Stereotypes of blacks

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charles2302 wrote...
Lishy1 wrote...
What I think of blacks? Nothing. In America, we should judge someone only by their character.

Although I do hate when people blame things on race, like the whole Trayvon Martin bullshit. That nearly started a race war...


The reason blame things on race with that is perspectives, if their roles were reversed, Trayvon Martin would been arrested on the spot, there wouldnt be anyone trying to prove his innocence, and their would be anyone supporting him. Where as with reality, they bring up news like Trayvon was a bad kid in school or that when he died there was THC in his system, and to most black it seems like people are trying to justify his death or make it like it isnt a big issue of him dying.


Weren't people trying to pass him off as a saint? Even Obama said that "if I had a kid, he would look like Trayvon", pretty big words for a president and it gives off a huge bias.
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All I know about Trayvon Martin is that prior to the shooting, he was apparently a troublemaker who caused trouble at school, and hung around with a bad crowd.

Pretty stupid that Obama would compliment such a kid just because he's black, because Trayvon was probably a prick in real life, putting the murder aside.

Which brings up an interesting and somewhat true stereotype. A lot of black people in America tend to have this extreme bias to support each other simply because they're black, even when the situation makes no sense... Case in point? President Obama. (Though in the case of Obama, he was probably just trying to get political support by talking about Trayvon Martin...)
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Singapore is a mixed race country, to be racist here is as redundant as pouring water to the sea I'm used to it, i don't mind it and i don't hate it.

Being narrow minded isn't going make your life better.
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Lishy1 wrote...

Which brings up an interesting and somewhat true stereotype. A lot of black people in America tend to have this extreme bias to support each other simply because they're black, even when the situation makes no sense... Case in point? President Obama. (Though in the case of Obama, he was probably just trying to get political support by talking about Trayvon Martin...)


You hit the nail on the friggin' head. It really gets on my nerves when I see people praising Obama for doing a good job just because of his skin color. It pisses me off to no end when people praise incompetence just because of something as minor as skin color.
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Freaky Green wrote...
Hmmm u know that blacks, well any human, will tend to become what they watch


You do know there are a whole bunch of blacks who hate BET, right?

The Randomness wrote...
Weren't people trying to pass him off as a saint? Even Obama said that "if I had a kid, he would look like Trayvon", pretty big words for a president and it gives off a huge bias.


Lishy1 wrote...
All I know about Trayvon Martin is that prior to the shooting, he was apparently a troublemaker who caused trouble at school, and hung around with a bad crowd.


The reason people were pissed about the Travyon thing is because Zimmerman shot a teenager and there was no trial. That is all reasonable people have been trying to get, a trial to get all the facts out there. And the insistence on bringing up Travyons past just seems like blaming the victim.
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A person like anyone else.

The thing about generalization is just that nobody pays attention when it is not about black people, which is rather annoying. If you have black people being shot in a game everyone's gonna complain, but if you have white people being shot in a videogame, nobody cares. The fuck? (PS: One of the resident evil games had to add white zombies because all of them were Africans and therefore black zombies, so there was complaint about that... Totally makes sense)

And then there is the lame use of the race card, everything you criticize about a black man, be it completely unrelated to his ethnicity, can and most certainly will be called as racist. I remember discussing economy with a "friend" of mine and criticizing Obama's state capitalism then I was accused of racism... I mean, what the hell, I guess we should call all the universities around the globe to tell them we discovered a new race, the schools of economics.

There are generalizations for white people just as there are for black people, but nobody pays attention to it or cares and makes it seem like its all on the black ones.
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Human beings?
As in, hell, we are from the same species, why should I view them differently?

BUT I view differently those of my own species that possess a "menacing aura", meaning hanging around on the street curb talking very loud and looking at you as though your some fat pidgeon. For me living in France, this type of people are mostly of arabic origins, but that doesn't make me prejudiced (or at least I think so) just cautious from past experiences (not pleasant at all).

So yeah, nope, just human beings.
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Personally, as long as they don't start giving me lip or attitude, we'll be fine. Insults, however...if they start throwing any my way, I throw some back in spades.

Black people, from my experience, are about the same as every other race I've encountered where I live, (we even have ASIANS here, which is a bit odd since Mexicans make up the majority of the population here).

Again, don't start something stupid with me and the sun'll shine.
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Most of the black people in my area do absolutely nothing to help dissipate the gangsta stereotype, and in fact revel in it (rap/hip-hop culture is rather prevalent around here).

But I have met the occasional normal guy who just happens to be black.

Although I am still weirded out by black otaku/nerds. They're likely a lot more common than I think- but I've just never met one face-to-face before.
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I personally never fully understood the term 'racism'. Racism implies one is discriminating against another for their race. Last I checked all humans are the same race/species... So, essentially the 'racism' people refer to is just plain old discrimination.

ANYHOW! Don't see them as any different as any other. My best friend is black. Half my family is black, my half being white. My mother is like the daughter of a mix-race which was the child of a mix-race which was also a child of a mix-race, so she's kind of got this permanent tan going on.
Also, I've noticed that discrimination towards black people apparently matters more to the public than discrimination towards white people.

The only difference I see is that they can say a particular term which I cannot say, without having to confront some sort of accusation of 'racism'.
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Black Jesus JC wrote...

The reason people were pissed about the Travyon thing is because Zimmerman shot a teenager and there was no trial. That is all reasonable people have been trying to get, a trial to get all the facts out there. And the insistence on bringing up Travyons past just seems like blaming the victim.


I'm talking about how he's glorified personally BECAUSE he's black!

Cops shoot people with no trial all the time! And when does the media ever make a big deal about that?
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PumpJack McGee wrote...

Although I am still weirded out by black otaku/nerds. They're likely a lot more common than I think- but I've just never met one face-to-face before.



THIS!

I know a guy that is just like this! He doesn't look and act like it but, he definitely is an otaku! Me and my friend was talkin on the bus one time about anime and gaming and this guy just randomly joined up the conversation w/ us. It was pretty scary since he was pretty built.
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I dont give a shit what race or color you are, If you show me respect, I will return it in kind. You dis me, than fuck you too. Simple if you think about it eh?
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Calling a varied and not always nationality/ethnically-connected "group" by a single name ("black") always seemed pretty wrong to me.

People are people. But then again, to ignore race completely is to ignore the generations of persecution against certain groups; one should know that racial privilege/disadvantage exist, and acknowledge those, but NOT judge someone based on the color of their skin. Ever.
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The Randomness wrote...
charles2302 wrote...
Lishy1 wrote...
What I think of blacks? Nothing. In America, we should judge someone only by their character.

Although I do hate when people blame things on race, like the whole Trayvon Martin bullshit. That nearly started a race war...


The reason blame things on race with that is perspectives, if their roles were reversed, Trayvon Martin would been arrested on the spot, there wouldnt be anyone trying to prove his innocence, and their would be anyone supporting him. Where as with reality, they bring up news like Trayvon was a bad kid in school or that when he died there was THC in his system, and to most black it seems like people are trying to justify his death or make it like it isnt a big issue of him dying.


Weren't people trying to pass him off as a saint? Even Obama said that "if I had a kid, he would look like Trayvon", pretty big words for a president and it gives off a huge bias.


Not a saint but a good kid, which he was because even if he had done things that are bad in his life, as long as he isnt a mass murderer he isnt bad just misdirected...
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Lishy1 wrote...


Which brings up an interesting and somewhat true stereotype. A lot of black people in America tend to have this extreme bias to support each other simply because they're black, even when the situation makes no sense... Case in point? President Obama. (Though in the case of Obama, he was probably just trying to get political support by talking about Trayvon Martin...)


The reason for that is because the way blacks in my neighborhood see it is, races keep wealth within races, in rican neighborhood all the stores are spanish owned, in asian neighborhood all the stores are asian owned, its also how us outsiders see a caucasian community...In our communities stores are owned by all races except blacks.

to us it seems like we dont support eachother at all, therefore they support people who has recieved fame politically or who are celebrities...
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Lishy1 wrote...
Black Jesus JC wrote...

The reason people were pissed about the Travyon thing is because Zimmerman shot a teenager and there was no trial. That is all reasonable people have been trying to get, a trial to get all the facts out there. And the insistence on bringing up Travyons past just seems like blaming the victim.


I'm talking about how he's glorified personally BECAUSE he's black!

Cops shoot people with no trial all the time! And when does the media ever make a big deal about that?


He wasn't glorified because he was black, he was glorified, as people have been glorified in the past, as an example of black people being persecuted even though things are supposed to be 'equal' in this world. The fact is some guy who wasn't even a cop shot a black kid even though he was told to leave him alone because he felt the black kid was dangerous. DESPITE the fact that Trayvon looked...like a regular kid. The only conclusion that can be made, is that Zimmerman felt that because Trayvon was black, that meant he was dangerous. And THAT is what pissed people off.

This isn't an instance of a cop shooting someone without trial, it's an instance of some guy blatantly gunning down an innocent boy for thinking he's dangerous when the only difference between him and other kids was his skin color, and the fact that HE COULD GET AWAY WITH IT.
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I think of blacks in a variety of ways.

1. I think that stereotypes are perpetrated by those who either are ignorant or by actual examples.

2. I remain wary among them, not because I'm afraid of them, but because I don't want to offend them, even if my mind has notions on what to do.

3. I see them as people, nothing more.


I think that about sums it up.
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charles2302 wrote...
The Randomness wrote...
charles2302 wrote...
Lishy1 wrote...
What I think of blacks? Nothing. In America, we should judge someone only by their character.

Although I do hate when people blame things on race, like the whole Trayvon Martin bullshit. That nearly started a race war...


The reason blame things on race with that is perspectives, if their roles were reversed, Trayvon Martin would been arrested on the spot, there wouldnt be anyone trying to prove his innocence, and their would be anyone supporting him. Where as with reality, they bring up news like Trayvon was a bad kid in school or that when he died there was THC in his system, and to most black it seems like people are trying to justify his death or make it like it isnt a big issue of him dying.


Weren't people trying to pass him off as a saint? Even Obama said that "if I had a kid, he would look like Trayvon", pretty big words for a president and it gives off a huge bias.


Not a saint but a good kid, which he was because even if he had done things that are bad in his life, as long as he isnt a mass murderer he isnt bad just misdirected...


A good kid who gets suspended from school and getting in a fight with a bus driver. A mass murderer is an extreme, being a "thug" in school is bad, trying to start fights is bad, ditching/suspended out of school is bad. He was 17, I think it is more than enough time for someone to realize that being "misdirected" is not the same as being "bad" in situations.

One of the biggest issues with this was the fact that they kept using pictures of when he was a little kid, while he was 17 when he died. For a while, I thought he was a little kid, until his most recent pics came out. That little kid influenced a "good side" in him in a lot of people.


Here is a problem I had with the news lately, it isn't afraid to keep on showing stuff on the court case or evidence, but I barely even heard of this case:

http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-504083_162-57390638-504083/cops-seek-teens-who-allegedly-set-fire-to-13-year-old-student/

http://www.kctv5.com/story/17260926/mother-of-teen-who-claims-set-on-fire-says-were-being-brushed-off

This is even worse than what happened to Trayvon, but there is no huge outrage over this? As some people have said, what if the colors were reversed?
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I've talked to black people only when abroad. There aren't that many in Finland in the first place, and the town I live in is pretty small. I don't know if I watch different shows than everyone else, but for me the media stereotype black people are funny, not so well of financially and have the same accent. You know, like the one they have in Everybody Hates Chris. I've often heard that media portrays black people to be more violent, but I haven't really noticed.

That's all I got.