in a bad situation where they can't possibly recover from (massive injuries, absurd debt caused by family members that died, etc.) that wasn't self-inflicted. If either one of the two doesn't fit, then it isn't a legitimate reason. Criminals also should be unable to commit suicide, and should be sentenced to a painful death instead. Although that's an entirely different thread.
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Golden_Darkness wrote...
My question is, why is it so hard for people actually to go suicide, even if they made a plan already? Scared? Scared of death? Scared of death more than life?


Actually the people who attempt to commit suicide with the true ambition of doing so is a minority. A lot of people try to "commit suicide" because they want attention, all in the pursuit of a solution to a problem or a number of problems they are unable to fix. They do not actually want to die.
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http://www.cracked.com/article_15658_the-ten-minute-suicide-guide.html

Nuff said.
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I'm going to answer your question without reading your opening and I apologize if that offends you but my small ADD mind sees those two paragraphs and freaks the hell out so here it is my answer. Ending your life is an opinion that should never be eliminated but shouldn’t be taken lightly. I say if you’re in a situation where you can’t enjoy life for what it is, if something physically keeps you from getting any joy from life then yes suicide is an opinion. I say if you’re at a point in life where you are sad for some reason or another or dealing with a justifiably bad situation and have worked out every possible solution you can, then yes it’s a viable solution. I say if your lazy or don’t want to work for the joys life can bring you and expect happiness to come to you and get sad or depressed when it doesn’t then no you need to get a backbone get off your ass and look for your share of happiness because it’s out there waiting, you can have it you just have to work for it. You asked I shared.
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I've known for a long time that suicide is how i'll go out. unless something or someone kills me first. i have no intention of becoming some rickety old fart who can't even wipe my own ass. now this isn't the same as being suicidal. i've just decided that i'll not sit and wait for death. i'm gonna stand up and kick that fucker in the nuts. i go when i say.
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I believe this is a matter of theology/spirituality.

On a very cold and 'logical' level, it is. Especially in situations of outstanding and extreme mental torment, one is faced with two very ugly options; Either die sane, or continue with your life while your mind bends to the breaking point and fractures.

On a spiritual level, it is not. I'm not going to give some spiel about the immortal soul and suicide is a sin, but I do believe that it only begets more suffering. I believe in the intangible link between all humans, especially between loved ones and family members. When a person passes, their loss will be felt regardless.

Ultimately, suicide is both selfish and self-destructive. It's a contradiction. No one ever wants to endure suffering. It is very easy and very human to want a swift and permanent solution. However, it is never that simple. You do not die without a sound, you do not die without touching someone, somewhere.

I know it must sound like nonsense, to imply that someone you haven't even met yet might somehow grieve your passing as if you'd known them forever, but I believe in the concept of True North -- that there is some kind of metaphysical compass inside us that follows an unseen, almost-magnetic trail that leads us to where we're supposed to be in life. Something pulls or propels us to the people and places we are meant to meet and see. Our lives are not static or stationary. We're not meant for one unchanging state of existence. We learn and gain nothing from that.

So, to end your own life in the middle of a terrible phase in your life is to let go of the possibility of a better future. To let go of all the good people you've yet to meet, of all the good memories you've yet to make. It's giving up.

You can never succeed if you don't even try. Even if 'trying' is just barely holding on.
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I think it’s hard for some people to commit suicide because they feel bad for the people they leave behind, society has left us only terrible options when it comes to suicide (similar to when abortion was illegal, women would be desperate to use dangerous methods such as poisonous tea, a coat hanger…), and our body desperately wants to live (even if the mind does not). I think suicide is a legitimate solution. It is for me at least. Living has been awkward and tiring for me since I was in elementary school. I’m not depressed, I just don’t want to live to work forever. Personally I’m scared of the pain and what I will look like afterwards (I’m thinking of covering my head).
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I'm just going to say that the only reason I would commit suicide (or asked to be killed) is when I am old, completely crippled and a burden to any family I have. I just don't see the point of being alive if you're just a burden and can't do anything. I don't want to live until I'm 100. I want to live until my body gives out or no longer has normal functionality. Then I'll move onto the next realm if there is one.

There is also the situation. If you are cornered and know that your death will be painful, wouldn't you rather deny them of that joy? Don't forget. Suicide means to kill oneself. That doesn't mean your death has to be useless. If you're a soldier and you get shot in a heavy firefight, you will point your gun at your mates and tell them to go on without you knowing that if they do try to save you, they will die too. You might be the one carrying the explosives, and instead of just being a corpse to be on your buddy's back that he'll be forced to drop once he realizes that you've been hit while escaping, you would probably stay back and press the button the second the enemy goes through the door which would buy time for your friends.

Suicide can equal sacrifice. It is also a cowards way out in other conditions and sometimes, it is the only way out for people who have lost all hope. For those that have lost all hope, I believe it is wrong. But then again, look at those Japanese schools, they do seem pretty damn depressing. It all depends on a person's will. Hell, one of my favorite music artists is named Mr. Depression, and his lyrics are pretty damn depressing if you read them. Well, I wouldn't say depressing (unless you're in that situation), but Utsu-P's lyrics are a bit rather fucked up.
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I think a lifetime is a pretty long time frame in which to fix whatever it is that's trying to keel you over. That being said, I did jump in front of a bus when I was in 8th grade because I was afraid I wouldn't pass my exams and would end up a failure for the rest of my life. The bus missed me but slew my backpack unfortunately, plus I had to face reality when a busload of people cursed me for my stupidity. I don't regret doing it, because I learned from that that you should never throw away your life because if you just play your hand in life, things will always work out.
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I would say no.
Your just taking the easy way out, there is no god, Only an afterlife.
Its not worth it.
Kids need to realize life is not as bad as it seems.
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I believe every person has the right to end their own lives. The reasons that a person would use to end his/her life my seem weak to other people but, to that one person seeking an answear who is to say those reasons are not legit. When I turned 21 yrs I got my self a handgun for multiple reasons including if everything goes wrong in my life I will always have a way out.
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Definitely, yes.

Every person should be allowed to take his/her life for whatever reasons they have. I do consider the impact it may have on others, but that's why you burn your bridges or fall out of contact, etc. Even considering the impact, I'm really not good with understanding emotion. I mean if one of my friends or family offed themselves I don't think it'd affect me.

I think I think of it that way because of my twisted past, what I remember of it and what it caused me to be to this day.