Winter Writing Contest Wrap-up: Campaigning and Mudslinging

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leonard267 wrote...

Actually come to think of it, the same applies for almost every single parody with the possible exceptions of the book review and Dawn of Dark's parody.


well, I think if it at least could be entertaining, no need for it to make that much of sense.
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leonard267 FAKKU Non-Writer
10. Parody of leonard267's entry: Another Analysis!

I have stated quite clearly that the Campaigning and Mudslinging thread would differ from other elections in the sense that it would give reasons on why my most excellent entry for the competition ought to be voted for. Indeed I should do so in a few sentences.

It is work of art produced by one of the self-proclaimed finest minds on this site, encyclopedic was his knowledge in making people blanch with his writing. He has a vision for the standards of writing on this pornographic website and the effort he put into lowering the standards of writing in this esteemed section is immeasurable.

No other work equals that of leonard267's in megalomaniacal and narcissistic tendencies, the inability to present plot and detail in a logical fashion, the astounding capacity to churn out the nonsensical and the absurd, the stridency displayed in making mountains out of molehills and splitting hairs and the divide in opinion amongst those who with a sense of humour and those who don't.

We have the messiah incarnate in our midst! Shouldn't we as mere mortals do our very best to ensure that his work and legacy endure the ravages of time? Here is a list of pointers inspired from analyses of His great work on how to write like Him:

How to Write Like Leonard267

1. Be utterly verbose. Use overly long sentences that string together many ideas at once. Never mind that the end product is difficult to read. Eg: However, the drunk people in the bar being drunk, begun stripping my clothes off in some bizarre dance sequence that involves poles and scantily clad women who are very poor candidates for lifelong partners.

2. Lots of explanations and justifications. However, they must not adhere to logic. Eg: Margaret Thatcher and I may not be human... Yet, just as I was entertaining the possibility that I would become a female Prime Minister, get backstabbed... (How does sharing a similarity with a female Prime Minister result in me becoming one?)

3. Contain references that only you can understand. Eg: It was rather obvious that these feelings of unhappiness have mutated into a desire for war on Earth and ill will to all mankind.

4. Referencing obscure references through the use of links. Eg: I was told by some section of an online forum that I need to mingle with more people.

5. Repetition. Eg: My thoughts turned to whether they were given a fuel allowance to tide the cold of the winter. My thoughts also turned to whether their homes have central heating in the first place.

6. Colourful and bright fonts. Eg: DON'T THINK THAT THE YEAR END FESTIVITIES ARE ALL THAT GOOD.

7. Random tone shifts that confuse the poor reader. Eg: They were nonetheless happy, even though they risk sending themselves to the gates of Hades by doing it at such an advanced age. Yet, more importantly, I am not happy.

8. Crazed rambling made possible through feelings of anger and frustration that makes one prone to complaining. Eg: PRETTY MUCH WHATEVER I WRITE!
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I have never been too into parodies, but as promised, I read your work! It took a little while to get through all of them, but I did it anyway! They're all quite well written and you do a good job at pointing out fallacies so it gave me a good chuckle. Keep up the good work! If you continue to make more, I give you permission to do away with my submissions, haha.
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leonard267 FAKKU Non-Writer
crazr wrote...
I have never been too into parodies, but as promised, I read your work! It took a little while to get through all of them, but I did it anyway! They're all quite well written and you do a good job at pointing out fallacies so it gave me a good chuckle. Keep up the good work! If you continue to make more, I give you permission to do away with my submissions, haha.


I have to commend you for having to put up with my writing! I have one more for you and it is terribly long at over five thousand words and much less readable (if that can even be possible) than the previous 10 entries. Others and myself have remarked on it and I agree with them that it is actually too short!

It is in the edited first post of the thread. It is technically a parody and definitely inspired by a contest entry. Should you want to read it, do take seriously my warnings about it being 'long and dreary'(also written in the first post).
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On "Yes, It is a Funeral",

I thought that this was going to recount the tale of funeral crashers.

I liked the list and how it tied into thy other post. I will admit that I was a little surprised when I saw the word "eschatological" on my first reading. I had to recall exactly what it meant, although thou did a fine job in supplying the word with its meaning with the context of the next sentences.

Now before the list, I found this very interesting thing:

leonard267 wrote...
So boring and repetitive the speeches were, HumbugsAssociate made a checklist to entertain himself:


How is this interesting thou ask? Grammatically speaking, the bold spot is an example of an absolute phrase. From the grammar book that I regularly use, it isn't even mentioned. I only know of it by my Harbrace handbook, which only gives it a passing mention.

leonard267 wrote...
Who knew that man in the coffin had tastes for old women?


Everyone's got a fetish.
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leonard267 FAKKU Non-Writer
The Logophile wrote...
On "Yes, It is a Funeral",

I thought that this was going to recount the tale of funeral crashers.

I liked the list and how it tied into thy other post. I will admit that I was a little surprised when I saw the word "eschatological" on my first reading. I had to recall exactly what it meant, although thou did a fine job in supplying the word with its meaning with the context of the next sentences.

Now before the list, I found this very interesting thing:

leonard267 wrote...
So boring and repetitive the speeches were, HumbugsAssociate made a checklist to entertain himself:


How is this interesting thou ask? Grammatically speaking, the bold spot is an example of an absolute phrase. From the grammar book that I regularly use, it isn't even mentioned. I only know of it by my Harbrace handbook, which only gives it a passing mention.

leonard267 wrote...
Who knew that man in the coffin had tastes for old women?


Everyone's got a fetish.


While both of us know the meaning of "eschatology", I am sure it wouldn't hurt for me to explain what it means to the person (if he or she exists in the first place) who is reading it.

Christian and Islamic eschatology posits that one day all of humanity would be subject to judgement. Needless to say, that day is known as "Judgement Day".

Buddhist eschatology surmises that the accumulation of bad deeds and thoughts (otherwise known as karma) would lead to never-ending disasters and eventual doomsday for all mankind.

The Confucians and Taoists, being Chinese, could not bother themselves with eschatology.

English grammar merits a study, so does Japanese grammar. I understand them to very complex and at times seemingly inconsistent. I'd hate to be tested that in an examination but it would make a good hobby where I can study them at my leisure. Thanks for introducing absolute phrases to me.

You may know that I am unable to come up with stories so I settle for making fun of existing material be they current affairs or anything else that I've heard or read.
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leonard267 FAKKU Non-Writer
ED: The Cesspit is drained and laid bare. I believe it was deleted by accident. However, the mudslinging continues never mind that the title of the thread is called the Winter Writing Contest Wrap-Up! Here is a parody of an entry for the Summer Writing Contest of 2016

1. Parody of Masayoshi's Entry - Blizzards During August

A friend told me that I am determined to make whatever I read into a comedy. Your entry is no different. A few ideas came into my mind as I read your entry about the plight of your character and what could have caused a snowstorm in the summer. This is the result:

Spoiler:
Blizzards during August

James was a man who is a product of his times. He is a bright and young bachelor, living by himself in a rather spacious apartment and is currently on a sabbatical of sorts to enrich himself with a university course. This is of course a tactful way of saying that he is living hand to mouth with no girlfriend let alone fiancée in a poorly maintained rented apartment after taking on huge amounts of debt to finance his studies at a university for a degree of questionable value in the job market.

He worked for a pittance in a part time job while managing schoolwork. However, since, he is unwilling or unable to set aside time for housekeeping, his home resembled something that one sees in a warzone with clothes carelessly strewn, papers littered all over the floor with the occasional vermin darting to and fro. It was not the best of circumstances but James managed to keep his sanity by ironically harbouring self-delusions of him leading the life of that object of adoration, the eligible and sought after bachelor. It was not desirable but he managed until that very fateful day in which the story will go into detail.

It all started when James woke up to the sound of a barely functional television set that was tucked in the corner of his apartment, featuring a newsreader who said the following:

"This August saw the highest global average temperatures ever since records begun. Scientists say that should the trend of ever rising temperatures continue, in less than one decade, farmers will be put out of jobs due to bumper crops decimating food prices, seal populations will drop due to thinning ice encouraging polar bear predation, textile industries will be badly hit due to staggering drops in demand of winter clothing and healthcare conglomerates will risk collapse due to a lack of illnesses brought about by the cold.

In other news, the searing August heat has sent hordes of refugees thronging the already crowded beaches. Residents living near beachfronts all over the country have expressed apprehension over the scantily clad arrivals..."


Just as the first sound he heard was the reading of the news on the television, the first action he took that fateful day was an almighty yank of the power cable that connected the television to the power source. These were followed by the first words he uttered for the day which were,

"Bloody right wing propaganda..."

James was rightly sceptical of what he heard on the news for he wasn't enjoying a warm and pleasant summer, he wasn't even chafing under the summer heat. Instead his body was convulsed by an unseasonal cold spell made all the worse by the fact that he was dressed for the summer.

With his arms and legs quivering involuntarily due to the sheer cold, he stared intently at the thermostat for a few minutes which of course showed very low temperatures and then he opened the dust caked curtains only to find that the windows were covered in frost. If James thought that by doing so, he would be reassured that his sensory faculties are not out of order, he'd be right and relieved. If James thought that by doing so, the weather would revert back to normal, he'd be wrong and delusional. Either way, the more he stared at thermostats and frosty windows the more he was convinced that winter had come and that he would be badly screwed.

This crisis of sorts was accentuated by the fact that he had little money on him and that his friends and family were physically rather far away from him now. This of course made it quite difficult for him to seek help from others.

James can of course choose to help himself but there were a few impediments. First, he attempted to leave the apartment only to find out that the winds were strong and it was snowing. Second and rather damning for James, was that despite the amount of rent he had to pay, the heating appliances in his apartment weren't functioning. Third and perhaps most important of all, James, to be very polite, was not the proactive type who can brave snowfalls and think of ways to keep himself warm that do not involve electrical appliances.

This left James in quite a conundrum and he could have been on the way to a mental breakdown if not for the television, his mobile phone and his laptop, these devices to which men and women of this age look to for spiritual solace. James could at least reach out to people he knew and source for information pertaining to his wintry predicament.

He reattached the plug for his television set as quickly as he pulled it out a short while ago only to be treated to yet more dry news,

"An unseasonal cold snap is paralysing parts of the country due to cold winds blowing from the warming Arctic. Scientists are unsure how long the cold snap will last with projections lasting from a few days to a few weeks. They are however certain that this is caused by increasing global temperatures worldwide..."

James, who was rather dismissive of the news moments ago, took this report rather seriously. Waiting for the cold snap to go away and for normal summer weather to return is not an option for him now seeing that it might last a few days if he is lucky or several if he wasn't. Either way, it was a death sentence of sorts. Yet, like any patient who is diagnosed with AIDS or any other terminal disease, James decided to seek a second opinion, this time from his laptop, searching for news from 'alternate news sites' and internet fora, those bastions of unquestionable truth for men and women of this age. He went to a few sites and read a few articles pertaining to the weather (or climate) conditions over at his place. Here are a few explanations that were noteworthy but not for reasons a sane and rational man might think:

1. Contrails are used to increase the concentration of aerosol-like gases that will cool the atmosphere thereby lowering temperatures. This might explain the frequency of fighter jets whizzing across the sky spewing their climate cooling gases in the process.

2. State of the art weather machines are discreetly installed at locations around the city. Supposedly, these machines are able to create what is known as a 'endothermic reverse heat island effect' which lower temperatures city wide. The technology behind these weather machines are so 'state of the art' that even conspiracy theory websites have difficulty concocting what might be the mechanism of those machines.

Here are a few suggestions about why the forces that be want such weather (or climate) conditions:

1. There is a Malthusian and Darwinian conspiracy to freeze part of the population to death thereby saving the Earth and eliminating persons who cannot stand a bit of cold from passing their genes down to future generations. The government would not need to dole out that many pensions and they could balance their budgetary deficits from a hike in death taxes.

2. The insurance oligarchy is seeking to eliminate competition from smaller insurance firms by creating extreme weather conditions that result in lots of illnesses, deaths and even more claims. These claims would of course bankrupt their competitors and in the dearth of competition, the insurance oligarchy can raise premiums that will be imposed on a gullible public who thinks that buying more insurance would mean more security for them.

3. A sinister circle of those from the baby boomer generation are in collusion with the insurance oligarchy to take advantage of the deaths of their parents who are from the supposedly "Greatest Generation" but not great enough to survive the cold once they turn old and decrepit, and their "Generation Snowflake" millennial children who ironically are more likely to die in a blizzard or a cold snap than those from the "Greatest Generation", to claim insurance money.

4. The government wishes to build a large natural reserve and amusement theme park called "Winterland" around the area where James lived. This natural reserve will be home to flora and fauna that tend to inhabit the tundra. By bringing the permafrost further south from the Arctic Circle, the government hopes to reel in dollars from masochistic tourists who want to experience sub zero temperatures all year round.

Reading that warmed the cockles of James's heart that prior to this, was slowly sinking into despair. He laughed, laughed and laughed till he developed a very bad cough. Nonetheless, all of that exertion made James forget about the cold and lulled him into a false sense of security that everything will be alright.

"All of these stories in the media are scare stories. Cold snaps don't last for that long and no one can come up with something that contrived to earn money or 'save the Planet'", James thought to himself as he huddled in the corner and shut his eyes in an attempt to go back to sleep though he just woke up hours ago.

Days later, many people died due to the cold snap. However since it happens more or less every year, the media and indeed the general public paid little attention to it.

Weeks later, James's parents were cashing in from the insurance money paid out due to an Act of God which saw James's parents being one son poorer and hundreds of thousands of dollars richer.

Months later, the country enjoyed a short term economic boom brought about by increased economic activity in mortuaries, funeral parlours, insurance companies and hospitals. The government is optimistic that in the years to come, the deficit will narrow due to the drop in welfare and pension payouts.

Years later, the neighbourhood James lived in was turned into a ghost town due to the sheer cold and the permafrost conditions. This was when plans to start a nature reserve at the site where James lived came into being.

What happened to James will happen to you! Take the red pill, open your eyes and free yourself from the herd mentality! Spread the message and answer the call to arms to stop the lizard people from freezing us to death! Buy our health products and supplements to replenish the war chest to fight this war!

This has been a segment of the Conspiracy Theory Show sponsored by impressionable viewers like you.


Original Entry: 正義 submitted Blizzards Before August
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Sup. Read your new thingy.

James was a man who is a product of his times. He is a bright and young bachelor, living by himself in a rather spacious apartment and is currently on a sabbatical of sorts to enrich himself with a university course. This is of course a tactful way of saying that he is living hand to mouth with no girlfriend let alone fiancée in a poorly maintained rented apartment after taking on huge amounts of debt to finance his studies at a university for a degree of questionable value in the job market.

He worked for a pittance in a part time job while managing schoolwork. However, since, he is unwilling or unable to set aside time for housekeeping, his home resembled something that one sees in a warzone with clothes carelessly strewn, papers littered all over the floor with the occasional vermin darting to and fro. It was not the best of circumstances but James managed to keep his sanity by ironically harbouring self-delusions of him leading the life of that object of adoration, the eligible and sought after bachelor. It was not desirable but he managed until that very fateful day in which the story will go into detail.


As I've said before in the past, I don't like this kind of opening. I like stories that dump me into them without prefacing them with info like this. I like to find out that info as the story progresses, not before it starts.

That said, I do like the idea embedded in these paragraphs. Here's this optimistic view of this guy's life, which while true, isn't very realistic. And now here's the shitty realistic version.

. . . seal populations will drop due to thinning ice encouraging polar bear predation . . .


I don't think it would work like that in real life, but I guess that's not the point.

Just as the first sound he heard was the reading of the news on the television, the first action he took that fateful day was an almighty yank of the power cable that connected the television to the power source.


Why would he unplug the TV rather than simply turn it off?

Second and rather damning for James, was that despite the amount of rent he had to pay, the heating appliances in his apartment weren't functioning. Third and perhaps most important of all, James, to be very polite, was not the proactive type who can brave snowfalls and think of ways to keep himself warm that do not involve electrical appliances.


This brings up a point I didn't think of with the original story. Why the shit didn't he just try turning on the heater? Was there no power?

Waiting for the cold snap to go away and for normal summer weather to return is not an option for him now seeing that it might last a few days if he is lucky or a several if he wasn't.


I think this part should be changed since you're telling us info that you just told us.

Toward the end of the story, I don't really like how you just give us lists of the info James finds. However, reading though them wasn't that bad. Because James isn't in the best of positions in life and I know he's bloody cold and wants to find out why, it makes me want to see him succeed at finding out why.

I do find it amusing how James is comforted by the information he digs up so he doesn't do anything and then proceeds to die.

I still don't like your writing style, but I didn't think this was that bad overall.
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leonard267 FAKKU Non-Writer
d(^_^)(^_^)d wrote...
Sup. Read your new thingy.

As I've said before in the past, I don't like this kind of opening. I like stories that dump me into them without prefacing them with info like this. I like to find out that info as the story progresses, not before it starts.


I believe it is a matter of taste? I believe some people find it awkward. It certainly is if that is done in a movie but you are more than familiar with my take that the written word is a completely different medium because it cannot deliver audio and visual cues and so on.

There are classics that begin by introducing the characters and spelling out who they are. Lord of the Rings and The Hobbit certainly did that. I believe the Philosopher's Stone started by introducing Vernon Dursley right at the beginning. A Tale of Two Cities started by explaining the period it is set in. Romeo and Juliet started with a prologue that gave the whole story away!

I hope you won't mind me saying again that without this information, I would be completely lost. This is one of the major reasons why I don't take to what you write.


I don't think it would work like that in real life, but I guess that's not the point.


You might have noticed the satirical nature of this piece where I mock current affairs. There is some truth to it. Thinning ice makes it easier for polar bears to prey on seals. Seals also like thinning ice as it allows them to surface and take in air making them very vulnerable to polar bear predation. As to whether seal populations will drop, well, if you want to split hairs, then you are probably right.


Why would he unplug the TV rather than simply turn it off?


Because what he heard was 'bloody right wing propaganda'. I am curious here. Why are you asking these questions?! Shouldn't you be asking why the cold snap because of the cold wind coming from a warming Arctic? (Wouldn't it make sense if I wrote 'colder Arctic'?)


I think this part should be changed since you're telling us info that you just told us.


This will sound condescending but I treat my audience as if they are idiots. I am not doing it well enough though. A lot of people still say that they can't understand what I am writing about.


Toward the end of the story, I don't really like how you just give us lists of the info James finds. However, reading though them wasn't that bad. Because James isn't in the best of positions in life and I know he's bloody cold and wants to find out why, it makes me want to see him succeed at finding out why.


Why not I wonder? I like lists! It makes things easier to read! Why be complex when you can be simple?
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I believe it is a matter of taste?


Exactly why I said "I don't like" and "I like," not, "This is shit. Change it."

I believe some people find it awkward.


Perhaps, but when things are done the way you do them, some people find it boring.

There are classics that begin by introducing the characters and spelling out who they are. Lord of the Rings and The Hobbit certainly did that. I believe the Philosopher's Stone started by introducing Vernon Dursley right at the beginning. A Tale of Two Cities started by explaining the period it is set in. Romeo and Juliet started with a prologue that gave the whole story away!


I know. I'm not saying it's impossible to start a story by having it throw information at you and have it be successful.

I hope you won't mind me saying again that without this information, I would be completely lost. This is one of the major reasons why I don't take to what you write.


I don't mind at all.

There is some truth to it. Thinning ice makes it easier for polar bears to prey on seals. Seals also like thinning ice as it allows them to surface and take in air making them very vulnerable to polar bear predation.


Didn't know that. That's interesting.

Why are you asking these questions?! Shouldn't you be asking why the cold snap because of the cold wind coming from a warming Arctic? (Wouldn't it make sense if I wrote 'colder Arctic'?)


Because I saw some terms and my brain went "science mumbo jumbo!" and glanced over it. It's an excuse to have the weird weather driving the story. That's all I needed to know to continue. That said, it would be nice if it makes sense.

This will sound condescending but I treat my audience as if they are idiots. I am not doing it well enough though. A lot of people still say that they can't understand what I am writing about.


The problem with treating people like idiots is the ones who pick up on it will be instantly turned off. Not sure how people can't understand what you're writing about.

Why not I wonder? I like lists! It makes things easier to read! Why be complex when you can be simple?


Lists are great when you wanna get information across in a paper or presentation, but this is a story!
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leonard267 FAKKU Non-Writer
Perhaps, but when things are done the way you do them, some people find it boring.


Wonder why. I don't find them boring, quite the opposite. I am learning more about a character that I hitherto don't know about. I am putting all of the things that he will be doing in some context. (Here, by establishing that our hero is dirt poor, it would make sense why he is so helpless in the event of a cold snap) Why is it boring for you?

On the other hand, I find your stories not to be engaging because I am completely lost after reading them, mostly because you are very stingy in giving important information. I have to go through your story word for word a number of times, and even after that there is still no guarantee that I will understand what is going on.

Because I saw some terms and my brain went "science mumbo jumbo!" and glanced over it. It's an excuse to have the weird weather driving the story. That's all I needed to know to continue. That said, it would be nice if it makes sense.


You might appreciate the story even better if you had some background knowledge of what I am satirising. It is real, doesn't make sense and I am making fun of it. I am sure that you have heard scientists attributing cold snaps to a warming climate and I am mocking that.

I suggest you read the news reports again in my parody then read about the migrant crisis and the effects of global warming.

The problem with treating people like idiots is the ones who pick up on it will be instantly turned off. Not sure how people can't understand what you're writing about.


They complain about the words I use being not in common usage and how I construct complex sentences for no good reason. I have failed in writing for idiots in that respect. I disagree that people would be turned off by simple writing. What matters is a good story and it needn't be presented in an arcane manner.


Lists are great when you wanna get information across in a paper or presentation, but this is a story!


So what? What is the problem with that if the context of the story allows for it? This is a list of things James found online so it makes sense for them to be placed in a list.
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Wonder why. I don't find them boring, quite the opposite. I am learning more about a character that I hitherto don't know about. I am putting all of the things that he will be doing in some context. (Here, by establishing that our hero is dirt poor, it would make sense why he is so helpless in the event of a cold snap) Why is it boring for you?


Simply telling me info doesn't make me feel engaged with a story. It just feels like someone telling me stuff. This is especially true in the beginning when I don't even know why I should care about what you're telling me. I like learning about a character, but I like doing it through context as opposed to being told things that add context.

You might appreciate the story even better if you had some background knowledge of what I am satirising.


Maybe.

They complain about the words I use being not in common usage and how I construct complex sentences for no good reason.


Oh yeah, that.

What matters is a good story and it needn't be presented in an arcane manner.


I'm not trying to be arcane about. The style of writing that I'm going for is what a story needs to do to keep me engaged. You could have a good story but if it's told in a way that turns me off and doesn't keep me engaged, chances are I won't finish it.

So what? What is the problem with that if the context of the story allows for it? This is a list of things James found online so it makes sense for them to be placed in a list.


There's an exception to every rule. And of course, what I said isn't a rule so much as my opinion. I disagree however that just because you find something in a list means it needs to be presented as a list.
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leonard267 FAKKU Non-Writer
d(^_^)(^_^)d wrote...

Simply telling me info doesn't make me feel engaged with a story. It just feels like someone telling me stuff. This is especially true in the beginning when I don't even know why I should care about what you're telling me. I like learning about a character, but I like doing it through context as opposed to being told things that add context.


This is exactly the problem I have with what you write! Why should I care about what you're telling me that is.

What you prefer it seems to me is to start off right in the middle of the action with nothing explained and no context given. Of course you and other people who share your style would urge me to be patient and read on. This precisely what turns me off. Who is the character and what he is doing is not explained. Why should I care about him then?

When you read what I write however, you appear to dislike my style of not beginning the story in media res and introducing the characters and the world they are in. However, as a reader, if the author explains outright who our character is and what he does, I would say a context is provided and this would give the reader reason to care about the story. Yanker's entry I feel did that quite well by spelling out that he hunts demons.

If you were to write his story, I would imagine you describing in detail the crucifixes he has, the silver bullets in his revolver, the colour of whatever he is wearing and perhaps write out his demon warding incantations (which of course won't make sense). You would drop hints that I would find very hard to get about him being hired by someone to exorcise some demon in a house like a flashback of some named character who sorely needs an introduction coming out of nowhere pleading with him to slay some demon.

You might think it is very clear that he is an exorcist of sorts but I hate this kind of dot connecting especially when I find out I am wrong.



There's an exception to every rule. And of course, what I said isn't a rule so much as my opinion. I disagree however that just because you find something in a list means it needs to be presented as a list.


Of course. But this still begs the question, why didn't you like them presented as a list? They are very unconventional but succinct, brief and gets to the point which makes it funny in my opinion. Furthermore, I think it will be awkward if I said, James clicked on a website that says this, then proceeded to another website with very lousy web design that says that.
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If you were to write his story, I would imagine you describing in detail the crucifixes he has, the silver bullets in his revolver, the colour of whatever he is wearing and perhaps write out his demon warding incantations (which of course won't make sense). You would drop hints that I would find very hard to get about him being hired by someone to exorcise some demon in a house like a flashback of some named character who sorely needs an introduction coming out of nowhere pleading with him to slay some demon.


Pretty much. At the very least, I would give an excuse to tell the reader he hunts demons rather than just come out and say he's one, like what Yanker did. I would never come out and say: this is our character, he hunts demons.

You might think it is very clear that he is an exorcist of sorts but I hate this kind of dot connecting especially when I find out I am wrong.


I usually don't have a problem with finding out I'm wrong.

Of course. But this still begs the question, why didn't you like them presented as a list? They are very unconventional but succinct, brief and gets to the point which makes it funny in my opinion. Furthermore, I think it will be awkward if I said, James clicked on a website that says this, then proceeded to another website with very lousy web design that says that.


It does fit here the more I think about it, but I definitely avoid lists in my writing. When I write, my goal is to have my presence felt as little as possible. If I step in and present a list of info to the reader, that breaks that rule and announces my presence.
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leonard267 FAKKU Non-Writer
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Pretty much. At the very least, I would give an excuse to tell the reader he hunts demons rather than just come out and say he's one, like what Yanker did. I would never come out and say: this is our character, he hunts demons.


Sorry for the late reply. I was busy with work. I understand how it feels like to insist on writing in a certain way. I would make an effort to explain clearly who the characters in in any piece of writing unless I am trying to be funny. Speaking of which, when will you be posting something you wrote that I can complain about?


I usually don't have a problem with finding out I'm wrong.


I of course feel differently. I find reading words itself not to be entertainment but an act of gathering information. I am only entertained after the process of gathering information. Since I see reading as an act of gathering information and not guesswork or an act of artistic appreciation, I do mind if I can't understand what is being written.


It does fit here the more I think about it, but I definitely avoid lists in my writing. When I write, my goal is to have my presence felt as little as possible. If I step in and present a list of info to the reader, that breaks that rule and announces my presence.


That is not a taboo for me. Charles Dickens is very much of guilty of almost breaking the fourth wall and of course I enjoyed the tone of his work very much.
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Speaking of which, when will you be posting something you wrote that I can complain about?


Soon-ish maybe? If nothing else, there'll be the contest in December.

Since I see reading as an act of gathering information and not guesswork or an act of artistic appreciation, I do mind if I can't understand what is being written.


I read to immerse myself in a story. Well, lately when I read I've also started trying to analyze them to get better at writing.

That is not a taboo for me. Charles Dickens is very much of guilty of almost breaking the fourth wall and of course I enjoyed the tone of his work very much.


Fourth wall breaking can be amusing sometimes.
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leonard267 FAKKU Non-Writer
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Speaking of which, when will you be posting something you wrote that I can complain about?

Soon-ish maybe? If nothing else, there'll be the contest in December.


I will consider coming up with a writing event if there is nothing between now and December. As for the themes for that event, I can assure you that it will be silly even though as of now I don't know what it is yet!
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I will consider coming up with a writing event if there is nothing between now and December.


That's probably going to be the case.
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