Netorare. An already old and boring fad
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NTR has it own charm to it. Doesn't it depend on the individual to decide whether it is good or not?
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Sneakyone wrote...
This again? There have been so many threads about this topic they should have a sticky for it.I always get shit sticky when I am reading ntr...if you know what I mean!
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The fact that this person hasn't responded leads me to believe that he just wanted to incite conversations :\
I'm personally not netorare's biggest fan, but i like a few, just like most other fetishes.
EDIT- not to mention the misleading title, makes you think hes gonna bash netorare, but then bashes vanilla >.
I'm personally not netorare's biggest fan, but i like a few, just like most other fetishes.
EDIT- not to mention the misleading title, makes you think hes gonna bash netorare, but then bashes vanilla >.
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ieatblueWaffle wrote...
Bikkurishita wrote...
ieatblueWaffle wrote...
Bikkurishita wrote...
It's not the act of netorare that put put people off, It's the constant use of fat, grotesque, old, ugly men and the In your face misogyny that really bother most of us. Then the fact that it escalates to beastilty, scat and monsters.The distaste is aimed at netorare, People should learn about the counterpart Netori which is by far more exiting to read.
Read my new rant thread if you want a deeper reason from me.
Last time i checked, people read Hentai to fap at the sexy girls, we don't give a fuck what the male character looks like or what he is, i'm not gay, i came for the girls, not for the dudes. and fucking seriously, Misogyny? the hell? If we're gonna talk about shit like that then let me tell you something you're probably in denial off, Hentai has alot more misandry than misogyny, and i can give you a fuckton of examples right now, just say the word, 1 minute is enough to get at least 10 examples from the first 5 pages.
"The distaste is aimed at netorare, People should learn about the counterpart Netori which is by far more exiting to read"
I should have known, fakku community has far more immature hypocrites than i thought.
two words for you: Fuck.Off
To answer the OP, dude, People take Hentai too seriously, WAY TOO SERIOUSLY, these no-life virgins who complain about NTR are insecure and are afraid that when the miracle happens and they somehow manage to get a girlfriend, she gets stolen and leaves them for another guy.
That's the only explanation i can think of.
Surely you jest, Troll harder please. So much aggression, you're the one who takes stuff way too seriously.
What's the most important aspect of any visual work? To be able to see the desired person/object, now take an extreme NTR doujin with a fat stealer & fine woman and then over emphasis on the positions and close ups so you often only see the ugly fatso and his hairy ass. Is that hot according to you? Because that's what most authors do.
It happens a lot in live porn as well.
The creepy thing is that some praise these ugly mofos more than the actual girl hence the grotesque men has turned into an ugly fetish.
Ah the idiotic retort "you must be gay because you complain about the male partner" is so redundant , homophobic and quite Immature of you.
Last time I checked people appreciated a somewhat decent male (and not an over the top looking one) to fuck the woman for it to become more pleasant, I'm not alone on this one since most people actually puts remarks on the overuse of intentionally drawn fat grotesque men on actual netorare doujins.
misandry is not uncommon as well yes but when it comes to Netorare and rape it's misogyny that stands strong.
Netorare is the top contender of silly and goofy plots and it's actually so amusingly bad that it puts guro/monster sex to shame. The defeated and weeping male protagonist makes me yawn and serves no purpose tbh. You don't care for him in most cases.
Now netoris on the other hand still makes for some really dark stories but albeit the author doesn't emphasize on the loosing male.
I wish people and authors would stop using ntr as a universal term for netorare and Netori since it's confusing and gives netori a bad name.
If you ask most people on fakku you'll realize most people actually appreciate a nice story to go along with the fap, some might even say they aren't reading it to jerk off. Why is that? Because most authors put effort into making a intrigue and exciting story, some even succeeds at making us laugh our ass off. So it's not just created for the sake of relieving your urges, that's why most live porno's bores me.
Good day to you sir.
I'm the only one who takes stuff way too seriously?
Right, because i'm the moron who's complaining about NTR knowing that there are people who're into that. go shove that logic up your ass you dickless sack of crap.
You calling NTR "extreme" proves that you lack alot of knowledge when it comes down to Hentai, or porn generally, since there's some shit that'll make you want to poke your eyes out, and NTR is definitely not one of them.
Ah, the "homophobic" insult (or is it, really?) these dumbass overly sensitive immature homofacists who think they're right and everyone else is wrong because they disagree with a lifestyle, use, holyshit dude, i just realized you're another internet lowlife scum, although i already had a guess before.
I'll have you know that i'll take an ugly fat hairy man over a wimpy dickless faggot of a male protagonist who can't do shit on his own and is a submissive little bitch.
Like i said, misandry is alot more common than misogyny, and like i said, i'd give you at least 10 examples of that right now from just the first 5 pages fakku's home page if you want me to.
"I wish people and authors would stop using ntr as a universal term for netorare and Netori since it's confusing and gives netori a bad name"
Wow, so not only are you an obvious internet troll, and immature overly-sensitive homofacist, but you're also a top notch hypocite who actually shoves his hypocrisy down people's throat.
FYI little dumbfuck, people use NTR as a universal term for netorare because Netorare is alot more common than netori, and "bad name", seriously? as if Netori's name isn't already bad, or you're telling me it's fine for a guy to get his girlfriend stolen but it's not if it's the reverse? Wow dude, just fucking wow, you just made me lose that tiny little bit of faith i had in humanity, this shit is hopeless with morons like you.
good day to you twat.
...damn....just damn. XD
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My opinion of why i like NTR and others hate it:
I am secure in my penis size and ability to please a woman. i am also able to dismiss a partner who cheats on me fairly easily*. when i read NTR i find it easier to relate to the the character doing the stealing. i think most haters relate to the 'victim'. possibly out of fears of sexual performance inadaquacy and insecurity about the penis size.
i think that plays into my enjoyment too. growing up in the US, most all movies and stories have "happy endings". it refreshing to see the "hero" take a fall sometimes.
* [size=10]i have been cheated on several times, and(almost**) every time they tried to come back, but i turned them down. why would i want to stay with someone who cheated on me?[/h]
** [size=10]one was an animal in bed, so i kept fucking her, but no longer considered it a serious relationship.[/h]
I am secure in my penis size and ability to please a woman. i am also able to dismiss a partner who cheats on me fairly easily*. when i read NTR i find it easier to relate to the the character doing the stealing. i think most haters relate to the 'victim'. possibly out of fears of sexual performance inadaquacy and insecurity about the penis size.
Afro Thunda wrote...
I like Netorare because I like Bad Ends/Trainwreck Endings. The worse, more grating the NTR is, the better. Basically, stories where the good guy doesn't come out on top I find much more entertaining a read than anything else. i think that plays into my enjoyment too. growing up in the US, most all movies and stories have "happy endings". it refreshing to see the "hero" take a fall sometimes.
* [size=10]i have been cheated on several times, and(almost**) every time they tried to come back, but i turned them down. why would i want to stay with someone who cheated on me?[/h]
** [size=10]one was an animal in bed, so i kept fucking her, but no longer considered it a serious relationship.[/h]
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gardeford wrote...
The fact that this person hasn't responded leads me to believe that he just wanted to incite conversations :\I'm personally not netorare's biggest fan, but i like a few, just like most other fetishes.
EDIT- not to mention the misleading title, makes you think hes gonna bash netorare, but then bashes vanilla >.<
dongs
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I like both NTR and vanilla, it's just that I tend to find more interesting storyline in NTR, albeit illogical most of the time. As for vanilla, well, there sure is some nice pieces out there with excellent storyline, but most of vanilla things I've encountered are mostly boring with only emphasis on happy sex.
Basic guideline for good NTR and/or vanilla:
Also,
Basic guideline for good NTR and/or vanilla:
Kaimax wrote...
Good vanilla is when you thought it's gonna be an NTR, and good NTR is when you thought it's gonna be a vanilla.Also,
Afro Thunda wrote...
You rage, you lose.
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People feel that are the main character of what they read a manga. From Sherlock Holmes to Naruto, it is a basic notion.
in NTR main char get trolled/cheated
do you like to get trolled/cheated?
Those who doesnt not hate NTR are only people who read book and perceive them in 3rd person view.
in NTR main char get trolled/cheated
do you like to get trolled/cheated?
Those who doesnt not hate NTR are only people who read book and perceive them in 3rd person view.
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Personally speaking, I'm married with kids but I find NTR absolutely the most exciting things to read/watch. Now, do you think I would ever want that to happen to me in real life? Or would I like to be cuck-held by my wife? No.
There's a clear distinction between fantasy and reality in my mind, maybe that's why I love NTR so much. It's my mind and I'll think/fap to anything I want.
There's a clear distinction between fantasy and reality in my mind, maybe that's why I love NTR so much. It's my mind and I'll think/fap to anything I want.
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ieatblueWaffle wrote...
Bikkurishita wrote...
ieatblueWaffle wrote...
Bikkurishita wrote...
It's not the act of netorare that put put people off, It's the constant use of fat, grotesque, old, ugly men and the In your face misogyny that really bother most of us. Then the fact that it escalates to beastilty, scat and monsters.The distaste is aimed at netorare, People should learn about the counterpart Netori which is by far more exiting to read.
Read my new rant thread if you want a deeper reason from me.
Last time i checked, people read Hentai to fap at the sexy girls, we don't give a fuck what the male character looks like or what he is, i'm not gay, i came for the girls, not for the dudes. and fucking seriously, Misogyny? the hell? If we're gonna talk about shit like that then let me tell you something you're probably in denial off, Hentai has alot more misandry than misogyny, and i can give you a fuckton of examples right now, just say the word, 1 minute is enough to get at least 10 examples from the first 5 pages.
"The distaste is aimed at netorare, People should learn about the counterpart Netori which is by far more exiting to read"
I should have known, fakku community has far more immature hypocrites than i thought.
two words for you: Fuck.Off
To answer the OP, dude, People take Hentai too seriously, WAY TOO SERIOUSLY, these no-life virgins who complain about NTR are insecure and are afraid that when the miracle happens and they somehow manage to get a girlfriend, she gets stolen and leaves them for another guy.
That's the only explanation i can think of.
Surely you jest, Troll harder please. So much aggression, you're the one who takes stuff way too seriously.
What's the most important aspect of any visual work? To be able to see the desired person/object, now take an extreme NTR doujin with a fat stealer & fine woman and then over emphasis on the positions and close ups so you often only see the ugly fatso and his hairy ass. Is that hot according to you? Because that's what most authors do.
It happens a lot in live porn as well.
The creepy thing is that some praise these ugly mofos more than the actual girl hence the grotesque men has turned into an ugly fetish.
Ah the idiotic retort "you must be gay because you complain about the male partner" is so redundant , homophobic and quite Immature of you.
Last time I checked people appreciated a somewhat decent male (and not an over the top looking one) to fuck the woman for it to become more pleasant, I'm not alone on this one since most people actually puts remarks on the overuse of intentionally drawn fat grotesque men on actual netorare doujins.
misandry is not uncommon as well yes but when it comes to Netorare and rape it's misogyny that stands strong.
Netorare is the top contender of silly and goofy plots and it's actually so amusingly bad that it puts guro/monster sex to shame. The defeated and weeping male protagonist makes me yawn and serves no purpose tbh. You don't care for him in most cases.
Now netoris on the other hand still makes for some really dark stories but albeit the author doesn't emphasize on the loosing male.
I wish people and authors would stop using ntr as a universal term for netorare and Netori since it's confusing and gives netori a bad name.
If you ask most people on fakku you'll realize most people actually appreciate a nice story to go along with the fap, some might even say they aren't reading it to jerk off. Why is that? Because most authors put effort into making a intrigue and exciting story, some even succeeds at making us laugh our ass off. So it's not just created for the sake of relieving your urges, that's why most live porno's bores me.
Good day to you sir.
I'm the only one who takes stuff way too seriously?
Right, because i'm the moron who's complaining about NTR knowing that there are people who're into that. go shove that logic up your ass you dickless sack of crap.
You calling NTR "extreme" proves that you lack alot of knowledge when it comes down to Hentai, or porn generally, since there's some shit that'll make you want to poke your eyes out, and NTR is definitely not one of them.
Ah, the "homophobic" insult (or is it, really?) these dumbass overly sensitive immature homofacists who think they're right and everyone else is wrong because they disagree with a lifestyle, use, holyshit dude, i just realized you're another internet lowlife scum, although i already had a guess before.
I'll have you know that i'll take an ugly fat hairy man over a wimpy dickless faggot of a male protagonist who can't do shit on his own and is a submissive little bitch.
Like i said, misandry is alot more common than misogyny, and like i said, i'd give you at least 10 examples of that right now from just the first 5 pages fakku's home page if you want me to.
"I wish people and authors would stop using ntr as a universal term for netorare and Netori since it's confusing and gives netori a bad name"
Wow, so not only are you an obvious internet troll, and immature overly-sensitive homofacist, but you're also a top notch hypocite who actually shoves his hypocrisy down people's throat.
FYI little dumbfuck, people use NTR as a universal term for netorare because Netorare is alot more common than netori, and "bad name", seriously? as if Netori's name isn't already bad, or you're telling me it's fine for a guy to get his girlfriend stolen but it's not if it's the reverse? Wow dude, just fucking wow, you just made me lose that tiny little bit of faith i had in humanity, this shit is hopeless with morons like you.
good day to you twat.
Who's the troll here? It's obviously you. Ease down on the cussing dude!
Yeah, well, that's just, like, your opinion, man.
I've seen it all and what I meant by extreme Netorare is when they include the sick shit of other genres therefore extreme. Is that so hard to understand? The weird shit isn't really a mindfuck anymore for me. It's jaded so to say.
So you're the white knight of grotesque men?Woah,Watch Out We Got A Badass Over Here
The male partner is only made weak by the Netorare artist because it benefits his lazy story, i bet you would've raged if your precious fatso had been turned into a little crying bitch by an anti Netorare plot since you don't get to see his hairy smelly ass in action.
No but the fatsoes serve no purpose and they are blessed with godmode so it's like playing a game against a cheater.
The protagonist can be interesting if they have traits of those real men like Spike, Kamina and Lupin. Why it's so popular to use wimpy feeble beta shota males as a protagonist nowadays is beyond me but it's stupid i agree.
Netorare is alright as long as it's not grotesque men doing the stealing, what? I'm not allowed to say they have no reedeming features and lack personality most of the times. They shouldn't be given sex guru traits. It's pointless
Also give me one good reason why netori shouldn't have it's own separate tag? It give's a story a whole different perspective and enables a third person look on the whole ordeal.
"you're telling me it's fine for a guy to get his girlfriend stolen but it's not if it's the reverse?"
We shouldn't be denied the other side of the coin & who said it had to be someones girlfriend? It could be any woman in particular, where her partner is an asshole but she loves him, however the "normal looking" stealer is doing the unfortunate woman a favor. That's netori for yah and it gives it a different touch to the plot. Everything doesn't have to end in a nihilistic manner. that gets boring.
Bring on your so called misandry examples, I'm ready to counter them any day. I looked through fakku's front page & I didn't even find a single one!
I know I cannot change peoples opinions, I had no intention of doing such a thing to begin with. But does that prohibit me from pointing out flaws about a genre?
I usually see people like you passed-out on tavern floors.
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NTR is about bad person who is doing bad things. It's simple. The thing is that some of the people like to watch how bad things happen with OTHER peoples. I see it that way. And to be honest I always try to think about the suffer characters have to deal with. Liking of that, make you a villain who gain joy from other unhappiness.
Nothing good about it as far I can see. =\
Nothing good about it as far I can see. =\
