The Disabled

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Found this one on another forum and the other members replies were quite fascinating...

Anyways, the question was:

Do you pity the disabled?
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I would if they didn't get such incredible amounts of special treatment, kind of like Carlos Mencia.
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I do pity them, but only in the way of "Wow, that sucks for you" pity.

I used to be hardcore anti-handicap. I felt that you have what the Primes dealt you and you need to live with it. I also supported the Japanese line of thought when it came to this, don't give them any sort of special privileges, expect the same out of them as you do with everyone else and eventually they might taper off somewhere.

Nowadays though, I really don't care one way or another, but there is a handicapped person I work with at one of my jobs who thinks they can skate by cause they always have. I kinda give him a hard time because he's a slacker as well as give him projects when everyone else would be content to let him wander on the clock. "You have to work for a paycheck just like the rest of us." is what I tell him.
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BTW. Usually in Movies, Disabled person sometimes hate to be pitied... is that true? If so, why?
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Actually come to think of it I despise how easy it is to fake being disabled, my mom screwed up her knee about 10 years ago, she claims she can't work still because of it, I say she can't work because she is a fatass and a lazy bitch, but hey what do I know I'm not the one of us who has basically spent the last 10 years in bed, I'm not the one busting my ass by watching GAC all fucking day (I hate country music after all). No, I'm the lazy-ass who does all of the house chores except the occasional dishes, which we have a machine for.

In short, I fucking hate the one "disabled" person I live with, and I'm totally bitter about it.

EDIT: I would think only an overly prideful disabled person would have a problem with being pitied, I would totally have a problem with being pitied, or disabled for that matter.
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Uzumaki101 wrote...
BTW. Usually in Movies, Disabled person sometimes hate to be pitied... is that true? If so, why?


To be honest, I doubt it's like that since most humans are lazy and will take every break they can get, it's in our blood (for the most part). Most of the handicapped people I know either don't know they are or they do know they are use it to their advantage. Though I'm sure this question would be much better suited directed at someone who is suffering from the debilitation.

edit: @Kais86- that's ruff dude, i hate working with them, i dont think i could stand living with them..
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I'm on the border between cripple and not. So it's interesting when my coin flips and I start limping from overworking my foot(missing a tendon). It's no biggie and my pain tolerance just nulls out recognition when I do but over the years I've caught on to keep watch when I'm limping and realize when other people notice. Which is happening less as I build up all the muscles that are there.

Because I think if you're cripple all the time people have a set expectation of your capabilities, being either in the plus or way down in the minus. But when you're capable most of the time and all of a sudden people get a heads up that you're not always up to par it starts to polarize responses. Some think you can keep going and it's just an act, which sucks especially when I keep that same mindset and my foot fails to reach both our expectations. Which usually ends up with a lacking ability to walk or stand for the rest of a week.

I've never been able to figure out a response to the other altruist reaction.

On the scope of full handicap, if they crash and burn or are about to, I'll pick them up. Otherwise it's an endless test of the virtue of patience.
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I do not pity them, however, I realize that some things in life may be much harder or impossible for them. I find that some disabled get annoyed when you pity them. I can't tell why, but they just do.
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RaiArashi wrote...
I find that some disabled get annoyed when you pity them. I can't tell why, but they just do.

It's normally an issue of pride, or at least that's what a disabled friend told me when he was offered help.
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Uzumaki101 wrote...
BTW. Usually in Movies, Disabled person sometimes hate to be pitied... is that true? If so, why?


Movies never lie.

and sometimes they just kinda milk it.
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l3lackmage wrote...
Movies never lie.


How true, how true...XD
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This may seem a little cold, but no. Here's why, My Grandfather lost his right leg at age 15. It never stopped him from accomplishing anything. I always refer to him as "the one-legged man that WON the ass kicking contest". enough said.
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I pity them, because they won't be able to experience some things that count as normal activities to us day to day, but i don't show my feelings to their face. I hate being pitited, and i assume the same for any disabled person.
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nightclock wrote...
I do pity them, but only in the way of "Wow, that sucks for you" pity.


Pretty much.
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no.i don't pity them and i try to treat them on the same page as normal persons.and in certain countries there are lots of disabled-friendly facilities anyways.so it's there's no reason for me to pity them.

and if there's any of my pity for them,like nightclock posted,it's the "that sucks for you" pity

however,i'll help them if they asked for it and if the circumstances forced them to do less than normal persons(like in my country,where disabled-friendly facilities are rare).
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mnx wrote...
no.i don't pity them and i try to treat them on the same page as normal persons.and in certain countries there are lots of disabled-friendly facilities anyways.so it's there's no reason for me to pity them.

and if there's any of my pity for them,like nightclock posted,it's the "that sucks for you" pity

however,i'll help them if they asked for it and if the circumstances forced them to do less than normal persons(like in my country,where disabled-friendly facilities are rare).

I agree but need to point out most of us would probably help non-disabled people to do stuff if they asked.
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It depends on what kind of disability. And lifestyle, I suppose.
The lack of a leg or two, not so much, I think you can live a rich life without those. The hands would be worse, as we humans really depend on them to utilize our tools.
But most people without hands seems to find ways around it, as long as they have their head intact.

Mental disorders on the other hand..
I think we all are screwed in the head more or less, but when it's beyond certain extent, I even have a hard time to consider them as human beings. Pity might not be the word for it, but I think some should rather die in the wild than being a burden.
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There was this guy when I used to take kendo without both legs and he totally kicked ass just by hopping around on one arm and whacking the guy with the other.
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Remember, it is empathy, not sympathy, especially when it comes to people less fortunate than ourselves in terms of their physical and mental capabilties.

Putting ourselves into their shoes, I doubt we want to be pitied. After all, human beings have their own pride. Instead of pity, we should treat them as equals, and sometimes, maybe to the point of respect, since some of them are able to achieve feats which we will never be able to, even with our physical or mental advantage.
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Gambler wrote...
Remember, it is empathy, not sympathy, especially when it comes to people less fortunate than ourselves in terms of their physical and mental capabilties.

I damn sure don't have any empathy either.
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