Monster Hunter Ultimate Thread

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Rbz wrote...
Kaimax wrote...
armor skills


What's this about turtle powers? Demo doesn't allow customization. The great sword and lances came with fat fuck armor that made maneuvering more tedious than actual combat. The easy hunt, as the game calls it, is against the Lagombi. The hard is against Plesioth. The demo is 20 minutes and I could swear this shit was rigged. Plesioth won't die and does nothing but fin slap when I'm next to him. Is sword and shield just the wrong type for this fuck?

What annoys me about combat is the inability to change direction mid combo. The maneuverability of S&S and DS is what makes them master race. They have quick hits, which allows dodging almost whenever. They're the ones I murdered Lagombi in about 10 minutes with, not including the time it takes to get to him initially. Combat is reminiscent of Dark Souls, but not even the heaviest weapon in Dark Souls had the fat fuckery and extreme recovery times of the great sword. If you miss, you're fucked, and if you hit and don't stagger, you're fucked, at least until the guy decides to finally lift the thing up after a lunch break, at which point dodging is finally possible.

Kaimax wrote...
Oh yeah, MH3U is on discount for $19.99 in the E-shop until February 3rd.


Ha, fucking nintendo. Unlike discounts elsewhere, their discounts are actually a big deal since nintendo thinks its nintendick is big enough to not mark down their prices even years after release. All right, all right, I'll get the fucking thing. I'll think of it as a shitty Shadow of the Colossus with Dark Souls-esque fighting mechanics. I hated the fat roll in Dark Souls, by the way. Even mid roll was borderline unacceptable.


You utilize the rolling for slow ass weapons. As for turtling, you have to constantly keep guard up whenever you try to approach a monster since lance and gunlance can't dodge as well as other weapons.
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winter55 wrote...
You utilize the rolling for slow ass weapons. As for turtling, you have to constantly keep guard up whenever you try to approach a monster since lance and gunlance can't dodge as well as other weapons.


Right, the problem is that you can't dodge while attacking, hence my annoyance with the fat fuckery and the extreme recovery time.
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Rbz wrote...
winter55 wrote...
You utilize the rolling for slow ass weapons. As for turtling, you have to constantly keep guard up whenever you try to approach a monster since lance and gunlance can't dodge as well as other weapons.


Right, the problem is that you can't dodge while attacking, hence my annoyance with the fat fuckery and the extreme recovery time.



Key to using greatsword and other slow weapons is timing. Greatsword is an opportunistic weapon that relies heavily on charged attacks. Doing combo will do you no good.
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Kaimax Best Master-San
Nice Guide for the Demo if you're interested
http://www.ign.com/blogs/dannyboy-uther/2013/02/22/monster-hunter-3-ultimate-basicsdemo-guide/

Rbz wrote...
Kaimax wrote...
armor skills


What's this about turtle powers? Demo doesn't allow customization.


Armor Skills, are skills fixed into one armor, each armor has different armor skills and skill points fixed to it. These are Passives Skills that can buff or debuff depending on the total of points. For example The Dual Sword Set armor for the demo is the Gobul Armor. It has these skills:
-Expert = 12 points = Critical Eye +1 (Raises Affinity/Critical chances)
-Swimming = 10 Points = Olympic Swimmer (Faster Swimming)
-Eating = 10 Points = Speed Eating +1 (Increase consumption speed)
-Recovery Speed = -10Points = Recovery Speed -1 (Slows Natural Recovery)

As you can see having a positive value means you get a buff, while a negative value will make it a debuff instead. But Usually you need 10 points to activate it. In Case of tje Expert Skill, in the full game you can increase it to 20 Points to get Critical Eye+3 for a 30% increase in critical.
In the full game some armors will have Gem Sockets. These Gem are used to raise/decrease the skill points, so to remove that debuff you just simply need to add a gem with Rec. Speed +1, by making it a -9 the debuff will not activate.

When you're experienced enough, you can mix and match armors for the armor skills you want to optimize.

The great sword and lances came with fat fuck armor that made maneuvering more tedious than actual combat.


The size of the armor itself does not affect any movement of the player, if you feel it's "slow" that's mostly affected by the weapon. Only Skills will affect movement, there are skills that adds the invulnerability time on the dodge rolls and there's one that adds it's distance.

The hard is against Plesioth. The demo is 20 minutes and I could swear this shit was rigged. Plesioth won't die and does nothing but fin slap when I'm next to him. Is sword and shield just the wrong type for this fuck?


Yes, some weapon types are more suitable for different kind of a monsters. But mostly follow the same strategy. If the plesioth is on land, wail on it's legs until it falls. If it's underwater, you just need to get used to water combat and aim at it's main body and head. 20 minutes is pretty hard for a total newbie, but don't worry ,like I said previously in the full game most fights have a 50 minute time limit.

What annoys me about combat is the inability to change direction mid combo. The maneuverability of S&S and DS is what makes them master race. They have quick hits, which allows dodging almost whenever.


Each weapons has it's pro and cons. SnS and DS are combo focused so they can easily change mid combo but both have shitty raw damage compared to the heavier and slower Weapons which has the higher damage per hit.
So it's Quality Vs Quantity, DPS vs Large Damage, 10 Hits with the DS Vs 3 hits for the Great Sword.
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Kaimax wrote...
Nice Guide for the Demo if you're interested
http://www.ign.com/blogs/dannyboy-uther/2013/02/22/monster-hunter-3-ultimate-basicsdemo-guide/


Know most of the info. Didn't know about stamina degradation and bomb/trap use. Guy calls greatsword misunderstood weap. I just can't understand how people tolerate the shit recovery time. Even the hammer attacks are more forgiving and I was somehow able to stun the snow hamster with 5x spin with finisher. Seriously, spin spamming is fun as fuck.
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Kaimax Best Master-San
Rbz wrote...
Guy calls greatsword misunderstood weap. I just can't understand how people tolerate the shit recovery time.


Yes, it's shit, that's why people who know how to use the GS learns when to attack and when to dodge. And most people proficient with it will use it's Charged attack more than just usual comboing. So, the great sword involves more thinking than most weapons because of it's shit speed. GS users needs to learn all the attack patterns for each monster, this is to find an opening when the monster attacks.

One example is one of my Great Sword Set. By utilizing the Focus, Evade +2 and Evade Extender Armor Skills (You'll learn about this later in the full game) I could make things much easier.
Focus -> Decreases the time needed to Charge an Attack
Evade +2 -> Increases invulnerability time when Rolling
Evade Extender -> Increases the distance of your dodge roll
So, with this set up I just need to find the right time where the monster stands still for more than 3 seconds and Attack with a Charge Level 3 which takes roughly 3 seconds, after the hit connects instantly roll to avoid the recovery time.

Outside of that I usually do a Hit&Roll Strategy and mostly do Unsheathe Attacks.
This is one of the play-styles that explains why people can tolerate the GS's Slow & encumbering Speed.

Not forcing you to use it or saying it's the greatest weapon in MH, but it's a different kind of Awesome.
GS guide, using the Armor set from the demo.
Spoiler:


Here's the DS and SnS guide
Spoiler:

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It's become evident I was too hasty in my judgement of the GS. Having played the demo a good number of times, I tried giving GS a second run.
Kaimax wrote...
Outside of that I usually do a Hit&Roll Strategy and mostly do Unsheathe Attacks.


This is basically how I played this time around. I started sheathing the motherfucker to regain maneuverability and was running circles around the snow hamster most of the battle. I immediately noticed that I can roll after attacks to cancel recovery. Using some of the tips from your previous link I was able to coax it into a bomb, break its ears, paralyze it for about 10 sec and generally dominate the cunt. There was a fun moment where it tried to crawl toward an exit and I ran ahead preparing a charged attack on its path. The X+A attack seems to have the longest recovery time. Perhaps it's just the nature of this particular enemy, but I was able to roughly simulate the S&S experience by simply sheathing and running; I never blocked. I don't block with S&S either, but I don't sheath with him.

Ranged is still garbage, though. I don't care how your friend managed to cheese through the fights, the 3DS controls are inaccurate and clunky as fuck.

Kaimax wrote...
GS guide, using the Armor set from the demo.
Spoiler:


Here's the DS and SnS guide
Spoiler:



Fortunately, I'm the type of person who reads manuals, so this is nothing new to me. I read some comments elsewhere about this demo and people seem to be oblivious to the "manual" button next to the run demo button. It basically tells the reader about all the weapons and their combos.

The full version is downloading now. Planning on playing DS, SA, and LS, assuming I can freely switch between weapon types. I imagine I would have to grind for the materials necessary to keep all 3 of them updated. Then again they're all slash so add hammer to that.
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Kaimax Best Master-San
Rbz wrote...
Ranged is still garbage, though. I don't care how your friend managed to cheese through the fights, the 3DS controls are inaccurate and clunky as fuck.


Well, it was never a beginners weapon to begin with, and each person has their preferences. And there's this: "Stagger locking"
Spoiler:


Planning on playing DS, SA, and LS, assuming I can freely switch between weapon types. I imagine I would have to grind for the materials necessary to keep all 3 of them updated. Then again they're all slash so add hammer to that.


You are given All the weapons at the start so don't worry about switching. Keep the ones you want to use and sell there rest for money. Yes, like and game that has crafting in it you need parts from monsters some rarer than the other and the RNG will sometimes be an ass about it. Just a small tip, Don't sell the talisman available to you in the beginning. Not that it's important but, It's because the Talisman for Auto Guard does not exist beyond that free talisman.
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Kaimax wrote...
Well, it was never a beginners weapon to begin with


I can get that with the GS, but it's not about being a newfag anymore, this is about shitty game design. Again, I'm talking about 3DS specifically here. (XL in particular. The game can't 3D properly either; the text looks blurry and aliasing is accentuated.) The controls are simply bad. It's like if a PC game forces mouse acceleration without the option to disable it. I'm sure there are uber pro noob molesters who would be able to acclimate themselves to the shit design and beat any game on impossible difficulty, but the design is still shit.

Kaimax wrote...
You are given All the weapons at the start so don't worry about switching. Keep the ones you want to use and sell there rest for money. Yes, like and game that has crafting in it you need parts from monsters some rarer than the other and the RNG will sometimes be an ass about it. Just a small tip, Don't sell the talisman available to you in the beginning. Not that it's important but, It's because the Talisman for Auto Guard does not exist beyond that free talisman.


Mkay, thanks for the heads up. Right now I'm trying to set up my guild card greeting but the game won't let me. "Please refrain from using content that . . . could infringe upon others' rights." How the fuck can that even be possible? Okay, I managed to trick the game into letting me say "I CAME TO FUCK BITCHESâ„¢." My title is "Jumbo for Lady" and I put my guy in a flex pose to show off his ass.
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Sounds like you're having a blast.

On a side note, I havent played MH3U in a couple months. Last I remember was completing the Gold Ian armor and thats it.
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Last I played is when I almost got my ass handed to me after I finished my Alatreon SA. That was a month back I think.
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Cruz Dope Stone Lion
Saw that it was 20usd so I might get it.

Anyone else play it/plan on playing it on the Wii U?
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AFAIK Dushy's playing it on Wii U. I am too but I can't connect to the internet directly.
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Kadushy Douchebag
I'm playing it on the WIi U... though I haven't got on in a few months.. I will eventually. Gotta finish that Agna armor.
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Kaimax Best Master-San
Lol, I'm already starting on a new character. Haven't made any Alatreon gears for my first one though. My best gears is the Hyuga Armor, Zinogre Z, Uragaan Z,Rath Soul and Agnaktor Z.
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I should post my clown suits later. Made some pretty ugly armor with great skills last time. Also I managed to make Grand Yamato set.
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Post dem clownsuits people

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I am HR115 @ 700 hrs.

So arone. So badu ruck wih drops and materiarus.

QQ

I cannot for the life of me kill g rank alatreon and jenny moron.

So I do failure runs.

I carve ala tails and have chacha with mock melnyx mask get whatever mats he can steal(BASED MOCK MASK GETTING ME EASY AZURE DRAGONSPHIRES).
Same thing with jenny. Mining back and having chacha try to get mohran braces (no luck).
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EmiyaKiritsugu wrote...
I am HR115 @ 700 hrs.

So arone. So badu ruck wih drops and materiarus.

QQ

I cannot for the life of me kill g rank alatreon and jenny moron.

So I do failure runs.

I carve ala tails and have chacha with mock melnyx mask get whatever mats he can steal(BASED MOCK MASK GETTING ME EASY AZURE DRAGONSPHIRES).
Same thing with jenny. Mining back and having chacha try to get mohran braces (no luck).


Pls die.
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winter55 wrote...
EmiyaKiritsugu wrote...
I am HR115 @ 700 hrs.

So arone. So badu ruck wih drops and materiarus.

QQ

I cannot for the life of me kill g rank alatreon and jenny moron.

So I do failure runs.

I carve ala tails and have chacha with mock melnyx mask get whatever mats he can steal(BASED MOCK MASK GETTING ME EASY AZURE DRAGONSPHIRES).
Same thing with jenny. Mining back and having chacha try to get mohran braces (no luck).


Pls die.


Whut. Me not get you. I'm telling you I'm failing... And arone.

QQ