In which two dudes experience labor
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echoeagle3 wrote...
Why would having a baby make you ruined to your partner? I don't think so and I don't think that most people believe that. And I can't say since I'm not a woman but if sex had become so excruciating why would women continue to have children? Lots of women have more then one baby. And that means that they have sex again. And go through labor again. And I know that besides baby making women that have had children still have sex. I realized that about my parents, and I have 3 brothers.
You have no idea what happens to the vagina after labor, do you? O_o There's a shitton of tear-age. Things rip that should never, ever be ripped. Things get enlarged and twisted and royally fucked up. After childbirth, a lot of women can't even hold their urine effectively. One wrong jerk and a little pee comes out. I don't know if stitching is mandatory post-birth, but I do know that the circumference of the opening is never the same. You can opt to have 'extra stitches' to 'keep shit tight', but your poor boyfriend/husband has seen a live being come through your happy hole, and ruin the thing he loves so dearly. The vagina post-childbirth has been described as 'a veritable unhappy catcher's mitt'. It's not openly talked about but yeah, a -lot- of men look at their wives -very- differently after childbirth. I'd even go so far as to say all men do. Sure, it may be positive in some aspects, but your tight, sexy, sex kitten of a girlfriend has now become the loose, beautiful mother of your child. After that baby comes out, there's shit you can't unsee.
Sex is excruciating for a period of time. For -a lot- of women, it's most certainly never the same. Why do women have more kids? Because they want kids. O_o Laying down and allowing someone to ejaculate inside you doesn't take much time if you're just trying to procreate. Yes, it's excruciating, still. A lot of women find the pain worth it for the sake of a baby - another reason they'd have multiple live births. Asking why women still do something despite physical pain shows you don't know much about us - um, hello, high heels?
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echoeagle3
Oppai Overlord
Lollikittie wrote...
echoeagle3 wrote...
Why would having a baby make you ruined to your partner? I don't think so and I don't think that most people believe that. And I can't say since I'm not a woman but if sex had become so excruciating why would women continue to have children? Lots of women have more then one baby. And that means that they have sex again. And go through labor again. And I know that besides baby making women that have had children still have sex. I realized that about my parents, and I have 3 brothers.
You have no idea what happens to the vagina after labor, do you? O_o There's a shitton of tear-age. Things rip that should never, ever be ripped. Things get enlarged and twisted and royally fucked up. After childbirth, a lot of women can't even hold their urine effectively. One wrong jerk and a little pee comes out. I don't know if stitching is mandatory post-birth, but I do know that the circumference of the opening is never the same. You can opt to have 'extra stitches' to 'keep shit tight', but your poor boyfriend/husband has seen a live being come through your happy hole, and ruin the thing he loves so dearly. The vagina post-childbirth has been described as 'a veritable unhappy catcher's mitt'. It's not openly talked about but yeah, a -lot- of men look at their wives -very- differently after childbirth. I'd even go so far as to say all men do. Sure, it may be positive in some aspects, but your tight, sexy, sex kitten of a girlfriend has now become the loose, beautiful mother of your child. After that baby comes out, there's shit you can't unsee.
Sex is excruciating for a period of time. For -a lot- of women, it's most certainly never the same. Why do women have more kids? Because they want kids. O_o Laying down and allowing someone to ejaculate inside you doesn't take much time if you're just trying to procreate. Yes, it's excruciating, still. A lot of women find the pain worth it for the sake of a baby - another reason they'd have multiple live births. Asking why women still do something despite physical pain shows you don't know much about us - um, hello, high heels?
You're making it sound like you can never again enjoy sex after you have a child. The man won't enjoy it and the woman just finds it horribly painful. Im afraid I still find that hard to believe.
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echoeagle3 wrote...
You're making it sound like you can never again enjoy sex after you have a child. The man won't enjoy it and the woman just finds it horribly painful. Im afraid I still find that hard to believe.
The woman won't be as tight, and the man will think of her differently because he's seen a giant morphous head pop out of her happy hole.
The woman will experience either pain or lessened sensations during sex.
It's not... never going to be enjoyed again, but it will be different. After a healing process, maybe some additional stitching it could be ... relatively normal but it will never be exactly the same.
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echoeagle3
Oppai Overlord
Lollikittie wrote...
echoeagle3 wrote...
You're making it sound like you can never again enjoy sex after you have a child. The man won't enjoy it and the woman just finds it horribly painful. Im afraid I still find that hard to believe.
The woman won't be as tight, and the man will think of her differently because he's seen a giant morphous head pop out of her happy hole.
The woman will experience either pain or lessened sensations during sex.
It's not... never going to be enjoyed again, but it will be different. After a healing process, maybe some additional stitching it could be ... relatively normal but it will never be exactly the same.
My mother got a Hysterectomy a few years ago. Thats one of the big things that tells me. Because as far as I know women get that procedure because they want to keep having sex and not get pregnant.
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echoeagle3 wrote...
My mother got a Hysterectomy a few years ago. Thats one of the big things that tells me. Because as far as I know women get that procedure because they want to keep having sex and not get pregnant.
Hysterectomy is a procedure typical of women with uterine cancer. Getting a hysterectomy because you don't want to get pregnant is like cutting off your arm because you don't want to get gangrene in your hand. That's a bizarrely proportioned response to something that could be solved with conventional birth control.
I also have no idea how that relates to what we've been discussing. O_o
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echoeagle3
Oppai Overlord
Lollikittie wrote...
echoeagle3 wrote...
My mother got a Hysterectomy a few years ago. Thats one of the big things that tells me. Because as far as I know women get that procedure because they want to keep having sex and not get pregnant.
Hysterectomy is a procedure typical of women with uterine cancer. Getting a hysterectomy because you don't want to get pregnant is like cutting off your arm because you don't want to get gangrene in your hand. That's a bizarrely proportioned response to something that could be solved with conventional birth control.
I also have no idea how that relates to what we've been discussing. O_o
She doesn't have cancer. And actually I might have been wrong about that. I think it was my dad that got a procedure. Vasectomy, the male version. And now that you brought up birth control thats another reason. Im sure many mothers still take birth control. Why would they if they hate sex so much? We were talking about women that have sex after giving birth. This does have to do with that.
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echoeagle3 wrote...
She doesn't have cancer. And actually I might have been wrong about that. I think it was my dad that got a procedure. Vasectomy, the male version. And now that you brought up birth control thats another reason. Im sure many mothers still take birth control. Why would they if they hate sex so much? We were talking about women that have sex after giving birth. This does have to do with that.
... This conversation is getting pointless. You're drawing supposition and stating it as an argument. O_o I'm just going to end it on this: Do your research. Thanks. :]
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Lollikittie wrote...
... This conversation is getting pointless. You're drawing supposition and stating it as an argument. O_o I'm just going to end it on this: Do your research. Thanks. :]
Maybe you should practice what you preach, durr.
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That looks excruciating, not that I would have expected any less.
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Loner
the People's Senpai
Her vagina will already be stretched beyond recognition after I've put my dick in it.
No but seriously, props to the ladies for having to go through that stuff. It's strange, the other day, for some reason I had a dream I was in labor. That was a fucking scary ass dream >_>
No but seriously, props to the ladies for having to go through that stuff. It's strange, the other day, for some reason I had a dream I was in labor. That was a fucking scary ass dream >_>
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Chlor wrote...
Maybe you should practice what you preach, durr.
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That looks excruciating, not that I would have expected any less.
>He was asking if sex hurts after labor, why have another child.
>I repeatedly told him there's a healing process
>He ignores it completely.
>Says he finds it hard to believe
>This is literally common sense.
Loner wrote...
No but seriously, props to the ladies for having to go through that stuff. It's strange, the other day, for some reason I had a dream I was in labor. That was a fucking scary ass dream >_> I had a dream last night I was lactating, and offered to nurse a baby. I can't remember if it was mine, or just some random infant.
I have no idea what's going on upstairs right now, man. My dreams lately are all over the place*.
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Lollikittie wrote...
Chlor wrote...
Maybe you should practice what you preach, durr.
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That looks excruciating, not that I would have expected any less.
>He was asking if sex hurts after labor, why have another child.
>I repeatedly told him there's a healing process
>He ignores it completely.
>Says he finds it hard to believe
>This is literally common sense.
I'm not really arguing your points rather than that you too voice suppositions and opinions and state them as fact.
You also made it seem like a woman will -nevereverever- be able to enjoy sex again(I understand that this may not be what you mean, but it's essentially what you said.), and that all woman who give birth will have their junk seriously fucked up forever, which is not the case at all.
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Chlor wrote...
I'm not really arguing your points rather than that you too voice suppositions and opinions and state them as fact.
You also made it seem like a woman will -nevereverever- be able to enjoy sex again(I understand that this may not be what you mean, but it's essentially what you said.), and that all woman who give birth will have their junk seriously fucked up forever, which is not the case at all.
It's not the same. The first [6 weeks-ish, it's more for some women], it is physical hell.
Live birth -does- fuck your junk up. Unless you have it surgically reconstructed, or you deliver via cesarean, you -will- have tearing. The extent usually depends on the size of the infant/infant's head... but yeah. Your junk won't come out in one piece. I will say, again, that the extent varies case to case... but on a large scale, sex for a woman post-childbirth is definitely different.
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I'm just eating cheerios and thinking that most of us here have never been in labor and most of these useless statements are assumptions rather than actual experience.
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echoeagle3
Oppai Overlord
Lollikittie wrote...
>He was asking if sex hurts after labor, why have another child.
>I repeatedly told him there's a healing process
>He ignores it completely.
>Says he finds it hard to believe
>This is literally common sense.
I did not ignore you. From what I understood you were trying to say that women or couples never enjoy having sex after they have a child. I never denied that there was a healing process. All I was saying is that there is no way that women or couples never enjoy sex again after having a child. Not that there wasn't a healing process. I don't think you understood me
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animefreak_usa
Child of Samael
say what! wrote...
I'm just eating cheerios and thinking that most of us here have never been in labor and most of these useless statements are assumptions rather than actual experience.I delivered a five kilo mud baby and a stone the size of a ping pong ball. Sounding made it easier.
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Lollikittie wrote...
Chlor wrote...
I'm not really arguing your points rather than that you too voice suppositions and opinions and state them as fact.
You also made it seem like a woman will -nevereverever- be able to enjoy sex again(I understand that this may not be what you mean, but it's essentially what you said.), and that all woman who give birth will have their junk seriously fucked up forever, which is not the case at all.
It's not the same. The first [6 weeks-ish, it's more for some women], it is physical hell.
Live birth -does- fuck your junk up. Unless you have it surgically reconstructed, or you deliver via cesarean, you -will- have tearing. The extent usually depends on the size of the infant/infant's head... but yeah. Your junk won't come out in one piece. I will say, again, that the extent varies case to case... but on a large scale, sex for a woman post-childbirth is definitely different.
Backpedaling, darling.
Your initial statement was that they could never enjoy sex again.
Lollikittie wrote...
This video got featured on our early morning news. I don't know how I feel about it, a lot of women think it still isn't as bad as labor pain. I think for women, labor pain isn't just the contractions, but the tearing that takes place when a melon shoves its way through a hole the size of a lemon, and then the subsequent fact that you are now ruined in the eyes of your male lover. You piss weird for the rest of your life. Sex becomes excruciating. Your plumbing is busted. Just.. ruined.
All wounds heal, kitty. Maybe not completely- but definitely enough to go wild in bed again.
I've a great number of ladyfriends and my own sister who've all sorts of tales about pregnancy, labour, and childbirth- but they all affirmed to me (some more graphically than others) that they still jump their man's bones with great vigour and have delightful romps.
I'm suspecting that perhaps you've just been unfortunate enough to have witnessed a very rough childbirth, and that you are basing all your information on that one example. The fact that it's something that may happen to you also contributes to the whole thing searing a very vivid image into your mind- one that we men don't have to deal with.
Also- if witnessing childbirth puts men off their women... well...
those men are not fit to be called men.
Sissies, more like.
Not the sort of man you'd want to stick with- in any case. He'll raise your kids to be absolute pansies with fewer guts than a fish in the fryer.
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animefreak_usa wrote...
say what! wrote...
I'm just eating cheerios and thinking that most of us here have never been in labor and most of these useless statements are assumptions rather than actual experience.I delivered a five kilo mud baby and a stone the size of a ping pong ball. Sounding made it easier.
what did you eat?