[Locked] Front Page Overflowing With Book-Purchases?

Only issue with public forums is anyone can give their opinion, whether it is good, bad, or poorly worded lol. Makes for interesting talks though (^^)

To expand upon this, change may not satisfy everyone, but as you said YQII it will happen in due time. I think just making the fakku books stand out more as a purchase rather then readable content is a good enough start. As things progress, better ideas may come along and be implemented, though I think for some the whole notion of "having to pay for porn" is something people wish to hate or avoid. Though honestly it really isn't that hard to get to the free content on here so to some such a complaint is a bit humorous. I sort of relate it to someone who is too lazy to go up to the TV and flip through it manually because they've lost their remote.

To the OP you also have to realize that when people pay for a service they expect something good in return. Just because you are not happy with how things are for you, those that did pay for the books are enjoying going onto the front pages and reading what they purchased. So even though you are disgruntled, there will be more preference towards the buyer. It's not to say your opinions do not matter since other's have made this comment, but you can't expect things to change for you in a day or two. The consumer will come first since the priority is higher for them. For now just chill on here, surf the free shit, and see what happens or go to another hentai site if this bothers you too much.

Yeah, the product its worth something. It just doesnt belong on the damned frontpage, right in the face of everyone. The vast majority of users are free, and constnat advertisement pressure on the front page is just not ok. I dont care about this beeing a bigger business now, thats just not an excuse for the speed you engageded in chagings this to favour paying users while not seemingsly lossing intrest in the masses which get you clicks and fame. Calling this ridiculous is a poor excuse for an argument against improving the situation for the majority.


Yes, sure, but not at the cost of preussuring everyone else. Easy Acess is through a feature like the "Favorites" or your paid for producst one the store page. Not the Mainpage, which should be Fakku!'s face to the world. And the world as a majority has not snatched herself one of the deals on the frontpage. The frontpage should be tailored for the majority, not the minor elite of paying customers, those are not the ones Fakku!'s owes its postion on the net today.

I don't think you understand, this is how a business is like. Sure it's annoying to people that this content is not viewable to those who don't pay, but to those that wish to pay or may become curious to look into buying it they want to find it easily and quickly so thus it is on the front page for everyone to see. If you go to porn sites where they say "FREE PORN!!" then you click on the thing you want to watch, but all you get is a banner that states "must subscribed to view or pay a xxx fee" then yeah it's not technically free and yes it is annoying to an extent. Luckily fakku is both free and for purchasing content, they may go more towards the latter at some point, but if they do and the market is sustainable then that's what happens.

Other then that, yes the community has made this place what it is today and those that run this place take pride in that, but those that support will continue to support regardless, those that don't care just stay here for whatever reason and do what they please, other's that hate this type of change will most likely move on.

It's really not that big of a deal and the community you speak of is only one part of the whole, it may be a majority or it may be a minority, but the truth to the matter is "money talks" and it always will. If you are able to make enough on such a thing, then those who pay will receive service, those who don't pay will be heard, but just not as quickly. It's not like they are left in the dust, but how would you feel if you payed for something and you got the same treatment as another person who paid nothing? It's not worth it. I don't really care about such a fact, because I just accept it. There are bigger things in life then porn so to me this isn't the end of the world lol.

Yeah, and thats what a human beeing should not just accept. Money talks is not a reason to make a decision like that, if you claim to honour your community. You cant do both. And you dont have to do that to be successful moneywise. Make money, thats a good thing, it keeps the page growing. But dont make it so that the money means more to the page than the community, made of mostly free users, that might contribute said money. There is no reason to not sepperate storepage and frontpage other than "We dont care for the free users." At least have the courage to point it out like that. And do that on the frontpage, if integrety means something to you...

I'm realistic, nothing wrong with that and I don't run the place so my words shouldn't mean much to people, my opinion is just one of many and if people don't like them I don't mind. I think in the future there will be a better balance such as separating pages, but even without purchasing things I never found it that difficult to just pass by the bought content to the free stuff, may take me 5 more seconds, but idc.

Also my integrity goes towards more important matters then porn. I find sex and porn to be a luxury; I may want it when I do or live without it (I love hentai but it's not the end of the world if I can't view it freely lol). There are bigger issues in the world then having to buy porn or seeing adds for buying it on the front page of a hentai site.

Double maitence error post how I hate you so (-m-)b

If jacob didn't care about the free users then nothing would be free. The fact we still have content means he still cares about getting the content. He didn't have a choice about the Wani content because we are stealing someone elses work and making it free. We are all pirates no matter what we think we're doing. Shit there only been a few issues of japanese manga or doujins because we're not in the minds or bottomline with the corps and magazines or with the artists. Problem is the otakus are now searching the web for their content so not to pay the high cost of animu nor those lines at comiket/akiba.

Now the front page has a few ads for the books he fronted the cost for so we can still have them onsite in some form. Except 5 secs on google you can find the old fansubs or even fakku own digital rips. SO you can still be free to read. He even said there nothing you can do since you know the internet is wide and hidden. Just because a small inconvenience to just back space or just have a running knowledge of the five current books are lock for paid users isn't that much of a hindrance.

Maybe Jacob needs to make it icon to be paid view or somehow make it different for free or subscribed. That his choice. I don't use fakku for hentai. I just support it on the shit i like to own. I could just get all of this for free if i want. Google is magical. [size=4]Except for my cute crossdresser....... I CAN'T WIN THE GAME.[/h]

The "you" was never aimed at you as a person Misaki Chi, take no offense please^^
Being realistic shoudd never stop you from admireing to change the status quo for the better, not caring never brought anything good.
But about the integrety issue: the same standards should be held up for this community as for every other gathering of people. Therefore, integrety does matter here, even if its just a bloody porn page ;)
And beeing realistic shoudd never stop you from admireing to change the status quo for the better.

No offense taken. Honestly I'm really easy going with things, but that doesn't translate into some of my comments sadly lol. Sometimes people take me too seriously, but that's the internet for you my silly nerdy charm get's lost with my debative wording (can't even make terrible jokes that make others want to say "there there, A for effort").

I do admire change, but I just speak my stance and if I'm wrong then so be it. If I'm right, cool. I am not one to actually push for change, never been much of an activist unless its over an issue I have passion for and I can help change to a degree such as with the healthcare system (personally work in the medical profession). Things such as ads on the front page don't matter to me in the slightest, so that's why I'm not against changing it, but if it changes then it's cool.

Other then that animefreak makes a good point and I'm just going to see what happens.

If that was the case, we'd do the opposite of what you're suggesting: just have our books on the front page and add a "Free" tab at the top.

The front page is a feed for new content, free or not. The newest books are stickied at the top, but individual chapters aren't favored over other content.

>So lazy he couldn't scroll down
>Thinks the free content is rightly free
>"The face of Fakku! to the world"...pfft!

Wow, three claps for you. Here's a thing, I paid for those books, and I want them to be there, you have to please me, since you're so dead set on them pleasing you 100%, I'll be too (we have equal rights). How about that? This situation right here is a compromise, you get some, I'll get some. My part is that I have to pay for it, but I get served first. You didn't, so scroll down.

Edit: You see, there are people who can pay for it and choose not to, some of them are actually mature enough to be thankful that content are still free and thankfully capable of scrolling down, or just not bitch about hitting backspace (Or find hentai from other place). There are others who can't but as I stated, understands DMCA and has been following the news about Wani, so they know that the Books are good development for Fakku! and a proud moment for Jacob. What does that leave us with? Not true pirates, not underaged kids in this site, although they might be complaining too, but people who truly believes that their good is the good of the community."The majority"? "Intergrity"? Did Jake make a promise somewhere that this is his image? As I said already, everyone is willing to compromise, but it ends as a little "Excuse me, you don't mind if I need a tag that said need-purchase on the books?" "Okay" situation, not "You're disregarding the users and pressuring them HURRDURRR!!!"

There, thanks for proving my point...

Paying does not make you worth more, and if it does, thats just a wrong situation. You should get additional stuff for paying, absolutley, and I admire you for supporting Fakku! in this way. But that should not mean making the expirience more inconvinient for all the free user by default at the same time. Thats just not right, point.

I would be equally pleased if there was a Free-Tab, moving the purchase-stuff to another tab was the first of the two solutions coming to my mind, because it was the closest thing to situation before the ads came.
I just want the two things to be seperated so everyone gets what he wants. It does not matter which one is the actual frontpage, the books just shouldn't be your face all the time if i already decided i do not want to purchase them.
Btw, English is, pretty obvious, not my first language, so i might come about much more butthurt-induced than I actually am.

Still, thanks for trying to ridicule my point. So much about maturity.Hurdur.

EDIT:Okay, Jacob has mentioned in another thread that a dedicated Book-page will be added. Thats super awesome, i appreciate it. But the Books will still be on the front page, without a the mentionig of a page without the books. So no way to not have to view them all the time? Why?

Got that off Tech, it's his copyright. And I'm sorry that you felt uncomfortable with seeing purchase things on the front page, do you get annoyed seeing food pictures in a restaurant too? It's in your face, it's recommended to you by waiters and it costs you money. You see, free stuff on the site makes people think they're entitled to it. Now think of it this way, Jacob has already support the idea of making it noticeable to users, THAT's pleasing everyone (INCLUDING Jacob and the people who's working for the site, since it's easier). You can enjoy free stuff, you just need to look for it. I can enjoy my stuff without looking, I had to pay for it. I paid for the advertising when I paid for the book, I'd like to see Jacob advertising it properly. (Be active, I know moving your fingers is hard, but be active)

Again, "Their good is the good of the community"

Do you attempt to get my point? Is it just "I paid, all is well, i dont care for everyone else" for you? Please say its not that, you seam to be WAY above that kind on bullcrap^^
And stop trying to put if off to the simple nonsense that Im to lazy to scroll the bloody frontpage a few inches down. Thats obviously not my issue. The situation at the moment is absolutley easy to handle, no problem. I just fear it will get worse over time. Thats the natural development for stuff like thist, and it rareley ends with a happy community.
Again, i have nothing against Ads, we need them to keep it all running, thats ok. But the density of advertisement should not hinder the normal users much.

All is fine indeed, if you're worried, then here's the catch. No users would be sooo annoyed that they'll leave just because they see purchased contents and affect the community(simply because we're not like Crunchyroll or Doujin-Moe). Even if there is, I don't know what to say except...Good riddance? You said that's it nothing to you, so it shouldn't be much for the others too. There's only gonna be 3-4 books a month, and with the way Jake is dispersing the release, there shouldn't be too much trouble get free contents, I didn't see a difference since I'm still using Fakku for hentai (Freaky-sensei, spare my anus). I'm liking the idea of not having the CHAPTERS on the front page, but I need my books there. That's the face of Fakku! (And the pride of the page too), we're a legit business now.

This is obviously not the case because, if you notice, Renai Sample and Puni Kano are no longer at the top of the home page. And the individual chapters are treated as normal so eventually they get pushed down like any other.

You say obviously, i say temporarily.
Sure, at the moment all is well. I just hope Fakku keeps this stance.
Call me pessimistic, but were's the border between pessimism and reality.
Damnd, thats not as deep as it sounded in my head.

OP had an interesting idea of having a "hide" button for paid content. I have no idea whether or not such a function would be easy, hard, or even practical to implement-- but should Fakku ever have the resources to do something like that, it might prove to be a useful compromise.

Something else that might also solve the irritation some users have with having all the paid content at the top would be to draw some kind of a clear dividing line between the paid content vs. otherwise-- visually splitting the page into two sections, with the paid content at the top and all the free stuff in the lower section.

Just brainstorming.

If it was easy for the users, I'd like it, but all the collapsing and hiding might be a bit heavy loading for iPad and phone users.

But I won't assume so.

edit: why don't we just put purchase-required in the description. Makes it easy for those who READ before they click, those who doesn't, well...too bad. Then not have the chapters in the front page just the books and there, neat and easy!

I would just rather have the bg tinted with a light different color. No need to change the current format and it would be easy to tell apart