Respecting your elders

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devsonfire 3,000,000th Poster
Don't matter if they are Nazi. They did it as they were told by the upper people. Just like you did something as you were told by your manager, or else you'd get fired.

And respect should be there, and the amount of respect you give to the subject may go lower or higher depending on how they treat you and stuff.
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Unfortunately, only a small handful of the 'elders' in my life have truly deserved respect. I personally believe that your actions determine whether you deserve respect or not. Simply because you are someone's dad, doesn't make you a father. Simply because you're a grandparent, doesn't make you an honored patriarch.

Respect is earned. It is never a right.
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Zinall wrote...
Well, let's say there was a former navy seal with 1 hang, who is an asshole , but what if he lost his hand to save someone?


But usally i rarely somone older than me so eh, but when i was younger i always respted them because i admired old poeple cause they have a lot of life experince.


Just mainly quoting the top part but didn't want to quote out of context.

Let's just say that that former navy seal with 1 hand, who is an asshole; However, lost his hand not because he was saving someone but attempting to leave that person behind? We hear stories all the time and that's exactly what they are. Stories. Unfortunately we can only take their word for it.
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Well old people have lived longer than you and generally then have a lot of wisdom about life and how to live in the world. So maybe one is encouraged to be respectful so they will share thier wisdom with you?
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I treat with respect everyone that i meet , the same respect i give my closest friends but the point is will they keep my respect through their actions or lose it.As for respecting elders that is another theological discussion that people wouldn't want to hear.
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Lollikittie wrote...
Unfortunately, only a small handful of the 'elders' in my life have truly deserved respect. I personally believe that your actions determine whether you deserve respect or not. Simply because you are someone's dad, doesn't make you a father. Simply because you're a grandparent, doesn't make you an honored patriarch.

Respect is earned. It is never a right.


...T-T)9 Yes. Rep for you. Though for first meetings I always feel obliged to show respect to someone who is either a parent,older,etc. UNTIL ,hypothetically speaking, they bring out the jersey shore in them or something stupid. It's only a vicious cycle if we feed into it aka rude people so I think the best thing to do is to just let them fall in their own stupidity. Let them see the light when their 60 or on their deathbed or something. I dont give a crap. People should surround themselves with people they fancy instead of headaches. It's pointless and you'd just be hurting yourself.
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I start of trying to treat people with respect but if they give me a reason not to then all bets are off. I hate the concept of "You have to respect so-and-so because of this-and-that." If you disrespect me I don't care if your the pope, you won't get shit from me.
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rondwhud wrote...
lordisgaea3 wrote...
rondwhud wrote...
I treat everyone I meet with respect until they do something that cause them to lose my respect. However the past Nazi would defiantly not have my respect.


And what if this nazi guy saved more life beign a doctor after the war than he actualy killed in the war ?


Hmm you're absolutly right. I guess you would have to look at everything first. There are the soldiers the were "just following orders."


I know i'm kind of late to quote this but i was having a discussion with someone really unpleasant and i thought abouth you , well , your answer that you gave here .

I want to congratulate you for saying these words "you are right" , it's so rare and it seems so hard to admit that someone else is right and/or you are wrong , i ... just wanted to say that ... lol
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I believe that there should always be, just like cited earlier, a standard measure of respect for all those that you meet.

Of course, that value changes the instant you see someone and start interacting with them. Throuh their actions and thoughts, you build upon or retract your respect for them.

About the elderly, I must admit that, in almost any case, I have great respect for them. Even if they are difficult to live with. They represent our past, they have lived what is now becoming history. And for that knowledge of life, so insignificant might it be, they deserve a measure of respect.

Now on the case of the Nazi grampa, I'd say that he deserves respect only for his condition of human being, not for his knowledge or his wits of his actions. And even in this situation, I think I would probably say that there is almsot no more respect for him. But if you lose respect for him as a human being, then you are no better than him. Thus I respect his "humanity" in the form that he is a member of our race and must be treated as one, by us "civilized". As an example and contrast with his actions, as to elevate ourselves.

All human beings, and living creatures, deserve that respect in my opinion. But it stops there for our Nazi grampa case. For me that is.
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I think the majority of old people (hell, ALL PEOPLE) deserve respect until otherwise proven unworthy of it.

They've lived long lives and probably have something to offer, so treat them well.
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FinalBoss #levelupyourgrind
Respect has to be earned whether you're young or elderly. People should be given respect based on their character, not by how many years they've lived.
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personally I have always disliked people who believe they can treat people however they want and are still entitled to special treatment solely because they are a few years older than me, its very self righteous and annoys me to no end, I judge people based on their actions and treat them accordingly so basically me motto is treat others how they treat me, that may sound a bit immature but its the fairest way Iv'e found to deal with things.
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Ok so in the beginning i said that no one got what mean respecting your elders and i don't really understand why still no one said it .

The majority of people agree on something : respect is earned . Respecting your elders is a proverb , the guy who came up with it didn't say that out of the blue and those who perpetuated the proveb were not retarded , they also know that respect is earned .

From what i've seen , the problem here is that people think that it's black and white , you else respect someone or you don't which is completly stupid . You will never completly respect someone 100% , there's always things that he will do that will lower your general view of him.

The other problem here is no one understand what it means to be a elder . Elders have only one thing that you absolutly have to respect them for : experience . Whoever he is , whatever he did in is life , he lived longer than you and have aquired more experience of life than you do and that , you have to respect it .

So yeah , it doesn't mean you must have a general respect for your elders , just respect the fact that they have more experience of life .
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I think that everyone should be courteous to everyone else, but actual respect always has to be earned or else what's the point? I think that if you "respect" someone just because they are older than you it defeats the purpose. For example: If person A is 40 years old but a NEET and still living at their parents' house with no intention of trying to be active or provide for themselves and person B is 20 years old but has a fulltime job (or is a fulltime student, etc.) and is actively trying to further their career and progress in life, i think B deserves a lot more respect than A even if A is older. Age alone may have deserved respect in the past, when everyone had to struggle to stay alive (don't work = don't eat), but now (in first world countries at least) it isn't too hard to get by just leeching off everyone around you. My intention isn't to bash on anyone, I'm just putting my thoughts out for everyone to see ^^

Also, I apologize for any bad grammar, English was never a strong subject for me >.
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hmm.. from my point of view to be respected you need to earn them well.. i'm not really should be the one telling this since I always shout at my father. ahahaha.. lol
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As far as i see it, it's respect that carry you through the world. Everyone has a right to be respected til it is lost by the means of their actions. Normally, that's how i run my respect system and if shown then it's given. Example, the Nazi, if the guy is showing respect, then show it back. I sure know if i don't, it would be a shame and shows that my parents raised me wrong. As i see it, if respect is shown, then give it back. Don't be a idiot..trust me, i have herd instances of when a person don't show respect, goes even far to disrespect the person..it no pretty.
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My elders are racist, so I don't look up to them
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Holoofyoistu The Messenger
I respect elders by default, but if they do something to prove they don't deserve it, they lose my respect.
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Respecting your elders is bullshit. They just happen to be old. I treat everyone with a certain amount of respect right off the bat as soon as I meet them. I do the same with older people. Their age doesn't make them wise, and it doesn't make them more valuable. They may have more life experiences, like if they were in a war or something they may have some interesting stories that we can learn from. But I'm willing to bet that most old people were just regular people who worked at burger king or something.
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When I meet new people no matter what people say or rumors say about the person I show respect, from that point on depending on there actions they commit in front of me, Depends on if I keep the respect for them, or they loose it. But I want it to be noted that because I respect new people I meet, does not mean I trust them. trust and respect are two different books in my eyes.
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