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Cruz Dope Stone Lion
Yeah paid online is definitely something that's keeping me doubtful. Nintendo hasn't been good with their online and them charging isn't exactly an indicator that they've improved. I wouldn't mind if they had Melee HD with amazing netcode though. I know that I'll definitely use it for that and Splatoon.

And the battery life is a bit troubling but I can't really expect more without making the console even more expensive. They should have at the very least given people the option to replace/swap batteries. 2.5 to 6.5...Well with type C usb maybe I'll be about to power it with an external battery if I do decide to play it outside of the dock.

Other than that it seems fine. I know people are giving it shit for the release line up but most consoles don't have great launch titles. That being said by summer it's going to have Breathe of the wild, Arms, BOMBERMAN (Konami actually giving fans classics), Mario Kart 8.2, Rime, Disgea 5, Splatoon 2 & PuyoPuyo Tetris. There are others but they're only Japanese (not that it matters because region locking is gone) or games that don't really appeal to me. I hope they open up to Indies really fucking fast just to have something more there. That and the virtual console.
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luinthoron High Priest of Loli
I really can't say the battery life is that bad. It's a much more powerful console with a battery life at worst at the level of the 3DS, at best far better. Nothing to complain about there, and most likely I'd use it connected to the TV anyway. And since we've seen that it can be charged while playing without using the dock as well, it only truly matters when you want to take it outside for a longer time.
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Cruz Dope Stone Lion


A decent critical view on what we know about it.


I'm gonna be honest though. Having to use your phone for voice chat is frustrating.
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FinalBoss #levelupyourgrind
Okay here's my assessment of the switch with a final grade:

Pros

>Console/Handheld Hybrid
>Strong 1st party support
>Possible okay 3rd party support
>Pro controller (not included)
>Cartridges
>SD card compatible
>Region free

Cons

>Weak specs
>32 gigs of internal storage
>a 30% drop in performance when system is off the dock
>2-6 hour battery life
>Paid Online service
>Small Gimmicky main controllers
>No backwards compatibility

Neutral [won't affect final grade]

>Different colors to chose from
>Multiplayer (up to 8) via wifi



Final Grade: C+


Conclusion: Probably won't get it, cause I don't want to pay for online services. I'll have to use other people as guinea pigs before making a decision.
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Cruz Dope Stone Lion
I wouldn't say it has weak specs. I know on the surface the value proposition doesn't seem worth it since the sxbone and ps4 pro are at the same price (well were in the holiday season) but again it's comparable to the razor tablets. 720p screen isn't bad either.

I know nintendo wants to push this as their main console but it really is a handheld with console like features.
If they release a true successor to the 3ds I'll take this comment back though. I'd be pissed too because that means they don't believe in this while splitting development cost for 2 consoles, which fucked them over big time this generation.
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FinalBoss wrote...
>No backwards compatibility

I feel it's unlikely we'll see much of this on any new consoles in future.
PS4 didn't have it unless you paid to stream which isn't what I call proper backwards compatible.
One was the only console to come close and that's only a selection.

To me Switch looks better than the Wii U but I'm still not put off by it. Nintendo still seem to fixated on these weird controller gimmicks and I'm the old fashioned type that just wants a typical controller. The whole aspect of being a home console and portable I think is brilliant, but that battery life really doesn't sound great. Along side the 30% power drop.
If like Cruz said they're pushing this as more of a handheld console then... Eh.
They may well bring out a revision though like Sony and Microsoft do that'll iron out some of those kinks.
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FinalBoss #levelupyourgrind
Anyone who bought a switch experiencing any of those hardware defects that seem to be all the rave?
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623 FAKKU QA
FinalBoss wrote...
Anyone who bought a switch experiencing any of those hardware defects that seem to be all the rave?

Nothing wrong with mine. Also, pretty sure that screen scratch thing is only happening to idiots. However the joy con straps are shitty and do get really stuck if you put them on the wrong way.
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animefreak_usa Child of Samael
623 wrote...
FinalBoss wrote...
Anyone who bought a switch experiencing any of those hardware defects that seem to be all the rave?

Nothing wrong with mine. Also, pretty sure that screen scratch thing is only happening to idiots. However the joy con straps are shitty and do get really stuck if you put them on the wrong way.

The screen scratch thing is because the dock is shit. You can fix it by using either a dock cozy or screen protector. ALL YOUR FUCKING TOUCH SCREENS SHOULD HAVE THE FUCKING 10 DOLLAR SCREEN PROTECTORS. Seriously a piece of plastic is cheaper than paying for a new one or replacing screens on your expensive mobile devices.
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Smuggins Just Some Guy
I think I am an oddity in that I got the WiiU. I have to say, totally worth it for me. Playing WindWakerHD, is almost as good as reading Fakku.

Seriously though, WiiU had awful marketing, I can understand why people didn't think it was a whole new system. I sure didn't. Audiences cannot understand anything besides [Name of system] X, where X is 1-10. But RE on WiiU was fun and great looking. Plus Steam Heist and several others. I have probably 14 WiiU games and I am pretty happy with them.

For me, I won't pick up the Switch until it gets Netflix. I used the Wii and now the WiiU as my entertainment console. Everyday that thing is on for movies, web browsing, or games. I personally am super excited to see the Switch come though if it means the death of the DS.

Don't get me wrong. The DS is a great system, with some awesome games, but I am a couch gamer. I cannot play games with my partner if we are both looking at a tiny DS screen. And a game like Professor Layton is begging for a couch experience, where you have a peanut gallery or spectators to play with. That is the true potential of the switch. To get both the best games of the handheld and the best of the consoles.

There are many DS games I would buy, things that could easily be on the WiiU (looking at you Bravely Default) but aren't. So, my hope is for a social gaming renaissance.
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623 FAKKU QA
Smuggins wrote...
For me, I won't pick up the Switch until it gets Netflix. I used the Wii and now the WiiU as my entertainment console. Everyday that thing is on for movies, web browsing, or games. I personally am super excited to see the Switch come though if it means the death of the DS.

Unfortunately, I don't think that will happen for a little while because I recall Reggie saying that right now their focus is on games and other things that will separate them from others while services like Netflix you can already get on, like, 10 devices.
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Smuggins Just Some Guy
623 wrote...
...things that will separate them from others while services like Netflix you can already get on, like, 10 devices.


That is fair and I am willing to wait. I think though, that cuts off the portion of the market that considers those "things" standard now. Like if you bought a car and it didn't have power steering because they are working on things to differentiate themselves.

I hesitate to use power steering as example, because for some, netflix might be more like 'powered windows'. But I feel most people feel that consoles have become media centers, vs game only centers (I certainly do). But like I said, it isn't like I'll never buy a Switch. I waited almost two years for the WiiU as well. Got a great bundle.

One thing I do hope Nintendo changes its mind on is backwards compatibility. With all the consoles having usb ports (which I assume the switch does), they could create a 'emulator' hardware device, that provides the hardware to read the game. This would allow people to buy whichever parts they need for their games (like if you have N64 games, but no Wii/GameCube/WiiU games.

Until recently, I didn't realize that not all Wii's could play GameCube discs... :(
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luinthoron High Priest of Loli
Smuggins wrote...
One thing I do hope Nintendo changes its mind on is backwards compatibility. With all the consoles having usb ports (which I assume the switch does), they could create a 'emulator' hardware device, that provides the hardware to read the game. This would allow people to buy whichever parts they need for their games (like if you have N64 games, but no Wii/GameCube/WiiU games.


This is something I would love to see in the future as well, yes, at least for Wii and Wii U. And yes, the Switch does have USB ports - well, more exactly, the dock does, but you would not carry such additional hardware with you in handheld mode anyway.
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FinalBoss #levelupyourgrind
Damn, Switch is the second best selling console at launch. If they had more systems in stock, it probably would've surpassed Ps4.
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623 FAKKU QA
FinalBoss wrote...
Damn, Switch is the second best selling console at launch. If they had more systems in stock, it probably would've surpassed Ps4.

Yeah, it's doing really well. And while many naysayers continue to change their story from "It'll be dead at launch lmao" to "Well the Wii U did good at the beginning too, just wait a few months", I have a feeling that the influx of games will continue to keep sales relatively steady. Mario Kart, ARMS, Splatoon 2, Fire Emblem Warriors, then Mario Odyssey during the holiday season should prevent major droughts. Even if you're not into the games I just listed, some people will be and that will maintain sales. E3 should have some interesting announcements as well.
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animefreak_usa Child of Samael
623 wrote...
FinalBoss wrote...
Damn, Switch is the second best selling console at launch. If they had more systems in stock, it probably would've surpassed Ps4.

Yeah, it's doing really well. And while many naysayers continue to change their story from "It'll be dead at launch lmao" to "Well the Wii U did good at the beginning too, just wait a few months", I have a feeling that the influx of games will continue to keep sales relatively steady. Mario Kart, ARMS, Splatoon 2, Fire Emblem Warriors, then Mario Odyssey during the holiday season should prevent major droughts. Even if you're not into the games I just listed, some people will be and that will maintain sales. E3 should have some interesting announcements as well.


Except the naysayers are correct. Do you want busted joy controllers, warpped over heated consoles, a dock made by blind guy who can't read blueprints by people who can't measure and a cheap CPU under powered just because they wanted it out before the better cpu was out? V1 is shit. Never buy version one. Same with xbox Scorpio/ps5/iphone7. In other news my s8 runs like a beast and Nintendo is a fucking retarded incest mushhead run abortion surviving only by Mario and Link market power. They made a great cheap hit like the NES classic, limited stock, made scalpers a lota cash, cancel a cheap easy made console, and made the scalpers more fucking cash. YOU CAN LITERALLY MAKE THE SAME THING WITH A RASPBERRY PI. The nes emu they use is basically the same as retropie.
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623 FAKKU QA
animefreak_usa wrote...
623 wrote...
FinalBoss wrote...
Damn, Switch is the second best selling console at launch. If they had more systems in stock, it probably would've surpassed Ps4.

Yeah, it's doing really well. And while many naysayers continue to change their story from "It'll be dead at launch lmao" to "Well the Wii U did good at the beginning too, just wait a few months", I have a feeling that the influx of games will continue to keep sales relatively steady. Mario Kart, ARMS, Splatoon 2, Fire Emblem Warriors, then Mario Odyssey during the holiday season should prevent major droughts. Even if you're not into the games I just listed, some people will be and that will maintain sales. E3 should have some interesting announcements as well.


Except the naysayers are correct. Do you want busted joy controllers, warpped over heated consoles, a dock made by blind guy who can't read blueprints by people who can't measure and a cheap CPU under powered just because they wanted it out before the better cpu was out? V1 is shit. Never buy version one. Same with xbox Scorpio/ps5/iphone7. In other news my s8 runs like a beast and Nintendo is a fucking retarded incest mushhead run abortion surviving only by Mario and Link market power. They made a great cheap hit like the NES classic, limited stock, made scalpers a lota cash, cancel a cheap easy made console, and made the scalpers more fucking cash. YOU CAN LITERALLY MAKE THE SAME THING WITH A RASPBERRY PI. The nes emu they use is basically the same as retropie.

The consoles aren't overheating.

Also this same Youtuber has a good analysis on the NES Classic.
Spoiler:

TL;DR They were making maybe $1 profit per unit and it was used solely for marketing. It served its purpose to get people hyped for the Nintendo brand to sell the Switch, it worked, they don't need it anymore.
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animefreak_usa Child of Samael

Better reviewer and it cost 15$ to make a classic. All consoles don't make profit. The games is the profitable. They're lucky if it breaks even, but the classic makes profit. 69-15=54$ no advertisement. Even at the wholesale price of 25$... That more than what they will make on the switch or any console.
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623 FAKKU QA
animefreak_usa wrote...

I watch ReviewTech and Rich saying "It's overheating" isn't as believable as actually putting a thermometer in there and getting the temperatures in real time. I'm more likely to believe numbers than guesswork.
animefreak_usa wrote...
Better reviewer and it cost 15$ to make a classic. All consoles don't make profit. The games is the profitable. They're lucky if it breaks even, but the classic makes profit. 69-15=54$ no advertisement. Even at the wholesale price of 25$... That more than what they will make on the switch or any console.

This random guy's assessment doesn't include the HDMI cable, AC adapter, controller, or licensing costs for many of the games. Capcom and KONAMI own many of those games.
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FinalBoss #levelupyourgrind
Interesting, some people here watch reviewtechusa, although I prefer Stonefoxmedia for the shits and giggles.

Anyways, I'm glad Nintendo is doing well. This is coming from a sony fanboy. I just hope it doesn't go to their heads and they start acting stupid. #3rdpartysupportorbust
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