Explain vanilla to me.
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Lately, and I mean for a year or so, the tag "vanilla" has become very popular but it seems it is being applied to anything that excludes the forced tag.
Specially, I've seen it used along with the yuri tag (which is an awesome combination but...) how is yuri vanilla sex? Isn't it regarded as fetish? Then incests and even tentacles once and ok... what does it mean anyway?
I was under the impression that vanilla meant boy and girl in missionary, doggy and cowgirl positions maximum. Even fellatio and paizuri are fetish and yet they are common place in vanilla doujin.
Just to be clear, does vanilla has come to simply mean non-forced/non-netorare?
(BTW did I mention Yuri is awesome?)
Specially, I've seen it used along with the yuri tag (which is an awesome combination but...) how is yuri vanilla sex? Isn't it regarded as fetish? Then incests and even tentacles once and ok... what does it mean anyway?
I was under the impression that vanilla meant boy and girl in missionary, doggy and cowgirl positions maximum. Even fellatio and paizuri are fetish and yet they are common place in vanilla doujin.
Just to be clear, does vanilla has come to simply mean non-forced/non-netorare?
(BTW did I mention Yuri is awesome?)
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animefreak_usa
Child of Samael
Vanilla sex (or conventional sex) is a description of what a culture regards as standard or conventional sexual behaviour. Different cultures, subcultures and individuals have different ideas about what constitutes this type of sex. Often, it is interpreted as sex which does not involve such elements as BDSM, kink, or fetish activities.
I guess Vanilla is plain ol' sex. The genders really don't apply unless there some type of abnormal sex act being applied. There vanilla everything now. Really it up to the user what vanilla really applies passed the standard def.
I kinda like team vanilla way of saying what types of mango they do. 'Anything that falls into the general category of mainstream hentai. If you’re interested in the more deviant types of stuff, apply for Little White Butterflies instead.'
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I always believed Vanilla is just a typical story about a boy and the girl next door being romantically involved later in time.
Regarding positions, no, blowjobs, boobs jobs, hand jobs, foot jobs, and also the funny ol' 69 can still apply to vanilla if the conditions are met when it comes to vanilla.
Boy meets girl, they get along, get it on, and ultimately in the end, become romantically bonded with one another ... ya that is vanilla.
Regarding positions, no, blowjobs, boobs jobs, hand jobs, foot jobs, and also the funny ol' 69 can still apply to vanilla if the conditions are met when it comes to vanilla.
Boy meets girl, they get along, get it on, and ultimately in the end, become romantically bonded with one another ... ya that is vanilla.
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I've always wondered myself. Reading the description of the tag of F! says normal sex, generally with boy and girl falling in love etc.
Now, I think the meaning has been obscured to "things that don't leave a bad feeling in your mouth" or "things that give you that warm fuzzy feeling". See I've always found incest not to be considered vanilla and I've noticed cases in where mangas that have not been tagged as such due to this reason. But lately nobody really cares.
You know you have a "vanilla" manga when there is comments on F! with those stupid self directed dialogues of vanilla man and NTR man doing stupid things like vanilla beams and whatnot.
Now, I think the meaning has been obscured to "things that don't leave a bad feeling in your mouth" or "things that give you that warm fuzzy feeling". See I've always found incest not to be considered vanilla and I've noticed cases in where mangas that have not been tagged as such due to this reason. But lately nobody really cares.
You know you have a "vanilla" manga when there is comments on F! with those stupid self directed dialogues of vanilla man and NTR man doing stupid things like vanilla beams and whatnot.
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rottenpeanuts wrote...
You know you have a "vanilla" manga when there is comments on F! with those stupid self directed dialogues of vanilla man and NTR man doing stupid things like vanilla beams and whatnot. Closest thing to an standard definition we can get I guess...
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CGrascal
Infamous
It's bland and boring junk. That's what it is. I feel like throwing up every time I finish working on one of those things.
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Vanilla is when the guy and the girl doing it with both consent and both love each other. The best genre ever, rivaling wincest.
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I used to dodge vanilla, then I realized it's just as full with fetishes as everything else, like you mentioned. Suddenly, vanillafag.
I think I've even seen a vanilla+forced tag doujin on this site before. It's awesome.
I think I've even seen a vanilla+forced tag doujin on this site before. It's awesome.
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animefreak_usa wrote...
Vanilla sex (or conventional sex) is a description of what a culture regards as standard or conventional sexual behaviour. Different cultures, subcultures and individuals have different ideas about what constitutes this type of sex. Often, it is interpreted as sex which does not involve such elements as BDSM, kink, or fetish activities.
Yes, that's a definition that works much better than the ones I see around.
nacho wrote...
I used to dodge vanilla, then I realized it's just as full with fetishes as everything else, like you mentioned. Suddenly, vanillafag.I think I've even seen a vanilla+forced tag doujin on this site before. It's awesome.
That's because people sometimes tag stuff that's not vanilla as such, while I've seen actual vanilla not properly tagged. Forced sex can be in vanilla as long as the characters liked each other from the very beginning, that's pretty much the only condition.
Vanilla is much more about the lack of fetishes and much less about romance than people think.
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The thing is "vanilla" is refers to many things besides hentai as normal, unchanged, ordinary.
So playing on a 24 person server sponsored by Valve in TF2 would be a "vanilla" server.
In the same vein vanilla refers to situations that may be uncommon, but nothing completely strange or unthinkable to a normal person.
Vanilla can apply to yuri because lesbians arent that uncommon (also it's a japanese cultral thing but i won't get into that)
So playing on a 24 person server sponsored by Valve in TF2 would be a "vanilla" server.
In the same vein vanilla refers to situations that may be uncommon, but nothing completely strange or unthinkable to a normal person.
Vanilla can apply to yuri because lesbians arent that uncommon (also it's a japanese cultral thing but i won't get into that)
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animefreak_usa
Child of Samael
I'm not a fan of vanilla since im a mage of the dark arts, but i am more an art and story guy since hentai isn't my fapping choice. Fucking weird i don't fap to porn and watch tons of it. Kinda like the person described in the playboy magazine of †˜i like the articles’.
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Something not out of the ordanairy.
Yandere, monstergirl, tentacles, that would be considered out of the ordanairy.
Vanilla ice cream is ordanairy, mint ice cream would be considered not.
Yandere, monstergirl, tentacles, that would be considered out of the ordanairy.
Vanilla ice cream is ordanairy, mint ice cream would be considered not.
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Can't believe you've never heard of this.
To put it simply, it doesn't mean anything other than like sex because of love.
IT's basically the opposite of forced/NTR.
Vanilla is most regarded as doujin where two people who are in love with each other have sex, it usually being both of their first times.
To put it simply, it doesn't mean anything other than like sex because of love.
IT's basically the opposite of forced/NTR.
Vanilla is most regarded as doujin where two people who are in love with each other have sex, it usually being both of their first times.
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Vanilla ice cream is ordanairy, mint ice cream would be considered not.
Yes, this is a very common misconception and the reason whoever invented the term was wrong. Vanilla IS a flavour, just like mint.
What they mean by "vanilla" would be far closer to "milk" icecream-wise or more simply water.
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Vanilla = She's happy, he's happy, and everybody's happy because they're all in love. Love is the glue that binds the cock and pussy.
A wise words from one of Fakku Elder...RBZ
A wise words from one of Fakku Elder...RBZ
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Two people in love, romantic kiss, stripped naked or half-naked, holding hands, romantic sex, hugging each other with their naked bodies, calling each other's names repeatedly in every thrust, sweating passionately, both have orgasms at the same time, happy ending. That is vanilla.
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animefreak_usa
Child of Samael
Paracelsus wrote...
Vanilla ice cream is ordanairy, mint ice cream would be considered not.
Yes, this is a very common misconception and the reason whoever invented the term was wrong. Vanilla IS a flavour, just like mint.
What they mean by "vanilla" would be far closer to "milk" icecream-wise or more simply water.
All Ice creams are basically the same content of milk fat by law. Some have more. Most commercial ice cream is 50% air mixed into the frozen cream. The better the ice cream the less air is in it. Vanilla is just a flavor. Nothing wrong with it just because it's like the standard flavoring and it's mixed with other stuff to make the base for a lot of other kinds of ice cream.. it just ordinary, overused and over served. Sometimes you need other wild flavors. Chocolate and strawberry, with nuts and whip cream, served inside a cone or off her chest... wait i got to literal.
All fetish is based on the normal missionary and rebellion against it. I leave it this.
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animefreak_usa wrote...
All Ice creams are basically the same content of milk fat by law. Some have more. Most commercial ice cream is 50% air mixed into the frozen cream. The better the ice cream the less air is in it. Vanilla is just a flavor. Nothing wrong with it just because it's like the standard flavoring and it's mixed with other stuff to make the base for a lot of other kinds of ice cream.. it just ordinary, overused and over served. Sometimes you need other wild flavors. Chocolate and strawberry, with nuts and whip cream, served inside a cone or off her chest... wait i got to literal.
All fetish is based on the normal missionary and rebellion against it. I leave it this.
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Catchy song nonetheless, that's pretty much what vanilla is, it actually should be "milk". Vanilla is not a fetish, vanilla is "no fetish" rather than "romance". You got what I meant when I said it, it meant "devoid of any real flavor" as in milk icecream, just like vanilla hentai should be devoid of any major fetish. Vanilla should be the safe spot for anyone who wants to see hentai without being bothered by kinky stuff or angsty stories, it should be almost universal "pick up and fap". That doesn't mean vanilla can't have sluts or weird stories or anything of the sort though, it all depends on how the story is written or the type and the intensity of the fetish. I've seen alleged vanilla stories that do not read and do not feel as such while stories that weren't tagged that have nothing out of the ordinary and would perfectly fit the group.
Some people do not care about following certain guidelines but many others do, for example
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And there is plenty more examples. Tagging something like cheating is easy because it's a fetish, you can see it's there. Tagging vanilla is much harder as it's about what not should be there. I still think there should be a happy sex tag to help better differentiate the two.