What do you think of child porn?

One-trillionth pedo apologism thread in SD, and by a mod no less? I call massive troll on this one.

Anyways, yeah, it offends and disgusts me to no end, but the way it serves as cheap political capital is equally disgusting, the end.

Depends on your definition of a child. Legally, in the United States anyway, that's anyone under the age of eighteen. In which case a lot of us would be thrown in jail because there is a lot of amateur porn out there where you can be guaranteed not all of the girls are eighteen. You just have to be careful of what you watch, and if the girl looks like she is clearly not eighteen then you just have to shut it off and pretend nothing happened.

That's why viewing child pornography is a hard case for the government to pursue. They go after sites that distribute material that hosts questionable-aged pornography, but rarely go after viewers in the IP logs because who is to say you were aware of what you were viewing. It isn't illegal for you to visit a porn site that doesn't have a title 18 U.S.C. 2257, so you don't have any proof of the ages of actors. *shrugs*

I like Lolli, but CP is SICK and WRONG to me!

Ya my avi is pretty loli, but it's anime :X, in anime world it's fine! Real world it's sick and gross.. wow now I feel so conflicted....

Nothing. Really nothing. Well atleast not much. I don't want to watch CP but I don't bother if other people do it. The general reaction to CP is highly exaggerated. It's simply that there are many themes wich are much more urgent, when there is a lot of hunger in the african countries then it affects maybe 5% of the world population and causes suffering, death and corruption. Also it's something you can do something serious against it. But still most people dont really care about it. CP maybe affects an millionth of the world and you can't do anything against it (because the problem is to small). But still allmost everybody cares about it...

Child porn = Wrong
Lolicon kept in the hentai world = Right and wrong (Fake yet its children or underdeveloped)

People take this sort of thing seriously and could lead to problems.

1. Photo of YOURSELF naked under 18 = Bad
2. Photos of others naked under 18 = Bad

3. Photos of child porn on your cellphone = Bad and regardless if you delete the company your with has to save them into their database just in case of investigation reasons. Same thing applys to texts and anything else; It's a law.

4. Breaking this law gets you somewhere around 6 months to 2 years in prison.

Summing it up: Not a wise choice to make.

Since it all comes down to how you want to define cp I'll just say that non consensual sex is bad, and having sex with people who are to young to have sex is bad, the rest i don't mind.

child porn = BAD, but at what age it switches to real CP I am not going to judge.

I really have no objections as long as they were going to have sex anyway. 18, 21, or whatever age is just an arbitrary limit.
I know up to a certain age the parents have the responsibility, but I am a strong advocate for letting people make their own decisions (and mistakes), heck only a hundred years ago it was common to send ten year olds out of the house to start working, so why can't a 16 year old decide to do porn?

Not advocating young people to do porn, I am advocating the choice to do so if they wish.

Never liked CP, it pisses me off thinking of those girls losing their childhood times and getting trauma and stuff. Even in hentai, when i see an incest doujin featuring a 12 y.o it turns me off. Different story if it's loli which is adult with childlike figure.

And let's hope Japan's Democratic Party doesn't legalize the 'CP' bill. If that bill goes through in June then we have to say goodbye to our loli.

CP is wrong, hands down. Since a 'child' (The term Child is real vague, I consider a 'child' under the age of 16-18 ) is more or less mentally incapable of knowing what's happening to it, I'm not saying that a 16yo don't know what sex is all about, but I'm doubting that an 8 year old fully understands the concept. The 8 year old is also yet incapable of fully separating right from wrong, especially in such a stressful and unusual situation and can and probably will therefor develop serious mental trauma. And not to mention that most CP is probably forced rape, meaning in a situation where the child is unable to protect itself, and not the case where the child is persuaded to do it.



That depends on where you're living. In my country that law(Or a similar law) was enforced just last year.



I agree, while I do occasionally enjoy loli, if they state that the girl is a child it immediately turns me off.

Hm. I would say it's more.. exploiting the children. A child in my mind is from the ages of 4-14, and they probably have no idea about whats happening to them, or STD's, or pregnancy, and stuff like that. It's totally wrong ._.

SERIOUS, NON-TROLL POST

In English law, there's far harsher penalties if the child is under 13. The age of consent is 16 but if they're 13-16, you're legally seen as being a bit of a bastard whereas if they're 12 or less, you're legally seen as being fucked up. I think that more or less makes sense since if you go to a club, there'll be loads of girls aged around 14-15 in there and they're every bit as focused on getting with some guy as the girls aged 18+ (the legal age to be in a club).

There was also a case of an 11 year old girl that waited outside a pub in Wales for guys to come out, chatted one up and then went home and had sex with him. The guy was actually let off by the judge because it was ruled that the girl did in fact look 16+, the whole jury agreed, and that she knew exactly what she was doing. So legally at least, they do bend the rules if the child isn't obviously acting how we think a child should act. It also raises the question, aren't you actually more taking advantage of an 18 year old girl with down's syndrome than you are of an 14 year old girl with a normal mind? The DS girl will always have the mental age of a child and yet she's "OK" to fuck because of how long ago she was born?

The real problem is when it's less black and white. A girl I know that I used to babysit, who was 9 at the time, sent a voicemail to my mobile phone in which her and her friend said "we saw you getting changed, you have a cute butt!!" I obviously didn't want to fuck them anyway, but even if I swung that way, it would be pretty obvious that that was just them getting more aware of boys and being a bit cheeky, not an invitation to make a live action version of that scene from Little Monica.

Also, the Virgin Mary was 14 when God made her pregnant with Our Lord And Saviour (and if she really was magically a virgin, that means a baby's head somehow fitted out of her virgin vagina and through her hymen - now that is a miracle), and the age of consent is 12 in Vatican City. The more you know!

Since it's been shown that children can be fucked up by experiencing sex before they're ready (for the sake of argument, let's say it's before puberty), I see no reason to not be against child pornography. Damn, that's a double negative. I see reason to be against child pornography. There, that's better.

Children's minds are fragile, and things that don't seem serious can greatly impact them. Let's say you just get your 6-year-old sister to take her shirt off and let you take a picture of her. (And you're over 18.) She'd probably think nothing of it, but in a few years, she might remember the incident and ponder what it meant. So, imagine a 12-year-old girl remembering how her brother took a picture of her bare chest with a devilish smirk on his face. Because that's how it works - it sticks with the child. If you hurt an adult (physically or mentally), the adult has a good change of overcoming it within a certain amount of time (though some adults don't get over some things). When you hurt a child, the chances of the child getting over it are dramatically lower. Something that happens to you as a child is likely to still be in your head when you're an adult.

To put it a simpler way, child molestation is illegal, for good reason. Child porn involves child molestation, so it should also be illegal. Not just illegal, they should be seen as horrible things that should never be done (so no one thinks, "I'll play with this kid's genitals, it's not wrong," in case you need a reason).

First and foremost what defines a person as a child? Maturity, legal system? what?

Speaking on an instinctual level for humans, it is actualy quite natural for a male to have sexual intrest in a girl in the early teens age range ( anything younger well they do have issues) This stems from humans naturally do not live as long as we do now, this is do mostly to medical science.

on the society level of things.. it is view as wrong.. yet the more and more i research society and compare it to a human on a primal level everything conflicts.

If you were to ask me about it well, theres numerous factors that are involved.

#1 would be as said at the top... What defines the diffrence between a child and adult? the age of consent varies majorly across the world. if memory serves 14 is the youngest (dont qoute me on this laws might have changed)

#2 Is Said Child Aware of what it is their doing? and are they okay with it.

With all of that said as long as the Child is aware of what is going on and are okay with it, i fail to see an issue


Edit: To further the discussion... to those of you who took sex ed in school how young were you when it was first placed infront of you? Myself i was 9

I feel anyone who hasn't gone through puberty yet shouldn't be having sex, and i look down on those who would have sex with someone who hasn't gone through puberty. The lowest that is comfortable with me is two teens together.

CP i currently still seen as morally wrong by the general public and i have no intention on challenging that view.

Besides, children cannot see the consequences of such things themselves and parents wouldn't ever allow it. Effectively turning it into a rape class situation.