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Fiery_penguin_of_doom wrote...
Hibia wrote...
But don't fake where you were from with any authority, or your legs shall be ripped off.What he said. With the general people you can lie and say your Canadian but, why lie and say your Canadian when you can prove to people that all Americans aren't stuck up closed minded pricks.
Also, sure everyone will think you're nicer if you're Canadian, but they will also think you're a chump a rube and duche.
Just be honest, they worst that happens is some crazy righ guy tries to kill you with a buzsaw.
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PersonDude wrote...
I believe you just described basic human nature instead of describing Americans. If you looked closely I believe you can easily find many people who are like that... Look at the French. I went there once, though I was young, I could see the indifferent attitude these people had were astounding...I probably am describing human nature, but since Americans are also humans, wouldn't that mean they're the same? I don't think I ever said in my post that Americans and only Americans are guilty of these things.
PersonDude wrote...
Also, find me a country where people don't have extreme pride for their own nation. It's human nature to be biased about your own.There's nothing wrong with patriotism, but I think Americans generally take it to a whole different level. If you drive through Europe, you won't find a flag in one out of ten houses, whereas in the US you will, especially in the suburbs. While in an American high school, every morning we were supposed to pledge our allegiance to the flag. I've never heard of people doing that as a morning routine in England.
PersonDude wrote...
About butting into other nation's affairs... Did you even read the previous posts? Maybe we should have left your country alone in both WWs and you could all be speaking german right now. Last little bit may sound harsh, but it's reality. It seems our country is put in a damned if you do, damned if you don't situations where we get blamed if we DON'T help and if we do, we're accused of sticking our nose where it doesn't belong...I was talking about recent events. If you want a thank you for the WWs, then thank you very much. You guys were a great help and, honestly, without you all of Europe would a Nazi nation. However, if we're going to go further into the past, shouldn't you guys be thankful we created you? Let's avoid this argument, though, seeing as it won't go anywhere. Again, I was talking about the last few decades.
In my prior post I was generalizing a lot. I didn't mean to imply that every single American that exists has the characteristics I described, seeing as there are always exceptions wherever you go. All I meant to say is that in America the specific vices that I pointed out seem to be more evident than in other countries. I meant neither that every American was guilty of those vices nor that other countries did not have those vices themselves.
P.S. I'd just like to apologize if I sounded condescending or arrogant in either of my two posts, please believe me that it was not my intentions.
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Been there a few times now but everytime I get the idea that i'm dumped in cartoon.
Yes the average american is huge i'm not a small guy but everytime I go there I feel like i'm a skinny dude.
They have little to none knowledge of what's really happening in the US and i'm not even going to start what they know outside the US.
The have no idea what riding a bike means. walk as little as they can oh yeah they don't have normal sized food. Smaal there is supersized in Europe.
They are friendly towards you but you immediatly feel the fact that they don't mean it. They don't give a damn about you.
They are hypocrits and arrogant.
Yes the country is nice but in general the people aren't, give me canadians any time of the day above Americans.
Yes the average american is huge i'm not a small guy but everytime I go there I feel like i'm a skinny dude.
They have little to none knowledge of what's really happening in the US and i'm not even going to start what they know outside the US.
The have no idea what riding a bike means. walk as little as they can oh yeah they don't have normal sized food. Smaal there is supersized in Europe.
They are friendly towards you but you immediatly feel the fact that they don't mean it. They don't give a damn about you.
They are hypocrits and arrogant.
Yes the country is nice but in general the people aren't, give me canadians any time of the day above Americans.
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flln723 wrote...
I probably am describing human nature, but since Americans are also humans, wouldn't that mean they're the same? I don't think I ever said in my post that Americans and only Americans are guilty of these things.Go read your post and you will see you used "Americans" instead of "human beings" in your paragraph. If it's such a general human action, then you shouldn't be complaining about how just one country is at fault for having a close minded outlook on things, because that just tells me YOU are being close minded for seeing it that way.
flln723 wrote...
There's nothing wrong with patriotism, but I think Americans generally take it to a whole different level. If you drive through Europe, you won't find a flag in one out of ten houses, whereas in the US you will, especially in the suburbs. While in an American high school, every morning we were supposed to pledge our allegiance to the flag. I've never heard of people doing that as a morning routine in England.What's wrong with pledging allegiance to the flag? No worse than having to hail the queen everytime you saw her. Though not a daily event, it's still tradition and every country has it's tradition that other countries might have trouble agreeing to. It doesn't mean that country should be ridiculed for it.
flln723 wrote...
I was talking about recent events. If you want a thank you for the WWs, then thank you very much. You guys were a great help and, honestly, without you all of Europe would a Nazi nation. However, if we're going to go further into the past, shouldn't you guys be thankful we created you? Let's avoid this argument, though, seeing as it won't go anywhere. Again, I was talking about the last few decades.Name some that you are currently unhappy with. I wasn't asking for thanks though appreciated, just wanted acknowledgement that America does good by "butting into" foreign affairs... most of the times. As for creating us... we created ourselves... unless your talking about giving birth to our forefathers...
flln723 wrote...
In my prior post I was generalizing a lot. I didn't mean to imply that every single American that exists has the characteristics I described, seeing as there are always exceptions wherever you go. All I meant to say is that in America the specific vices that I pointed out seem to be more evident than in other countries. I meant neither that every American was guilty of those vices nor that other countries did not have those vices themselves.I know America isn't a perfect nation and I do see the type of things you have mentioned. But I just wanted to clear up the fact that America isn't the only nation with this problem. You can go to any other nation and find the same ailments.
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Dante1214 wrote...
And hey, at least we aren't Canadian.Whatcha talkin bout Willis?
Canadians are awesome. We get free health care, we speak french and we love hockey. You can't get more awesome than that.
Just make sure you don't attention to those separatist in Quebec and those tools from Alberta. Sometimes those people give us a bad name.
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Azuran wrote...
Dante1214 wrote...
And hey, at least we aren't Canadian.Whatcha talkin bout Willis?
Canadians are awesome. We get free health care, we speak french and we love hockey. You can't get more awesome than that.
Just make sure you don't attention to those separatist in Quebec and those tools from Alberta. Sometimes those people give us a bad name.
Free health care has it's price, French is the lamest Romantic language, and you Canadians don't practice hockey as a sport, you practice it as a religion.
And I lived in Michigan long enough to develop a real dislike of hockey.
You don't play real Football, although neither do we Americans. And at least you play rugby.
Actually, the biggest problem I have with Canadians is that Canadian pride is based mostly on just not being American.
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Dante1214 wrote...
Azuran wrote...
Dante1214 wrote...
And hey, at least we aren't Canadian.Whatcha talkin bout Willis?
Canadians are awesome. We get free health care, we speak french and we love hockey. You can't get more awesome than that.
Just make sure you don't attention to those separatist in Quebec and those tools from Alberta. Sometimes those people give us a bad name.
Free health care has it's price, French is the lamest Romantic language, and you Canadians don't practice hockey as a sport, you practice it as a religion.
And I lived in Michigan long enough to develop a real dislike of hockey.
You don't play real Football, although neither do we Americans. And at least you play rugby.
AActually, the biggest problem I have with Canadians is that Canadian pride is based mostly on just not being merican.
We appreciate soccer here in Toronto. Just look at the success of Toronto FC.
Yeah, we suck we it comes to pride. We only show it on special occasions or when its convenient for us.
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Dante1214 wrote...
You don't play real Football, although neither do we Americans. And at least you play rugby. The whole "football vs soccer" thing is so confusing.
Americans call it "soccer." The rest of the world calls it "futbol." What we call "football," the rest of the world calls "American football."
Why not just call the game with the round ball "soccer" and call the game with the huge shoulder pads "football"? That way, all over the world, they would have the same name?
Or maybe overseas, they can call basketball "handball," and really make things confusing.
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ShaggyJebus wrote...
Dante1214 wrote...
You don't play real Football, although neither do we Americans. And at least you play rugby. The whole "football vs soccer" thing is so confusing.
Americans call it "soccer." The rest of the world calls it "futbol." What we call "football," the rest of the world calls "American football."
Why not just call the game with the round ball "soccer" and call the game with the huge shoulder pads "football"? That way, all over the world, they would have the same name?
Or maybe overseas, they can call basketball "handball," and really make things confusing.
In American Football we don't kick the ball or use our feet that much during the game unlike Soccer. So logic dictates that Soccer should actually be Football and American Football should come up with a new name. That or we can just say fuck it and everyone can play Rugby!
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ShaggyJebus wrote...
Dante1214 wrote...
You don't play real Football, although neither do we Americans. And at least you play rugby. The whole "football vs soccer" thing is so confusing.
Americans call it "soccer." The rest of the world calls it "futbol." What we call "football," the rest of the world calls "American football."
Why not just call the game with the round ball "soccer" and call the game with the huge shoulder pads "football"? That way, all over the world, they would have the same name?
Or maybe overseas, they can call basketball "handball," and really make things confusing.
Well, there are a lot of different types of football, football is really an umbrella term. What we call soccer in America and is just called football in most other countries is Association football, which is the most popular sport worldwide. American football is a decendant of Rugby football.
So maybe it's confusing, but it's just the way it is.
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Fiery_penguin_of_doom wrote...
ShaggyJebus wrote...
Dante1214 wrote...
You don't play real Football, although neither do we Americans. And at least you play rugby. The whole "football vs soccer" thing is so confusing.
Americans call it "soccer." The rest of the world calls it "futbol." What we call "football," the rest of the world calls "American football."
Why not just call the game with the round ball "soccer" and call the game with the huge shoulder pads "football"? That way, all over the world, they would have the same name?
Or maybe overseas, they can call basketball "handball," and really make things confusing.
In American Football we don't kick the ball or use our feet that much during the game unlike Soccer. So logic dictates that Soccer should actually be Football and American Football should come up with a new name. That or we can just say fuck it and everyone can play Rugby!
I think I get what you're saying - we should start calling football soccer, and start calling soccer football.
I admit, as an American, it seems wrong, but it does make the most sense. I can put aside my illogical patriotism.
I cannot agree more about Rugby though. Why isn't that shit broadcast primetime here in the States? FOX already has a show where people destroy each other emotionally (The Moment of Truth), why not have a show where people destroy each other physically, too? It'd be just like regular football, whoops, I mean, soccer, except without all that wimpy gear. The ratings would go through the roof! And maybe, just maybe, we could actually see a person die on TV. I know it doesn't usually happen in Rugby, but we Americans, we gotta go overboard, don't we? I think if we did, someone would die. And that would be awesome.
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Being American I know you can't judge us all by a few. Sure I'm fat and I wear a camera around my neck when I am traveling but then I don't wear tube socks with sandals and Hawaiian Shirts.
But then you have all kinds of people depending on where they are from effects how they act for example I'm a Southerner, so I believe in a little thing called Southern Hospitality. I'll be a nice guy and say hello to you even if I have no fucking clue who you are. While someone from the west would call me a little too friendly. It's just normal for where I live.
But then you have all kinds of people depending on where they are from effects how they act for example I'm a Southerner, so I believe in a little thing called Southern Hospitality. I'll be a nice guy and say hello to you even if I have no fucking clue who you are. While someone from the west would call me a little too friendly. It's just normal for where I live.
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ShaggyJebus wrote...
I think I get what you're saying - we should start calling football soccer, and start calling soccer football.I admit, as an American, it seems wrong, but it does make the most sense. I can put aside my illogical patriotism.
I cannot agree more about Rugby though. Why isn't that shit broadcast primetime here in the States? FOX already has a show where people destroy each other emotionally (The Moment of Truth), why not have a show where people destroy each other physically, too? It'd be just like regular football, whoops, I mean, soccer, except without all that wimpy gear. The ratings would go through the roof! And maybe, just maybe, we could actually see a person die on TV. I know it doesn't usually happen in Rugby, but we Americans, we gotta go overboard, don't we? I think if we did, someone would die. And that would be awesome.
Not quite what I was going for but, it would work. I never liked American Football the players are cocky, paid way too much and a player is in the news every time you turn around for drugs or beating their wife/girlfriend. I just like rugby plain and simple. If my school had a rugby team I would have joined immediately.
European football - Football
American Football - Grid Iron or something else
@Angelus: Yeah, we southerners tend to get a little friendly with everyone though you don't see that as much in Cities like Atlanta where there is a high number of northern transplants.
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I'm american and I most definitely dont fit many of those stereotypes
I know where canada is located on the map
I hate fast food especially mcdonalds...yuck
I am not fat
I am very open-minded,otherwise I wouldnt be into hentai or foreign animation
I hate sports, its sooo boring to watch
I'm not really into BBQs
and I hate soda, it makes my throat feel wierd
I know where canada is located on the map
I hate fast food especially mcdonalds...yuck
I am not fat
I am very open-minded,otherwise I wouldnt be into hentai or foreign animation
I hate sports, its sooo boring to watch
I'm not really into BBQs
and I hate soda, it makes my throat feel wierd
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by no means does any opinion of what the general populous is like does it encompase all. there are always exceptions.
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Ever since I started to gain a perspective/interest in history between colonial and current eras and started studying economics I began to build a rather large respect for America and Americans in general. Unfortunately I'm also all too aware of how fucked up the country can be (how they treat their poor is a pretty excellent example of it) and really am not too crazy about the extreme religiosity in the Bible belt but that's not American exclusive and is more of a general reaction to overzealous religious fundamentalism world wide. Creationism/anti-evolution is a largely American specific gripe though.
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blind_assassin wrote...
Ever since I started to gain a perspective/interest in history between colonial and current eras and started studying economics I began to build a rather large respect for America and Americans in general. Unfortunately I'm also all too aware of how fucked up the country can be (how they treat their poor is a pretty excellent example of it).I have to disagree. The poor get several benefits ranging from EBT (food stamps0, tax breaks to welfare. Along with dozens upon dozens of charities. Hell, we even have systems to get the homeless back on their feet and into society again. Now we might not just give them food a house and a car but, that is how our society works. Nothing is free, you earn your keep.
If you have any ideas to improve how we treat the poor I would like to hear them (really, I want to hear them).