[Locked] Front Page Overflowing With Book-Purchases?
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W.O.C183
always fapping
deadsx wrote...
Fakku Gold Option to hide Fakku books releases?Fockin' nice bussiness m8! I approve this message!
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Pay to not have to see the "pay for this"- stuff all the time? You think thats elegant? Thats the way of the Mob, if you know what i mean, sry...
I really try to not be a pain in the ass, but all this arguments seem to be just pro-company as far as i can see :(
I really try to not be a pain in the ass, but all this arguments seem to be just pro-company as far as i can see :(
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animefreak_usa
Child of Samael
Der Hexer wrote...
Pay to not have to see the "pay for this"- stuff all the time? You think thats elegant? Thats Mob-Style, sry...I really try to not be a pain in the ass, but all this arguemtn are just pro-company as far as i can see :(
Because most of us are use to paying for stuff. You think all the free mangos and doujins are just from friendly nerds doing it for the fun or cleaning and typesetting scans or scanning books on there dime. A lot of the stuff you read is commission or pay for from the user pool and/or donations/ad fees to the nips for raws.
Nothing is free. Someone had to pay for something. Even your animu rips are ripping paid content or paid disks.
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W.O.C183
always fapping
Der Hexer wrote...
Pay to not have to see the "pay for this"- stuff all the time? You think thats elegant? Thats the way of the Mob, if you know what i mean, sry...I really try to not be a pain in the ass, but all this arguments seem to be just pro-company as far as i can see :(
Tell me when was Fakku not a company (I didn't donate and paid for it to not become a company). Don't worry, your comment section community will be unhinged as far as Waar has said. But hiding Books from the first page is a specific need that not many asked for (except for you and KingBeowulf) so we can't just turn the whole site around. It is then considered a paid-for-priviledge. (although I won't use it anyway, Jake you better not include this in my bill when I subscribe)
"Money makes the world go 'round and 'round" ~Fighting Dragons
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animefreak_usa wrote...
Der Hexer wrote...
Pay to not have to see the "pay for this"- stuff all the time? You think thats elegant? Thats Mob-Style, sry...I really try to not be a pain in the ass, but all this arguemtn are just pro-company as far as i can see :(
Because most of us are use to paying for stuff. You think all the free mangos and doujins are just from friendly nerds doing it for the fun or cleaning and typesetting scans or scanning books on there dime. A lot of the stuff you read is commission or pay for from the user pool and/or donations/ad fees to the nips for raws.
Nothing is free. Someone had to pay for something. Even your animu rips are ripping paid content or paid disks.
Certain stuff isn't available where your live and in your language? I don't think that's something wrong. Fakku Books is actually worthy and pretty impressive because they are bringing the product to English, with amazing quality and even paperback ship (I'll highlight quality). As for the stuff that isn't Fakku Books, I don't see anything wrong with that. Yes, I know fans often pays for translate the stuff and so (I've translated stuff, too), but that's under the premise of "from fans to fans", and yes, it's mainly from friendly nerds who, actually are expecting to inflate their ego by doing so (successfully) and mere fun, and some for the love to art. As with any hobby they cover their own waste, with some donations between in the bigger groups.
Note: All you're paying of at ripping anime is for the television and Internet (in other words, nothing additional). Aside Simulcast rips (and just sometimes, some rippers works with free months offers given by the whole staff), who often have a distasteful quality to be worth to be brought for some (I may make a case for some series from Crunchy, just some, and then some just download the episode while paying, too). DVD/BD rips are paid, though, and if it was a localized rip it's pretty awful, non-simulcast often have worthy quality, so it's mean to hinder them unless it doesn't have market anymore. (Though most DVD/BD rippers buy the product for themselves and just rip and upload them for hobby).
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Summer Salt
@rotoscopic
Der Hexer wrote...
I really try to not be a pain in the ass, but all this arguments seem to be just pro-company as far as i can see :(Yes, because everybody arguing against you seems to like Fakku and desire its continued existence.
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deadsx
Lvl 99
Der Hexer wrote...
Pay to not have to see the "pay for this"- stuff all the time? You think thats elegant? Thats the way of the Mob, if you know what i mean, sry...I really try to not be a pain in the ass, but all this arguments seem to be just pro-company as far as i can see :(
Capitalism BITCHES!!!!!
But seriously I do see what issue you have, but Fakku! is now a business. A business need money to run, and invest into bigger better things to bring to us. Sadly advertising is one of the best ways to make money and get exposure. Odds are your using adblock anyways so consider the lost income Fakku! loses from that and call it even.
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devsonfire
3,000,000th Poster
You clearly never study Advertising as a subject, have you?
Relly, this isn't rocket science. I can dumb it down to a kindergarten level, if you really need it.
Relly, this isn't rocket science. I can dumb it down to a kindergarten level, if you really need it.
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Ideation wrote...
Der Hexer wrote...
I really try to not be a pain in the ass, but all this arguments seem to be just pro-company as far as i can see :(Yes, because everybody arguing against you seems to like Fakku and desire its continued existence.
If i would not like Fakku! I would just have left a year or so ago and would be through with it. I did not do that, and there is a reason I'm lurking around for nearly 6 years(long time lurker, first time... you know the drill). And i will not just accept it as a dogma that all i say is against Fakku!'s existence. I just critize the way you think it should work from now on. If you think beeing against a path a group choses is beeing against the group, ok.
I actually study what you would call "rockt sience", so no need to dumb it down ;P
But understanding a subject has nothing to do with your opinon of said subject. I know how to use poisonous gas to slaughter all members of a minority of your choice. But I dont think someone should ever do it.
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Also i would really appreciate it if having another opinon than the loudest voices here would not be used as a reason to try calling someone an idiot, ok devsonfire? oO
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W.O.C183
always fapping
Der Hexer wrote...
Ideation wrote...
Der Hexer wrote...
I really try to not be a pain in the ass, but all this arguments seem to be just pro-company as far as i can see :(Yes, because everybody arguing against you seems to like Fakku and desire its continued existence.
If i would not like Fakku! I would just have left a year or so ago and would be through with it. I did not do that, and there is a reason I'm lurking around for nearly 6 years(long time lurker, first time... you know the drill). And i will not just accept it as a dogma that all i say is against Fakku!'s existence. I just critize the way you think it should work from now on. If you think beeing against a path a group choses is beeing against the group, ok.
I actually study what you would call "rockt sience", so no need to dumb it down ;P
But understanding a subject has nothing to do with your opinon of said subject. I know how to use poisonous gas to slaughter all members of a minority of your choice. But I dont think someone should ever do it.
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Also i would really appreciate it if having another opinon than the loudest voices here would not be used as a reason to try calling someone an idiot, ok devsonfire? oO
It's a bait, not a dick, don't take it so hard. And we all now the final decision by now, it's just people chiming in their ideas. If you don't like it, leave it (the idea I mean). No need for crisis cry and unecessary worrying. But you sir do need to understand that, as deadsx said, captialism is the motto for this page, and that's the undeniable norm of procedure around here. (And we don't have enough attention or efforts for moral preaching, so please spare us of it)
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I envision a world where all of the hentai produced is available in English the same day it is released in Japan. I want it to be made available uncensored and DRM free. I want to see the artists engage with their fans outside of Japan and embrace their international audience. I want to subscribe to my favorite magazines and read all of the chapters inside them every month (even the unpopular artists). I don't want to wait months for a group to pick up the chapter I was looking forward to. I don't want to wait for a book to be scanned or see some awful translator butcher the work of one of my favorite artists.
With FAKKU we have the opportunity to make that happen. It will take a while to figure out how to do it correctly and how to convince people who have been pirating this content for so many years that it's worth paying for. But I believe we can do it. That is my goal with FAKKU and I will do everything I can to achieve it.
With FAKKU we have the opportunity to make that happen. It will take a while to figure out how to do it correctly and how to convince people who have been pirating this content for so many years that it's worth paying for. But I believe we can do it. That is my goal with FAKKU and I will do everything I can to achieve it.
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W.O.C183
always fapping
Jacob wrote...
I envision a world where all of the hentai produced is available in English the same day it is released in Japan. I want it to be made available uncensored and DRM free. I want to see the artists engage with their fans outside of Japan and embrace their international audience. I want to subscribe to my favorite magazines and read all of the chapters inside them every month (even the unpopular artists). I don't want to wait months for a group to pick up the chapter I was looking forward to. I don't want to wait for a book to be scanned or see some awful translator butcher the work of one of my favorite artists. With FAKKU we have the opportunity to make that happen. It will take a while to figure out how to do it correctly and how to convince people who have been pirating this content for so many years that it's worth paying for. But I believe we can do it. That is my goal with FAKKU and I will do everything I can to achieve it.
(ಥ_ಥ)ゞ It's so beautifu! Does that means we get another two weeks of Gold? (Seriously though, $10 a month is pretty up there considering other subscription services)
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W.O.C183
always fapping
The question is, why would someone worry about others' morals on a hentai forum? But since you have no intention of contributing to this thread anymore, I'll back off for I don't know whether you're just covering up anal leakage or baiting everyone.
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Summer Salt
@rotoscopic
Jacob wrote...
With FAKKU we have the opportunity to make that happen. It will take a while to figure out how to do it correctly and how to convince people who have been pirating this content for so many years that it's worth paying for. But I believe we can do it. That is my goal with FAKKU and I will do everything I can to achieve it.That's a lofty goal, but a noble one. You, sir, are a gentleman philanthropist.
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Jacob wrote...
I envision a world where all of the hentai produced is available in English the same day it is released in Japan. I want it to be made available uncensored and DRM free. I want to see the artists engage with their fans outside of Japan and embrace their international audience. I want to subscribe to my favorite magazines and read all of the chapters inside them every month (even the unpopular artists). I don't want to wait months for a group to pick up the chapter I was looking forward to. I don't want to wait for a book to be scanned or see some awful translator butcher the work of one of my favorite artists. With FAKKU we have the opportunity to make that happen. It will take a while to figure out how to do it correctly and how to convince people who have been pirating this content for so many years that it's worth paying for. But I believe we can do it. That is my goal with FAKKU and I will do everything I can to achieve it.
Well, if my knowledge is OK about the industry, in Japan they sell Hentai Magazines and Artists Books when an artists is successful and made enough content to make a book of it. The books costs more less the same you're selling them right now (a bit more the physical, a bit less the digital) and you're selling them even best as they have not censorship! I've seen around 8$ to 22$ the price in Japan. Usually the books are brought for fans of the artist in the spite of "supporting the industry", because they are kinda pricey for a fap material alone (just like fans buy hyper-priced DVD's/BDs anime just to support).
As for the magazines, where the content appears first, they are kinda cheap, like a newspaper, well, not exactly like a newspaper, a bit more, but the difference isn't that much. Usually around $4-12 range. They are huge, have a lot of different works from different artists, hentai series and so. Too much content for a so cheap price, so it's often the fap material.
Finally there are the doujinshi, or fan works, that the artist themselves sell at the different conventions on Japan, most of them on Akihabara. Frankly the doujinshis are the most massive and most delicious (or at least the ones who get more views and better scores on other sites), it looks like the magazines are a bit restrictive and bossy with they artist, not a problem with doujinshis. Usually they are sold between $1 to $5, but considering it's often a single chapter, it's heck expensive, and aren't sold that crazy. Usually they're brought for both, drool and supporting the artist who made you drool. Some artists offer some copies free (or a few, all). Usually the prices just cover the cost and sightly more, as for a fan, printing a chapter is quite pricey over there.
How you can translate them to the overseas English market? I think with the books you've already done a very good job. To increase books success you need to increase the hype around them. How? Well, most people here doesn't know who are the artists of the books being sold, while you can look their fan translated works beforehand, there isn't any incentive to look more (aside going to other hentai site to just check the fappability of the book being sold). On Japan people often buys the book because they are hardcore fans of that artist, but here it's hard to being a hardcore fan without information of the artists, their artists chronology, photos, news or anything that isn't in Japanese.
I think making a simple bio about the artist and putting a bit more emphasis on him/her would result in the eventual creation of more hardcore fans who will change of mind and buy him/her book to support. I think informing more about the hentai books market on Japan would result in convincing some, too, as most people doesn't have any idea that successful artist get their own book sold in the more less same fashion you're doing (for example I didn't know until a year ago).
As for magazine I guess you can start by making a joint with a magazine, they hand you their work beforehand, your team translate them, then you release the magazine like a book in two formats: Chapters separated, you can pay for a single chapter for a very, very cheap price. Each chapters price would be the total of chapters divided by the magazine original price. And then you can sell the magazine complete and all it's content, highlighting you're gonna acquire all that much hentai 20% cheaper as would cost buying each one alone or something like that.
I would still leave 1 or 2 chapters free for promotional reasons OR, a free delicious sample page for each chapter with it's full mighty quality and making it clear you won't get it anywhere else earlier so quickly!
Making a market of doujinshis is pretty much impossible because it's only possible in Japan because fans and artist live in less than 30 minutes travel, but I guess if you contact some doujinshi artist you would get to a sort of agreement that they hand you their work beforehand.
Today not, but in the future you would create an F-Credits money system (or just using a general digital money system if one become massive in the future) to make single chapter or 2-3 books in one shot buying friendlier, akin to the success of Nintendo E-Shop or PSN.
I would also suggest the artist to write a small wink message for their overseas fans, yes, it's simple, yet it's charming works so much! And maybe giving artist and hentai companies the stats sells and so in a comfy and public way would be a great incentive to make em' think in their overseas fans! (That would need a Japanese interface).
Of course all that will take it's time and so, and are just an analyze, suggestions and ideas from my part to try to convince more people. Well, those are my two cents, I hope you can accomplish your whole dream! (I think it's completely possible and you're in good way for it! Ignore the naymakers, work hard and properly and you can nail it~).
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Waar
FAKKU Moderator
Der Hexer wrote...
I see, I see, why should someone worry about morals and shit.I don't see what morality has to do with this situation.
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W.O.C183
always fapping
Waar wrote...
Der Hexer wrote...
I see, I see, why should someone worry about morals and shit.I don't see what morality has to do with this situation.
Waar, I think he's dead now, I suspect anal leakage was the cause.
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Waar
FAKKU Moderator
W.O.C183 wrote...
Waar, I think he's dead now, I suspect anal leakage was the cause.If he had a valid point about the morality of this situation id like to hear it. So dont dismiss it out of kind, others have brought up the point before.
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W.O.C183
always fapping
Waar wrote...
W.O.C183 wrote...
Waar, I think he's dead now, I suspect anal leakage was the cause.If he had a valid point about the morality of this situation id like to hear it. So dont dismiss it out of kind, others have brought up the point before.
No, I mean like "inactive" kinda dead, but if we're in the mood I guess we should hear a point from this topic.