Mentality shifts through prosthetics
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Our technology is advancing far with optical and cochlear implants and threatens to kill off the deaf and blind culture. It means a lot to us but the euphemism "cure" makes us feel all happy inside...
It's good but it's also a cultural loss. Does it matter to you? Or are you of the mind that in the end they are and should be diseases, made to be cured. Changing, not essentially raising, the bar for everyone to work and think the same.
I understand that pain and suffering are the negative in being either or both. The benefit comes from thinking differently. The viewpoint that comes from friends in either state is invaluable to me. Keeping me in the belief that we have enough normal people but I'm not firmly in the "for" or "against." It's too gray of a topic for me to be polarized but I would like to hear your thoughts and debates on it.
Regardless society will shift to have it "fixed" but I like the idea of having the ability to voluntarily turn off the senses. Which is the closest medium I can strike feeling that the "cure" is inevitable. Just like vaccination has turned us in to superhuman beings that we still like to call human so will we convert the "handicapped" to "normal."
It's good but it's also a cultural loss. Does it matter to you? Or are you of the mind that in the end they are and should be diseases, made to be cured. Changing, not essentially raising, the bar for everyone to work and think the same.
I understand that pain and suffering are the negative in being either or both. The benefit comes from thinking differently. The viewpoint that comes from friends in either state is invaluable to me. Keeping me in the belief that we have enough normal people but I'm not firmly in the "for" or "against." It's too gray of a topic for me to be polarized but I would like to hear your thoughts and debates on it.
Regardless society will shift to have it "fixed" but I like the idea of having the ability to voluntarily turn off the senses. Which is the closest medium I can strike feeling that the "cure" is inevitable. Just like vaccination has turned us in to superhuman beings that we still like to call human so will we convert the "handicapped" to "normal."
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This is an interesting idea, however, I believe that deaf or blind people would prefer to regain their senses through the use of technology.
Your topic really made me think of something a lot worse. :/
Your topic really made me think of something a lot worse. :/
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I have no doubt that every one would choose to have sight and sound. It rather saddens me at the cultural loss, not the individual's gain.
I'm sorry to cause a negative in your thoughts, hopefully I'll eventually cause a balance or a positive in the mental ledger for you.
I'm sorry to cause a negative in your thoughts, hopefully I'll eventually cause a balance or a positive in the mental ledger for you.
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I don't see a "culture" with being blind or deaf. Its a illness that 80-90% of sufferers can be cured of. Diseases cause the problem
cataracts (47.8%),
glaucoma (12.3%),
uveitis (10.2%),
age-related macular degeneration (AMD) (8.7%),
trachoma (3.6%),
corneal opacity (5.1%), and
diabetic retinopathy (4.8%)
If we can fix it then its inhumane in my idea to force them to stay that way unless they choose to. Hence why I get irritated with Christians who say "God, made you that way. So you should stay that way". Medicine exists to cure illnesses. Being blind or deaf is no different.
Saying there is a culture to being blind or deaf is like saying there is a culture to polio or having a limb amputated.
cataracts (47.8%),
glaucoma (12.3%),
uveitis (10.2%),
age-related macular degeneration (AMD) (8.7%),
trachoma (3.6%),
corneal opacity (5.1%), and
diabetic retinopathy (4.8%)
If we can fix it then its inhumane in my idea to force them to stay that way unless they choose to. Hence why I get irritated with Christians who say "God, made you that way. So you should stay that way". Medicine exists to cure illnesses. Being blind or deaf is no different.
Saying there is a culture to being blind or deaf is like saying there is a culture to polio or having a limb amputated.
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A perfect way of stating it and I in no way imply restricting someone to stay either blind or deaf. That would be a rather pointless exercise in limiting volition.
And I mean culture by "method of thought." So yes, in my way I expect the patterns of thought are altered by losing limb or not having it. I would prefer a better term to state the concept than "culture" but my bag of words is rather limited. The way they go about problems and solutions or just viewing things is different and often a very intriguing and effective way of doing so. Especially when many concepts bridge between systems and cause efficiency.
As for the God angle, The concept goes that God made us with the ability to think and there's no dictation I've ever heard that limits you from altering the body given to fit your needs. It could also be put that most Christians really want the commandment to be more like the First Law of Robotics rather than the minimal "Thou shalt not kill." Which would explain the allowance of medical refinement.
And I mean culture by "method of thought." So yes, in my way I expect the patterns of thought are altered by losing limb or not having it. I would prefer a better term to state the concept than "culture" but my bag of words is rather limited. The way they go about problems and solutions or just viewing things is different and often a very intriguing and effective way of doing so. Especially when many concepts bridge between systems and cause efficiency.
As for the God angle, The concept goes that God made us with the ability to think and there's no dictation I've ever heard that limits you from altering the body given to fit your needs. It could also be put that most Christians really want the commandment to be more like the First Law of Robotics rather than the minimal "Thou shalt not kill." Which would explain the allowance of medical refinement.
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Well, you can't force a cure unto someone but if the cure would be cheaper for society in the long run than putting up with their disability isn't a viable option. You would've to revoke certain advantages these people get since they're choosing to be a greater burden on society, for imaginary reasons.
However, I don't think many blind and/or deaf people would actually do that, they would be glad to be fully functional humans again.
Also, the cultural impact disabled persons had on societies that could be clearly traced to their disability it also rather slim, it's not like their minds are cultural world heritage.
On a slightly unrelated note: I advice you to change the thread title, it implies euthanasia and that isn't really what this thread is about.
However, I don't think many blind and/or deaf people would actually do that, they would be glad to be fully functional humans again.
Also, the cultural impact disabled persons had on societies that could be clearly traced to their disability it also rather slim, it's not like their minds are cultural world heritage.
On a slightly unrelated note: I advice you to change the thread title, it implies euthanasia and that isn't really what this thread is about.
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Oh, well. The limited prosthetic advance in those two fields caught my fancy for thought but it's a rather restricted line.
So I'll try to expand the topic to prosthetic extension in general. For example how interacting with an input system modeled after a keyboard giving 100+ simultaneous inputs while removing the restriction of our current 10 key bottleneck could change thinking. It brings to me the question whether is able to cope to that degree with a new form of feedback and response in distinct or make it seem more as a blurred input.
So I'll try to expand the topic to prosthetic extension in general. For example how interacting with an input system modeled after a keyboard giving 100+ simultaneous inputs while removing the restriction of our current 10 key bottleneck could change thinking. It brings to me the question whether is able to cope to that degree with a new form of feedback and response in distinct or make it seem more as a blurred input.
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I'm slightly biased in my opinions because, personally, I don't like technology. I don't really think that its all that great of an idea. If we have the technology fine, whatever, but I'm against going to such lengths to "fix" people. Doing that doesn't cure anything and its not as if, biologically, the human race is going to evolve beyond blindness and deafness. Its just another waste of money and resources that could be used for more pressing matters. The deaf and blind have been able to get along and function fine throughout history.
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I wouldn't mind a cure, as it stands now I will be fully deaf in my right ear with in the next 10 years.
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The Jesus wrote...
purifier wrote...
I want my body to be built out of titanium.I'd settle for titanium teeth.
Agreed but, either one is good. On second thought, titanium teeth that look pristine white. Never mind the titanium body, I want to get laid again eventually. I doubt ladies would be attracted to a shiny robotic looking body with a horribly cold penis. Every time they have sex they would feel like they are getting a pap-smear.
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Fiery_penguin_of_doom wrote...
The Jesus wrote...
purifier wrote...
I want my body to be built out of titanium.I'd settle for titanium teeth.
Agreed but, either one is good. On second thought, titanium teeth that look pristine white. Never mind the titanium body, I want to get laid again eventually. I doubt ladies would be attracted to a shiny robotic looking body with a horribly cold penis. Every time they have sex they would feel like they are getting a pap-smear.
Yes, that would be rather concerning to hear a friend come up for consolation and saying, "You know what she said? 'I bought something better than you from a magazine, why should I downgrade just because you talk back?'..."
