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Yaoi
To be or not to be?
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Brittany
Director of Production
Okay, so I pretty much expect the answers already, but I thought I'd give it a shot anyway.
I'm not particularly fond of Yaoi or even shounen-ai because it tends to be too softcore for me, but it just came across to me that there is none in the doujin section.
It's safe to assume the reason is due to the fact all the admin and mods are male and the general population of the site is male dominated, but I just wondered since the motto for Fakku is 'all about hentai' if there could be sub categories for those who do enjoy that sort of stuff.
My argument stands that with more subcategories and types of hentai a larger range of hentai loving fans would come to Fakku to the site that really is 'all about hentai'.
You would certainly see more females here as well.
I expect a lot of "I don't want to see that shit" but if you think about it, as a female I don't particularly like everything in the doujin section, but I don't complain about it. I just don't look at what I don't like.
Comments?
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:x If you're gonna vote no, at least explain why
I'm not particularly fond of Yaoi or even shounen-ai because it tends to be too softcore for me, but it just came across to me that there is none in the doujin section.
It's safe to assume the reason is due to the fact all the admin and mods are male and the general population of the site is male dominated, but I just wondered since the motto for Fakku is 'all about hentai' if there could be sub categories for those who do enjoy that sort of stuff.
My argument stands that with more subcategories and types of hentai a larger range of hentai loving fans would come to Fakku to the site that really is 'all about hentai'.
You would certainly see more females here as well.
I expect a lot of "I don't want to see that shit" but if you think about it, as a female I don't particularly like everything in the doujin section, but I don't complain about it. I just don't look at what I don't like.
Comments?
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:x If you're gonna vote no, at least explain why
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Hmmm, I definately understand where you are coming from, I've thought of that myself.
But I think Fakku wouldn't be the same place IMO in my mind (like not physically but more like when I think of fakku what comes to my mind first) is Hentai or Yuri. If you consider there being those two different genre's then yeah yaoi should be somewhere in their too. But I consider Fakku more male oriented, and that I think is a big part of the attraction to me.
I mean if I wanted yaoi or shounen-ai, I'd just go to Aarinfantasy. Though I think it might attract more female users, honestly, what could be uploaded here that isn't already on Aarin, and most users that are interested in that stuff are going to go there, so I think that Fakku is perfect the way it is. Ah, it kinda hard to explain, but basically I like the feel Fakku is now, and though I know sites expand and grow, I think there is a different place where the yaoi and shounen-ai genre is taken care of.
But I think Fakku wouldn't be the same place IMO in my mind (like not physically but more like when I think of fakku what comes to my mind first) is Hentai or Yuri. If you consider there being those two different genre's then yeah yaoi should be somewhere in their too. But I consider Fakku more male oriented, and that I think is a big part of the attraction to me.
I mean if I wanted yaoi or shounen-ai, I'd just go to Aarinfantasy. Though I think it might attract more female users, honestly, what could be uploaded here that isn't already on Aarin, and most users that are interested in that stuff are going to go there, so I think that Fakku is perfect the way it is. Ah, it kinda hard to explain, but basically I like the feel Fakku is now, and though I know sites expand and grow, I think there is a different place where the yaoi and shounen-ai genre is taken care of.
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I wouldn't mind Yaoi, it would bring a new demographic to Fakku.
The problem with Yaoi is the fact that I could stumble onto Yaoi and "totally kill my boner". I just really don't want to see Yaoi.
I chose "Depends" on the poll because if Fakku were to employ some modifications or "Filters" for the Yaoi, I would be perfectly content with it around. Although, I don't want to alienate the Yaoi fans, I really just don't want to see that around, even though I would love to see new members of a different taste.
Some ideas I suggest in order for me to accept Yaoi would be:
[list]* A tag system, something akin to what was explained in this thread: https://www.fakku.net/viewtopic.php?t=10845
* We could incorporate a filter system for registered members. Something like how in our profile we can take out the ability to see sigs. Just add something like that for people who do or do not want to see Yaoi.
* A entire sub section dedicated to Yaoi, separate from the rest of the Hentai, although this idea could greatly alienate the demographic. [/list:u]
The problem with Yaoi is the fact that I could stumble onto Yaoi and "totally kill my boner". I just really don't want to see Yaoi.
I chose "Depends" on the poll because if Fakku were to employ some modifications or "Filters" for the Yaoi, I would be perfectly content with it around. Although, I don't want to alienate the Yaoi fans, I really just don't want to see that around, even though I would love to see new members of a different taste.
Some ideas I suggest in order for me to accept Yaoi would be:
[list]* A tag system, something akin to what was explained in this thread: https://www.fakku.net/viewtopic.php?t=10845
* We could incorporate a filter system for registered members. Something like how in our profile we can take out the ability to see sigs. Just add something like that for people who do or do not want to see Yaoi.
* A entire sub section dedicated to Yaoi, separate from the rest of the Hentai, although this idea could greatly alienate the demographic. [/list:u]
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I'd like to point out that you were saying that since Fakku is 'All About Hentai', it should have some Yaoi, but Yaoi and Hentai are entirely different genres.
Regardless, I wouldn't mind it if Fakku had Yaoi as long as there is some sort of filtering system, as aznstoner mentioned. It would be nice to have a new demographic of users, plus we might see more female users as Yaoi is to some women as Yuri is to some men.
Diversity is always good.
Regardless, I wouldn't mind it if Fakku had Yaoi as long as there is some sort of filtering system, as aznstoner mentioned. It would be nice to have a new demographic of users, plus we might see more female users as Yaoi is to some women as Yuri is to some men.
Diversity is always good.
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Brittany
Director of Production
MidgarKonotsu wrote...
I'd like to point out that you were saying that since Fakku is 'All About Hentai', it should have some Yaoi, but Yaoi and Hentai are entirely different genres.Regardless, I wouldn't mind it if Fakku had Yaoi as long as there is some sort of filtering system, as aznstoner mentioned. It would be nice to have a new demographic of users, plus we might see more female users as Yaoi is to some women as Yuri is to some men.
Diversity is always good.
Despite being different genre's it's still hentai.
Lolicon, futa, yuri, etc are within this site as well.
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ZiggyOtaku wrote...
MidgarKonotsu wrote...
I'd like to point out that you were saying that since Fakku is 'All About Hentai', it should have some Yaoi, but Yaoi and Hentai are entirely different genres.Regardless, I wouldn't mind it if Fakku had Yaoi as long as there is some sort of filtering system, as aznstoner mentioned. It would be nice to have a new demographic of users, plus we might see more female users as Yaoi is to some women as Yuri is to some men.
Diversity is always good.
Despite being different genre's it's still hentai.
Lolicon, futa, yuri, etc are within this site as well.
No. Yaoi is not a form of hentai. Actually, Yuri isn't either but the general public seems to disagree with that.
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Brittany
Director of Production
MidgarKonotsu wrote...
ZiggyOtaku wrote...
MidgarKonotsu wrote...
I'd like to point out that you were saying that since Fakku is 'All About Hentai', it should have some Yaoi, but Yaoi and Hentai are entirely different genres.Regardless, I wouldn't mind it if Fakku had Yaoi as long as there is some sort of filtering system, as aznstoner mentioned. It would be nice to have a new demographic of users, plus we might see more female users as Yaoi is to some women as Yuri is to some men.
Diversity is always good.
Despite being different genre's it's still hentai.
Lolicon, futa, yuri, etc are within this site as well.
No. Yaoi is not a form of hentai. Actually, Yuri isn't either but the general public seems to disagree with that.
Hentai (変態 or ã¸ã‚“ãŸã„, Hentai?) Hentai.ogg listen (help·info) is a Japanese word that, in the West, is used when referring to sexually explicit or pornographic comics and animation, particularly Japanese anime, manga and computer games (see Japanese pornography). In Japan it can be used to mean "metamorphosis" or "abnormality". The word "hentai" has a negative connotation to the Japanese and is commonly used to mean "sexually perverted".
A male inserting a penis in another male is sexually explicit
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But, I will however, agree with you that shounen-ai is not hentai.
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While I generally have nothing against Yaoi. I feel that I must vote against it. Normally, I would be fine with it but, the demographic that would be attracted would include a VERY annoying group.
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*cue intro*
Welcome to Fakku Investigates
Today we shall investigate the dreaded "Yaoi Fangirl".
"Yaoi Fangirls" are girls that are rabidly obesessed with yaoi. some yaoi pairings are: sasunaru (naruto), roy/ed (FMA), kaworu/shinji (NGE), miroku/inuyasha (InY), yuki/shuichi (gravitation), and many, many more.
If one happens to enter the vicinity of a yaoi fangirl. Do not mention certain shows with disdain around them. One will be clawed, or at the very least, never seen from again. Though, if one treads around carefully, one will survive an encounter with a yaoi fangirl with relatively few scars...that are physical. Psychologists should be standing by.
The best possible method when dealing with a "Yaoi Fangirl" is to avoid them at all costs. If you are caught by surprise by a yaoi fangirl or worse a group of them. Remember to never criticize ANY anime in any way shape or form. If you do accidentally set them off. I'm sorry but, kiss your ass goodbye.
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*cue intro*
Welcome to Fakku Investigates
Today we shall investigate the dreaded "Yaoi Fangirl".
"Yaoi Fangirls" are girls that are rabidly obesessed with yaoi. some yaoi pairings are: sasunaru (naruto), roy/ed (FMA), kaworu/shinji (NGE), miroku/inuyasha (InY), yuki/shuichi (gravitation), and many, many more.
If one happens to enter the vicinity of a yaoi fangirl. Do not mention certain shows with disdain around them. One will be clawed, or at the very least, never seen from again. Though, if one treads around carefully, one will survive an encounter with a yaoi fangirl with relatively few scars...that are physical. Psychologists should be standing by.
The best possible method when dealing with a "Yaoi Fangirl" is to avoid them at all costs. If you are caught by surprise by a yaoi fangirl or worse a group of them. Remember to never criticize ANY anime in any way shape or form. If you do accidentally set them off. I'm sorry but, kiss your ass goodbye.
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Brittany
Director of Production
Fiery_penguin_of_doom wrote...
While I generally have nothing against Yaoi. I feel that I must vote against it. Normally, I would be fine with it but, the demographic that would be attracted would include a VERY annoying group.-------------------------------------------------------------------
*cue intro*
Welcome to Fakku Investigates
Today we shall investigate the dreaded "Yaoi Fangirl".
"Yaoi Fangirls" are girls that are rabidly obesessed with yaoi. some yaoi pairings are: sasunaru (naruto), roy/ed (FMA), kaworu/shinji (NGE), miroku/inuyasha (InY), yuki/shuichi (gravitation), and many, many more.
If one happens to enter the vicinity of a yaoi fangirl. Do not mention certain shows with disdain around them. One will be clawed, or at the very least, never seen from again. Though, if one treads around carefully, one will survive an encounter with a yaoi fangirl with relatively few scars...that are physical. Psychologists should be standing by.
The best possible method when dealing with a "Yaoi Fangirl" is to avoid them at all costs. If you are caught by surprise by a yaoi fangirl or worse a group of them. Remember to never criticize ANY anime in any way shape or form. If you do accidentally set them off. I'm sorry but, kiss your ass goodbye.
That's a bit extreme ._. But okay.
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Well for all the reasons for or against I'm not sure it matters too much. The policy here as far as I remember is that the staff "Translates what they want to" and doesn't take requests. As I believe the staff is entirely male or at most minimally female I don't think we'll see any of them wanting to translate any Yaoi.
I honestly don't care one way or the other if they do any Yaoi because I trust the admins would set up a way so that I wouldn't have to notice it if I don't want to. As for Yaoi Fangirls....well we probably have enough annoying groups here already and have the methods to deal with them (it's called the report button...or just ignoring them).
I honestly don't care one way or the other if they do any Yaoi because I trust the admins would set up a way so that I wouldn't have to notice it if I don't want to. As for Yaoi Fangirls....well we probably have enough annoying groups here already and have the methods to deal with them (it's called the report button...or just ignoring them).
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Brittany
Director of Production
Ramsus wrote...
Well for all the reasons for or against I'm not sure it matters too much. The policy here as far as I remember is that the staff "Translates what they want to" and doesn't take requests. As I believe the staff is entirely male or at most minimally female I don't think we'll see any of them wanting to translate any Yaoi. I honestly don't care one way or the other if they do any Yaoi because I trust the admins would set up a way so that I wouldn't have to notice it if I don't want to. As for Yaoi Fangirls....well we probably have enough annoying groups here already and have the methods to deal with them (it's called the report button...or just ignoring them).
"Translate what they want to" - I didn't necessarily mean for them to translate yaoi. There's plenty of doujin I've enjoyed on Fakku that hasn't been translated.
It's kinda hard for a guy whose not into Yaoi to translate anyway. Their feelings towards yaoi would be similar to mine with furries. I would not enjoy translating anything furry related.
Just it *being* there might bring in more people, possibly more translators who would even be willing to do that.
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aznstoner wrote...
Some ideas I suggest in order for me to accept Yaoi would be:[list]* A tag system, something akin to what was explained in this thread: https://www.fakku.net/viewtopic.php?t=10845
* A entire sub section dedicated to Yaoi, separate from the rest of the Hentai, although this idea could greatly alienate the demographic. [/list:u]
i wouldn't care much, if i don't like something i don't tend to try to find out more about it and its contents.
but others might like it, why should i stop them?
[size=10]To be i guess? :][/h]
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i'd say do it :D
nah, just kiddin' but if that can increased the female population on fakku then i'll gladly accept
but just separate it or put some filter coz' i don't want to burn my eyes
nah, just kiddin' but if that can increased the female population on fakku then i'll gladly accept
but just separate it or put some filter coz' i don't want to burn my eyes
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Fiery_penguin_of_doom wrote...
If one happens to enter the vicinity of a yaoi fangirl. Do not mention certain shows with disdain around them. One will be clawed, or at the very least, never seen from again. Though, if one treads around carefully, one will survive an encounter with a yaoi fangirl with relatively few scars...that are physical. Psychologists should be standing by.
The best possible method when dealing with a "Yaoi Fangirl" is to avoid them at all costs. If you are caught by surprise by a yaoi fangirl or worse a group of them. Remember to never criticize ANY anime in any way shape or form. If you do accidentally set them off. I'm sorry but, kiss your ass goodbye.
Bwhahaha... :lol:
You, Fpod, just made my insides jiggle with delight.
Then I must be a very lousy fangirl. I'm incapable of such stuff. Yet, you have a point, there are psychotic fangirls that go TERMINATOR in such instances. Oh how they spoil the peace >=P Aren't people entitled to what they want? Ultimately the decision lies with the Admins. For those whose eyes burnt at such a sight, skip thumbnails that suspiciously hint "YAOI".
That said, I still say that Fakku's appeal lies in its helluva variety not exclusive to any category. It'll be nice to see some yaoi here, but, then again there are sites that specifically cater to that acquired taste.
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Well we had this Discussion in the past as well. So I will tell you pretty much the same, what the Fakku Staff is gonna tell you:
There is not a single rule against uploading Yaoi, so feel free to do so. The FAQ even states out, that you are allowed to upload Yaoi content.
However why for example should I upload Yaoi Content? Im not interested in this specific Genere and there is not a single piece of Yaoi on my Pc. And while it takes time to search for new Doujinshi and upload them, you need some Motivation. I can`t see how i should motivate myself to search for and upload something im absolutely not intrested in.
There is not a single rule against uploading Yaoi, so feel free to do so. The FAQ even states out, that you are allowed to upload Yaoi content.
However why for example should I upload Yaoi Content? Im not interested in this specific Genere and there is not a single piece of Yaoi on my Pc. And while it takes time to search for new Doujinshi and upload them, you need some Motivation. I can`t see how i should motivate myself to search for and upload something im absolutely not intrested in.
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I hate yaoi, but im not against it being uploaded if others wanna see it, but rather it be separated from the the rest of the content, cuz that shit kills booners for breakfast.
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KLoWn wrote...
I hate yaoi, but im not against it being uploaded if others wanna see it, but rather it be separated from the the rest of the content, cuz that shit kills booners for breakfast.^This.
Though I'm not against chicks users going up through teh roof, which I can tell from most of the male posts. :)
I concur with KLoWn.
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I don't mind yaoi-related content being uploaded to Fakku, though I doubt I would check them out. Like what others have mentioned, some form of warning could be posted to inform the reader of the potentially "different" genre of hentai that s/he might see.
There will be some people who fail to read to read the warning, only to go "WTF is this shit?", but they can only blame themselves for not paying enough attention. The same concept applies when signing contracts.
There will be some people who fail to read to read the warning, only to go "WTF is this shit?", but they can only blame themselves for not paying enough attention. The same concept applies when signing contracts.
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Gambler wrote...
There will be some people who fail to read to read the warning, only to go "WTF is this shit?", but they can only blame themselves for not paying enough attention.Ah man, those guys faces when they see it would be priceless XD
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Lord_Helmchen wrote...
Well we had this Discussion in the past as well. So I will tell you pretty much the same, what the Fakku Staff is gonna tell you:There is not a single rule against uploading Yaoi, so feel free to do so. The FAQ even states out, that you are allowed to upload Yaoi content.
However why for example should I upload Yaoi Content? Im not interested in this specific Genere and there is not a single piece of Yaoi on my Pc. And while it takes time to search for new Doujinshi and upload them, you need some Motivation. I can`t see how i should motivate myself to search for and upload something im absolutely not intrested in.
I think Ziggy's talking about yaoi being uploaded to the Fakku doujins, not just in the User Uploads section. Regular users don't control what is uploaded to the main site; what Ziggy is asking is that some yaoi doujins be added by the admins.
I'm for it, except for two problems - one, a tag system needs to be in place, of course, so it's easy to tell that a manga is yaoi; two, since the admins are males, they probably wouldn't know what is good and what is bad. They could upload five yaoi doujins, and all five could be terrible, so it would be a wasted effort. A female (or male) who likes yaoi would need to offer advice on what doujins should be uploaded.
Now, what's all this business about yaoi not being hentai? Hentai is drawn sex from Japan, in the simplest terms. Yaoi is drawn sex from Japan. It's hentai, just like yuri is, just like lolicon is, just like shotacon is. Even guro is hentai, as long as it involves sex.
As for the yaoi fangirls that may invade Fakku is yaoi is uploaded, I'm sure the community could handle them. The fangirls would either do stupid shit and get banned or be driven off by the overwhelmingly male population. I know most of the guys on Fakku wouldn't stand for any bullshit, and they'd report useless fangirl threads and yell at stupid fangirls. If they came (and there's no guarantee they would), they wouldn't stay long. But really, there are a lot of girls out there who like yaoi but aren't raving lunatics. They would be welcome in Fakku, wouldn't they?