[Locked] "Do not insult or harass other members?"

I'm just wondering if this General Rule.

Do not insult or harass other members.
-Insults, harassment, flaming, trolling, baiting or other similar abusive behavior towards other members of the Forum will not be tolerated.

Does this rule apply to the "Incoherent Babbling" section?
I constantly see alot of members breaking this rule towards new members and just wondering does that rule even apply to that section of the forums or is it a "Post at your risk" type of section?

EDIT* Alot of harassment from "Incoherent Babbling" even caused a member to leave this site.

While yes, IB does remain the home of insults, if any insults are truly life-threatening, seriously out of place, or not made in good fun (or at a new user's gullibility) then they usually result in some moderated action.

That said, yeah, IB can be tough, so if you can't take the heat, kitchen, etc.
Still, if you keep your cool, roll with the punches and remember this is just the internet, you should do fine.

The recent user departure seems like it was due to the user not being able to take said jokes, which is unfortunate, but at the same time, ultimately their decision to leave. No one is forcing you to post; if you want to just get comfortable first, try lurking without posting to get a feel for the atmosphere here, or post in Chat Topics for fun.

I'm in no way condoning serious bullying: if you don't like what people are saying about you in a thread, calm yourself, and just depart from it. Short of you (in thr process of speaking on the forums) breaking the rules yourself, there's nothing that they can do to YOU that will get you banned. Worst that can happen is some minus rep, but that's just e-penor anyhow.

In short, think of IB like /b/: there can be rules, but it moves fast enough that they are often not strongly enforced except in severe cases.

I did observe this also
thankfully not one or minimal trolling came to me

some members are just being a dick and an ass to naive newcomers , insinuating and showing "dominance"(of course it doesn't help that the new ones retaliate with more anger and bashing). poor people...

edit: also ganging up and "kicking them when they're down". It's already hard finding a place in a new community(as said this is the internet but, really?!). and it's not in IB alone, I have seen it in other forums as well.

Could you give us a link regarding on that incident?

The thread "Retribution for the lurkers" In some form the user "Kai Shinza" was some what apologising for acting like a "NewFag" but after that he desperately tries to defend himself from multiple users trolling and harassing him.

Also I'm not being harassed by anybody, I just feel sympathetic towards new users who get trolled on for no reason.

I wonder if you came across the user they call Illumia, or seen the crazy antics of the furfag known as "Ronnie".

However, I am now curious about where this "other" insulting happens. What do you mean by that, specifically?

Nah, they aren't trolling him for no reason.

and oh, IP check.

I'm a bit lazy to try to link the threads here but the best example was already given by shin

I am glad that I did not come across Illumia and Ronnie at their worst times but seeing it from a stranger's point of view. makes me think and see that the ones ganging up are being the bitch. (and it didn't help that a newcomer also added to the bullying bunch).

the ones that you were involved were with meow. I know she kinda deserved it though, but one stern warning should have been enough. also the one when someone posted a link to a flashgame.(I didn't want to mention this because some other person already told you off).

also in LRR. one said a problem about being heartbroken and some idiot has the gall to post about not a single fuck was given(good thing someone has also told him off). and also this one girl who had double posted in LRR.

PS: I am not attacking you,
you asked and I gave it
the point is the "insults" and the bashing. there are some more but I'm really lazy.

Well from my point of view he never harassed anybody and non of his threads are harassing other users so their were no use for harsh treatment.
Such as SlyNinjas, xVictorKaiserX, TheGrimReaper, and SovietArcher

Ahh, you don't view their posts as "shitposts". Shitposts are mostly like this thread of mine

Well I'm sympathetic towards most users threads. There are some threads that seem to unnecessary or idiotic but I never trolled on the user merely because I see no purpose. I see it as someone who is trying to have fun on the forums, but everybody else gets a bit to serious.

Can't explain well since I'm not so great at descriptions ^.^"



I'm going to post this again....
"Also I'm not being harassed by anybody, I just feel sympathetic towards new users who get trolled on for no reason."

Please try and stay on topic -.-

But things like that don't usually happen in LR&R. Most of the trolling/verbal abuse happens in IB and Random threads that should be in IB.

Sympathy is a type of butthurt as butthurt is just negatively condensed emotion. Even if you don't personally receive any attacks or commentary on whatsoever thread, your care shows you indeed are butthurt.

The solution is quite easy: follow the crowd and post on already made threads. Why are we obligated to give newfags the right of opinion?

IB is an equal opportunity shithole.

The solution to people getting bashed on the internet is just posting smarter. People just need to lurk for a while to get a feel for what a not-shitty post looks like. Worked wonders for me.

I'm not "Butthurt" about anything and even if I was it wouldn't matter here? I'm trying to ask if the rule "Do not insult or harass other members. " applies in "Incoherent Babbling" and by the looks of it your trying to find a way to troll or turn people against me. If your going to make unnecessary comments please just stop posting in this thread. -.-

Ideally, yes, that rule would apply to IB. In reality it seems that IB is the one section of the forum where that does not apply.

I'll address the other first.

• Yes, the double-posting is an issue everywhere, and unfortunately, some of us get very tired of it. It's only common sense that, when you join a forum like this, you must understand the rules, and when you break them, whether or not intentionally, someone's going to call you out on it. In fact, I had an experience in LRR because of this. I asked a user to stop multi-posting, and what do I get?
  
  "Don't like my commenting? Don't post in my shit."
  
  That was uncalled for. Granted, I probably should have stated it's against the rules beforehand, but I'm kind of tired stating them over and over again, when in reality, as a user, you need to have glanced through them at least once. I didn't even post anything insulting; just simply said stop.

• I... don't actually remember the flash game incident. Sorry. :S

• The matter of the "not giving a fuck"... yeah, it's pathetic to see that, but this is the internet, and trolls will exist everywhere. Some people, I swear... when I see their posts, I feel like they made it their mission in life to fuck with us just for kicks. If posts like these appear, that are not only out of place but also really demeaning, don't hesitate to report immediately. A mod can at least delete the comment, and discussion can continue.

• OK, this goes to both you and Shin, and it's going to seem very surprising, especially coming from me.
  
  I am on IB's side in this fight. Yes, even I will admit, they say fag a lot, but it's only because it's getting unoriginal now. I now believe that users like these need to be talked down to like this, because, I'm gonna be very blunt now, being nice and holding their hands all the time is worthless, especially if the user shows absolutely NO improvement in their posts or behaviour.
  
  
  Spoiler:

  Meow is the biggest culprit of this part specifically. Here's the real story: she comes into the forums acting like some ditzy girl who can't do shit, and actually PMs me for help. Believe it or not, she wants me to get her a new avatar. She even gave me her username and password for accessing her account and doing it, but I instead gave a more step-by-step process on how to do it, though I still had to pick an avatar for her. That was just degrading, believe me, but it didn't stop there. After I helped, she kept PMing me, thanking me and saying she'll do anything to repay. After some chatter and what not, it turned into a cyber, after I kept saying I didn't want it. She still sent PMs from time to time, but I ignored them. When I asked around, though, it turns out she was trying to pull this same slut act with others. Yeah, that's when I decided I was through with her.
  
  
  Now, I'm actually going to detail you on the disasters that were Ronnie and Illumia, so you can have some context as to WHY we did what we did. I'll put them in spoilers, so it's your choice whether you want to read them.
  
  
  Spoiler:

  Illumia, or Jen as she calls herself, introduced herself OK enough, though her grammar was atrocious! Anyway, she made the mistake of coming into IB, and after talking too much like and idiot and thinking she's always been a welcome part of the community, people talked a little shit about her. Any regular user would have gone away and lurked more, understanding that they were not yet ready for it. What did she do? She persisted, made alternate accounts, and spammed threads in IB saying "fuck you Waar". I don't know about you, but that's against the rules, fomr where I stand. That was her first offence. You've seen the others.
  
  
  
  Spoiler:

  Ronnie... oh God, where do I start with this little twit? Not only posts stupid, but he was actually banned once. For being underage, I believe. He then actually made one alternate account at a time trying to hide his real identity, but failing miserably. After the 3rd or so time, it was an IP ban, but surprise surprise, he actually evaded that, and after a while, got butthurt, insulted US for having no life, left his Xbox IGN, and left. He returned with yet ANOTHER account, and even made a thread detailing how he changed his IP in order to evade the ban (someone made that thread is all I clearly remember), which is yet another offence.
  
  
  So yes, for the cases presented, I firmly believe that we were, I guess you can say, "justified". I'm apologize for the long rant and the needless "whiteknighting" of IB, but I couldn't stand seeing cases presented without proper context and background given on them.