I'm seriously sick of people not knowing what NTR.
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Cheating and NTR are two separate groups dealing with similar issues.
NTR is cuckolding. A man seeing a situation in which his partner is being unfaithful and has sex with other men. The man sees the situation his partner is in and the interaction (Or the lack of) between him and his wife and the story becomes a confusing emotional train wreck for the man that has an open ending depending on how the guy reacts. These stories focus on the situation leading up the woman being unfaithful, or show how the man is affected by it.
Cheating is just that. Cheating. If the person in question isn't brought into the actual story and is just referenced, then it's not NTR. He's not there to see it happening. You don't know what his reaction is. If he isn't involved in the story, he A) Doesn't know it's happening, and B) He doesn't have enough presence in the story to be able to gauge how he would react. He could go completely apeshit. He could not care. NTR was created so that you would be self inserting in to the guy being cheated on. You related to the character and feel jealousy towards the other person thinking "How could they do that?" With cheating doujin/mangas that feeling of jealousy isn't there. How can it be? Character in question isn't there, so you only have the reference of the woman in the story and the man she's cheating with to go on.
A good example of what NTR is the recent addition to Fakku "Long Distance Relationship." The character is shown to be a sympathetic person who is present through the story before being devastated to learn that his girlfriend was cheating on him with some fat hairy fuckhead. Another (HUGE) example I won't get into detail here is Unsweet. Google it.
A good example of what ISN'T NTR (From stuff we have on Fakku):
Before the Date
Ha ha Toshishita No...
Soukan Kazoku
In the case of Before the Date and Soukan Kazou the man doesn't even make an appearance. He's only referenced offhand by characters in the doujin as they're boinking. This is not NTR. It's not cuckolding because the man isn't around to know what's going on/we have no idea what this guy's deal is aside from just not being there.
In Ha ha Toshishita No... the man being cheated on is on roughly 14 frames in the entire doujin, half of which are him in the background or having his face obscured. He seriously has no presence in the story, even when they start doing it on top of his unconscious body.
I realize this won't change much but goddamn people, NTR and Cheating are two completely different things. Stop lumping them together.
NTR is cuckolding. A man seeing a situation in which his partner is being unfaithful and has sex with other men. The man sees the situation his partner is in and the interaction (Or the lack of) between him and his wife and the story becomes a confusing emotional train wreck for the man that has an open ending depending on how the guy reacts. These stories focus on the situation leading up the woman being unfaithful, or show how the man is affected by it.
Cheating is just that. Cheating. If the person in question isn't brought into the actual story and is just referenced, then it's not NTR. He's not there to see it happening. You don't know what his reaction is. If he isn't involved in the story, he A) Doesn't know it's happening, and B) He doesn't have enough presence in the story to be able to gauge how he would react. He could go completely apeshit. He could not care. NTR was created so that you would be self inserting in to the guy being cheated on. You related to the character and feel jealousy towards the other person thinking "How could they do that?" With cheating doujin/mangas that feeling of jealousy isn't there. How can it be? Character in question isn't there, so you only have the reference of the woman in the story and the man she's cheating with to go on.
A good example of what NTR is the recent addition to Fakku "Long Distance Relationship." The character is shown to be a sympathetic person who is present through the story before being devastated to learn that his girlfriend was cheating on him with some fat hairy fuckhead. Another (HUGE) example I won't get into detail here is Unsweet. Google it.
A good example of what ISN'T NTR (From stuff we have on Fakku):
Before the Date
Ha ha Toshishita No...
Soukan Kazoku
In the case of Before the Date and Soukan Kazou the man doesn't even make an appearance. He's only referenced offhand by characters in the doujin as they're boinking. This is not NTR. It's not cuckolding because the man isn't around to know what's going on/we have no idea what this guy's deal is aside from just not being there.
In Ha ha Toshishita No... the man being cheated on is on roughly 14 frames in the entire doujin, half of which are him in the background or having his face obscured. He seriously has no presence in the story, even when they start doing it on top of his unconscious body.
I realize this won't change much but goddamn people, NTR and Cheating are two completely different things. Stop lumping them together.
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Cruz
Dope Stone Lion
Tyranosaurus_Secks wrote...
Wait here while I go try and find a fuck to give.2edgy4me
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You have 1 post.
This is what you open with?
Dude, this isn't even the right section for this.
We're all a bunch of douchebags with attitude problems and too much time on our hands, absolutely no fucks will be given about this thread.
But, uh... I guess, thanks for the Vocabulary lesson, teach?
This is what you open with?
Dude, this isn't even the right section for this.
We're all a bunch of douchebags with attitude problems and too much time on our hands, absolutely no fucks will be given about this thread.
But, uh... I guess, thanks for the Vocabulary lesson, teach?
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artcellrox
The Grey Knight :y
Sindalf wrote...
NTR means cock blocking right? Right? Through sex, yes.
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Cruz
Dope Stone Lion
Lollikittie wrote...
You have 1 post.This is what you open with?
Irrelevant.
Lollikittie wrote...
Dude, this isn't even the right section for this.
This is IB. A rant about the true definition of NTR is acceptable.
Lollikittie wrote...
We're all a bunch of douchebags with attitude problems and too much time on our hands, absolutely no fucks will be given about this thread.
You're acting worse than those "WE R LEEJUN" kids on /b/. If you feel it's a bad thread don't respond.
Also as a community only a few act like that. They're all shit posters.
zeroniv_legend wrote...
I'm seriously sick of people making threads about this over and over again.In OP's defense, this one's a bit different. Not complaining about it, just how people define it.
Also this account was made during the whole KS phase where there were plenty of accounts made after some of the characters...Not saying you're an alt. account...but you might be.
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LillySatou wrote...
NTR and Cheating are two completely different things. Stop lumping them together.I'm laughing pretty hard now...
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Tyranosaurus_Secks wrote...
Wait here while I go try and find a fuck to give.I wouldn't even pretend to try and find one.
TL;DR
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Cruz
Dope Stone Lion
zeroniv_legend wrote...
cruz737 wrote...
KS phaseDafuq is that?
Cripple girl dating simulator.
err...Kawata Shoujo.
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Gravity cat
the adequately amused
Yeh!!!!!!!!!111111 Vanilla all da waiiii!!1111
vanila is da purest form of love becuz in a vanila da characters trooly luv eech uva and neither 1 cheats on da ova they are perfec for eech ova. Dey wanna have lots and lots of bebeez after having lots and lots more sex. vanilaman for da win!!11
vanila is da purest form of love becuz in a vanila da characters trooly luv eech uva and neither 1 cheats on da ova they are perfec for eech ova. Dey wanna have lots and lots of bebeez after having lots and lots more sex. vanilaman for da win!!11
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Netorare: a stranger's penis enters a vagina belonging to someone else or close enough to belong
Cheating: a stranger's penis enters a vagina belonging to someone else
You can argue about the storytelling and you would be right, doesn't change that the act is very similar. If I don't like that very act why would I care how it's told.
The issue from before was that Before The Date was tagged Vanilla, more or less an oxymoron.
Cheating: a stranger's penis enters a vagina belonging to someone else
You can argue about the storytelling and you would be right, doesn't change that the act is very similar. If I don't like that very act why would I care how it's told.
The issue from before was that Before The Date was tagged Vanilla, more or less an oxymoron.