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[Locked] Fakku isn't was it used to be
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I read manga in this page from 3 years ago or so. I remember when I enter in the first page and saw an incredible quantity of "doujinshi" and I could read them all free of charge. That was AMAZING!. But now I enter in the home age and I can't even read one of them. In all of the options you have to "buy it" or "subscribe it", and there very few free4read. I don't think that those options are bad at all, but clearly the free service offered is some time ago its disappearing and it seems that probrably FAKKU will be a "pay4read" site. I want to know what is your opinion about this.
PD: Sorry for bad english.
PD: Sorry for bad english.
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Just ask yourself two questions:
1. Where does the doujinshi come from?
2. If you were making doujinshi (and you were really good at it) would you want to be paid?
1. Where does the doujinshi come from?
2. If you were making doujinshi (and you were really good at it) would you want to be paid?
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I like that Fakku! is going legit. I like that we, as consumers of hentai, can buy and read hentai uncensored. It is why I will probably subscribe when I can finally afford it.
I am also one of those weird people who if I was a content creator I would be torn between two thoughts. If I made extremely well done doujin of course I would want to be paid. On the other hand I would also want as many people as possible to be able to enjoy it.
I know not everyone thinks that way though, which is why my only complaint about these changes is still just that I cannot comment on new releases.
ChrisBRosado123 wrote...
2. If you were making doujinshi (and you were really good at it) would you want to be paid?I am also one of those weird people who if I was a content creator I would be torn between two thoughts. If I made extremely well done doujin of course I would want to be paid. On the other hand I would also want as many people as possible to be able to enjoy it.
I know not everyone thinks that way though, which is why my only complaint about these changes is still just that I cannot comment on new releases.
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Bliixx wrote...
I am also one of those weird people who if I was a content creator I would be torn between two thoughts. If I made extremely well done doujin of course I would want to be paid. On the other hand I would also want as many people as possible to be able to enjoy it. I know not everyone thinks that way though, which is why my only complaint about these changes is still just that I cannot comment on new releases.
I know people feel this way but I think that part of being a member of society is doing your part. Monetary compensation is just a piece of the puzzle. If you're a part of the real world you don't wake up, say "I don't wanna," and then go back to sleep. You make sure you get your ass to work on time and you do your 9-5. You don't try to skip out on paying the train fare. You don't tell the power company to suck it. You don't walk out on your restaurant bill because the food didn't satisfy you. You do your part.
I think people come with all sorts of excuses to put FAKKU down because they'd rather not open their wallets. I'm not talking about people who can't afford it. Obviously in the digital age things don't work the same as they used to. But are things really that much different? It seems to me that people would rather argue and whine than to be an adult. FAKKU did their job, so I'll do mine and pay them. Bosshi did his job and it's up to FAKKU to see him compensated. It's that simple.
Again I get that people are cool with these things in some cases. But for an individual to decide against putting their money where it's due is skipping out on their duty. That's how I see it at least.
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I mean I would love to support the artists and all of that. But why get rid of most of the free content (if not all)? The site needs something to entice people to subscribe. In addition, in a world were hentai and porn in general is free on every godamn site in the internet its not hard to find the same things I find in FAKKU or even more, it seems rather pointless to try and make all of the content legit. At least crunchyroll had the perfect conditions (rising of anime culture and had already became a reference page), people are not going to bother, specially if it leaves traces. I don't know about you, but I don't want to marked as the guy who paid for porn. That's I'll have to say.
Edit: Also all of the lurkers of the site are going to move, you know that right? That is already a huge portion of the Fakku's visitors
To add as I receantly read this:
I know not everyone thinks that way though, which is why my only complaint about these changes is still just that I cannot comment on new releases.
I know people feel this way but I think that part of being a member of society is doing your part. Monetary compensation is just a piece of the puzzle. If you're a part of the real world you don't wake up, say "I don't wanna," and then go back to sleep. You make sure you get your ass to work on time and you do your 9-5. You don't try to skip out on paying the train fare. You don't tell the power company to suck it. You don't walk out on your restaurant bill because the food didn't satisfy you. You do your part.
I think people come with all sorts of excuses to put FAKKU down because they'd rather not open their wallets. I'm not talking about people who can't afford it. Obviously in the digital age things don't work the same as they used to. But are things really that much different? It seems to me that people would rather argue and whine than to be an adult. FAKKU did their job, so I'll do mine and pay them. Bosshi did his job and it's up to FAKKU to see him compensated. It's that simple.
Again I get that people are cool with these things in some cases. But for an individual to decide against putting their money where it's due is skipping out on their duty. That's how I see it at least.
The thing is, those examples you are putting are resources being spent and being consumed by the individual. You don't leave the restaurant without paying, because you already consumed the food. You don't lift the middle finger to the power company because you already consumed the electrecity. With virtual copies, I am in no way consuming resources or what the artist made. Now to deepen in the second point, there is a good analogy for this, its theft when you stole a car, but if you made an exact copy of the car, but cheaper is it theft. It doesn't even have the brand on it, so its not stealing the brand's name. In addition you can't exactly prove that I would have buy the product, so its not a loss for the company.There is an interestign experiment, its called the Kopymachin it produces 10k copies of a song each second. Thats a loss of 60 grand each second; following your logic
Edit: Also all of the lurkers of the site are going to move, you know that right? That is already a huge portion of the Fakku's visitors
To add as I receantly read this:
ChrisBRosado123 wrote...
Bliixx wrote...
I am also one of those weird people who if I was a content creator I would be torn between two thoughts. If I made extremely well done doujin of course I would want to be paid. On the other hand I would also want as many people as possible to be able to enjoy it. I know not everyone thinks that way though, which is why my only complaint about these changes is still just that I cannot comment on new releases.
I know people feel this way but I think that part of being a member of society is doing your part. Monetary compensation is just a piece of the puzzle. If you're a part of the real world you don't wake up, say "I don't wanna," and then go back to sleep. You make sure you get your ass to work on time and you do your 9-5. You don't try to skip out on paying the train fare. You don't tell the power company to suck it. You don't walk out on your restaurant bill because the food didn't satisfy you. You do your part.
I think people come with all sorts of excuses to put FAKKU down because they'd rather not open their wallets. I'm not talking about people who can't afford it. Obviously in the digital age things don't work the same as they used to. But are things really that much different? It seems to me that people would rather argue and whine than to be an adult. FAKKU did their job, so I'll do mine and pay them. Bosshi did his job and it's up to FAKKU to see him compensated. It's that simple.
Again I get that people are cool with these things in some cases. But for an individual to decide against putting their money where it's due is skipping out on their duty. That's how I see it at least.
The thing is, those examples you are putting are resources being spent and being consumed by the individual. You don't leave the restaurant without paying, because you already consumed the food. You don't lift the middle finger to the power company because you already consumed the electrecity. With virtual copies, I am in no way consuming resources or what the artist made. Now to deepen in the second point, there is a good analogy for this, its theft when you stole a car, but if you made an exact copy of the car, but cheaper is it theft. It doesn't even have the brand on it, so its not stealing the brand's name. In addition you can't exactly prove that I would have buy the product, so its not a loss for the company.There is an interestign experiment, its called the Kopymachin it produces 10k copies of a song each second. Thats a loss of 60 grand each second; following your logic
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luinthoron
High Priest of Loli
Themasterof42 wrote...
But why get rid of most of the free content (if not all)?Because you can't be a legitimate business and still offer illegal content.
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Themasterof42 wrote...
I mean I would love to support the artists and all of that. But why get rid of most of the free content (if not all)? The site needs something to entice people to subscribe. In addition, in a world were hentai and porn in general is free on every godamn site in the internet its not hard to find the same things I find in FAKKU or even more, it seems rather pointless to try and make all of the content legit. At least crunchyroll had the perfect conditions (rising of anime culture and had already became a reference page), people are not going to bother, specially if it leaves traces. I don't know about you, but I don't want to marked as the guy who paid for porn. That's I'll have to say.Edit: Also all of the lurkers of the site are going to move, you know that right? That is already a huge portion of the Fakku's visitors
To add as I receantly read this:
ChrisBRosado123 wrote...
Bliixx wrote...
I am also one of those weird people who if I was a content creator I would be torn between two thoughts. If I made extremely well done doujin of course I would want to be paid. On the other hand I would also want as many people as possible to be able to enjoy it. I know not everyone thinks that way though, which is why my only complaint about these changes is still just that I cannot comment on new releases.
I know people feel this way but I think that part of being a member of society is doing your part. Monetary compensation is just a piece of the puzzle. If you're a part of the real world you don't wake up, say "I don't wanna," and then go back to sleep. You make sure you get your ass to work on time and you do your 9-5. You don't try to skip out on paying the train fare. You don't tell the power company to suck it. You don't walk out on your restaurant bill because the food didn't satisfy you. You do your part.
I think people come with all sorts of excuses to put FAKKU down because they'd rather not open their wallets. I'm not talking about people who can't afford it. Obviously in the digital age things don't work the same as they used to. But are things really that much different? It seems to me that people would rather argue and whine than to be an adult. FAKKU did their job, so I'll do mine and pay them. Bosshi did his job and it's up to FAKKU to see him compensated. It's that simple.
Again I get that people are cool with these things in some cases. But for an individual to decide against putting their money where it's due is skipping out on their duty. That's how I see it at least.
The thing is, those examples you are putting are resources being spent and being consumed by the individual. You don't leave the restaurant without paying, because you already consumed the food. You don't lift the middle finger to the power company because you already consumed the electrecity. With virtual copies, I am in no way consuming resources or what the artist made. Now to deepen in the second point, there is a good analogy for this, its theft when you stole a car, but if you made an exact copy of the car, but cheaper is it theft. It doesn't even have the brand on it, so its not stealing the brand's name. In addition you can't exactly prove that I would have buy the product, so its not a loss for the company.There is an interestign experiment, its called the Kopymachin it produces 10k copies of a song each second. Thats a loss of 60 grand each second; following your logic
Did I say money is lost? No. I said it's doing your duty. How is it that just because copying something is trivial there is no value to the thing copied? Wouldn't that thing not exist at all if nobody spent hours working away to bring it into existence in the first place?
Why don't we look at the other extreme? Hentai publishers suddenly decide fuck this shit. We're not doing digital releases anymore. Do the manga and doujinshi suddenly become more valuable because they can't be copied trivially anymore? Are people going to suddenly start caring and opening up their wallets because there's demand for this thing that they can no longer obtain by mouse click? No. They'll just get pirated again. I'm going as far as saying that because there is a means of converting this physical media to digital, it is practically impossible for that media to not be pirated. But piracy can not take away the value of the artist's skills. Piracy cannot take away the value of development time. The only thing piracy trivializes is the process required to produce a copy. Again I'm not saying anything was lost. I'm saying that we consumers are taking these things for granted. It's irresponsible. If you didn't have the internet, if you didn't have computers, you'd just have to stand in line like everyone else. But just because you have these tools at your disposal, your argument suggests that the right to freely consume whatever content you want is bestowed upon you. What is the problem here? It's that in this makebelieveworld where there are no official digital versions available, someone broke the law in order to make pirated content available to you.
This just goes back to my previous post. It's all about your decisions as an individual. If you have all the information you can either be considerate or selfish about this. I'm not going to claim that there's a right or wrong here. It's up to everyone to show their true colors.
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Themasterof42 wrote...
Edit: Also all of the lurkers of the site are going to move, you know that right? That is already a huge portion of the Fakku's visitorsWe know o.O people keep saying this as if we had no idea that would happen.
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Did I say money is lost? No. I said it's doing your duty. How is it that just because copying something is trivial there is no value to the thing copied? Wouldn't that thing not exist at all if nobody spent hours working away to bring it into existence in the first place?
Why don't we look at the other extreme? Hentai publishers suddenly decide fuck this shit. We're not doing digital releases anymore. Do the manga and doujinshi suddenly become more valuable because they can't be copied trivially anymore? Are people going to suddenly start caring and opening up their wallets because there's demand for this thing that they can no longer obtain by mouse click? No. They'll just get pirated again. I'm going as far as saying that because there is a means of converting this physical media to digital, it is practically impossible for that media to not be pirated. But piracy can not take away the value of the artist's skills. Piracy cannot take away the value of development time. The only thing piracy trivializes is the process required to produce a copy. Again I'm not saying anything was lost. I'm saying that we consumers are taking these things for granted. It's irresponsible. If you didn't have the internet, if you didn't have computers, you'd just have to stand in line like everyone else. But just because you have these tools at your disposal, your argument suggests that the right to freely consume whatever content you want is bestowed upon you. What is the problem here? It's that in this makebelieveworld where there are no official digital versions available, someone broke the law in order to make pirated content available to you.
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Hentai authors and publishers, don't (or at least to my knowledge) do digital releases. The process of piracy goes like this: Buy physical copy (artist recieves its compensation), scan it, cleanse, translation and release to a free website. So all of the steps above are legal, as the scanlation already paid for the product; hence its already theirs. And all laws specifically state that is illegal to profit from other's work. Most websites offer their content for FREE, therefore direct profit from the product its not made, therefore its legal or at least in a grey area; just to inform you about the topic.
Now to the point.I'm not saying we are entitled to have EVERYTHING for free. But that if there is a method to have free stuff, in which no one gets harmed or benefits. Then ¿why not embrace it?
We know o.O people keep saying this as if we had no idea that would happen.
Lurkers make the majority of this website's traffic. Those lurkers are potential customers, that Fakku could comercialize if they kept working with scanlations or at least have free content (a la spotify)
Did I say money is lost? No. I said it's doing your duty. How is it that just because copying something is trivial there is no value to the thing copied? Wouldn't that thing not exist at all if nobody spent hours working away to bring it into existence in the first place?
Why don't we look at the other extreme? Hentai publishers suddenly decide fuck this shit. We're not doing digital releases anymore. Do the manga and doujinshi suddenly become more valuable because they can't be copied trivially anymore? Are people going to suddenly start caring and opening up their wallets because there's demand for this thing that they can no longer obtain by mouse click? No. They'll just get pirated again. I'm going as far as saying that because there is a means of converting this physical media to digital, it is practically impossible for that media to not be pirated. But piracy can not take away the value of the artist's skills. Piracy cannot take away the value of development time. The only thing piracy trivializes is the process required to produce a copy. Again I'm not saying anything was lost. I'm saying that we consumers are taking these things for granted. It's irresponsible. If you didn't have the internet, if you didn't have computers, you'd just have to stand in line like everyone else. But just because you have these tools at your disposal, your argument suggests that the right to freely consume whatever content you want is bestowed upon you. What is the problem here? It's that in this makebelieveworld where there are no official digital versions available, someone broke the law in order to make pirated content available to you.
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Hentai authors and publishers, don't (or at least to my knowledge) do digital releases. The process of piracy goes like this: Buy physical copy (artist recieves its compensation), scan it, cleanse, translation and release to a free website. So all of the steps above are legal, as the scanlation already paid for the product; hence its already theirs. And all laws specifically state that is illegal to profit from other's work. Most websites offer their content for FREE, therefore direct profit from the product its not made, therefore its legal or at least in a grey area; just to inform you about the topic.
Now to the point.I'm not saying we are entitled to have EVERYTHING for free. But that if there is a method to have free stuff, in which no one gets harmed or benefits. Then ¿why not embrace it?
Kisuka wrote...
Themasterof42 wrote...
Edit: Also all of the lurkers of the site are going to move, you know that right? That is already a huge portion of the Fakku's visitorsWe know o.O people keep saying this as if we had no idea that would happen.
Lurkers make the majority of this website's traffic. Those lurkers are potential customers, that Fakku could comercialize if they kept working with scanlations or at least have free content (a la spotify)
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Kaimax
Best Master-San
Themasterof42 wrote...
Kisuka wrote...
Themasterof42 wrote...
Edit: Also all of the lurkers of the site are going to move, you know that right? That is already a huge portion of the Fakku's visitorsWe know o.O people keep saying this as if we had no idea that would happen.
Lurkers make the majority of this website's traffic. Those lurkers are potential customers, that Fakku could comercialize if they kept working with scanlations or at least have free content (a la spotify)
and according to my Marketing team as I work in e-commerce.
Only 10% will pay, while 1% will become Loyal customers.
NO, FAKKU cannot work anymore with Scanlations as those are illegal. That's like Steam having a torrent section in their store.
Free content will come, but it's still in talks as Fakku is still New in this and probably needs to negotiate back and forth with the License Holders.
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Themasterof42 wrote...
Most websites offer their content for FREE, therefore direct profit from the product its not made, therefore its legal or at least in a grey area; just to inform you about the topic.You are very mistaken. Scanlators operate on commission all the time. Not all of them are greedy but some simply wish to get something back for their efforts. But do you think a site like nHentai only makes enough advertising money to recoup operating expenses? FAKKU itself had special advertising deals. This is a pretty old post but the point of it is still very much true. Millions of hits every day, with aggressive advertising strategies. You better bet people are profiting. What do you think mangafox is worth? FAKKU is the very first aggregator (afaik) to say enough. It's a dangerous move of course. But it's ethical business.
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ChrisBRosado123 wrote...
Themasterof42 wrote...
Most websites offer their content for FREE, therefore direct profit from the product its not made, therefore its legal or at least in a grey area; just to inform you about the topic.You are very mistaken. Scanlators operate on commission all the time. Not all of them are greedy but some simply wish to get something back for their efforts. But do you think a site like nHentai only makes enough advertising money to recoup operating expenses? FAKKU itself had special advertising deals. This is a pretty old post but the point of it is still very much true. Millions of hits every day, with aggressive advertising strategies. You better bet people are profiting. What do you think mangafox is worth? FAKKU is the very first aggregator (afaik) to say enough. It's a dangerous move of course. But it's ethical business.
Keyword: DIRECT PROFIT. The product on itself does not make any money
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Themasterof42 wrote...
Keyword: DIRECT PROFIT. The product on itself does not make any moneyThe site without the product will get 0 hits and 0 advertising revenue. These sites use other people's work as bait for content consumers. In some cases they even upload scans without permission of the scanlators. I don't understand how you can't see that these guys are in it for the money. Do you know why their sites are free to access? Because that's what you and 90% of users want. Because it works, and they know that's what drives the most traffic. Not because it keeps their site in the legal gray area (it doesn't). What difference does it make if you have to buy it vs you are subjected to advertising? Both generate revenue. Where's the money going? Into pockets of people who don't own the IP.
Why don't we look at it like this? Let's say you make videos on YouTube. They're educational videos, so it's a pretty good thing you're doing. You make a pretty fair amount of money through YouTube ads. It's not enough to quit your day job but it fully justifies the time you commit to making videos. Now all of a sudden some new site called BlueTube pops up and it's just the biggest new thing. Millions of users flock to BlueTube. BlueTube now starts ripping content from your YouTube channel and hosts it on their site. They didn't steal anything. They didn't ask you either. They just copied it to their own site. They proceed to generate $10,000 off of your efforts. Are you telling me it's okay that they're generating revenue off of something you did just because they don't have an asking price? Really? And by the way, this is a real thing.
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artcellrox
The Grey Knight :y
Bliixx wrote...
ChrisBRosado123 wrote...
2. If you were making doujinshi (and you were really good at it) would you want to be paid?I am also one of those weird people who if I was a content creator I would be torn between two thoughts. If I made extremely well done doujin of course I would want to be paid. On the other hand I would also want as many people as possible to be able to enjoy it.
Simple solution: adopt the "pay what you want" policy that so many artists on Bandcamp use. It's actually a pretty efficient way to not only make sure most everyone can have access to your music, but also to ensure that those who believe you deserve to be paid for such quality will pay for it.
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ChrisBRosado123 wrote...
Themasterof42 wrote...
Keyword: DIRECT PROFIT. The product on itself does not make any moneyThe site without the product will get 0 hits and 0 advertising revenue. These sites use other people's work as bait for content consumers. In some cases they even upload scans without permission of the scanlators. I don't understand how you can't see that these guys are in it for the money. Do you know why their sites are free to access? Because that's what you and 90% of users want. Because it works, and they know that's what drives the most traffic. Not because it keeps their site in the legal gray area (it doesn't). What difference does it make if you have to buy it vs you are subjected to advertising? Both generate revenue. Where's the money going? Into pockets of people who don't own the IP.
Why don't we look at it like this? Let's say you make videos on YouTube. They're educational videos, so it's a pretty good thing you're doing. You make a pretty fair amount of money through YouTube ads. It's not enough to quit your day job but it fully justifies the time you commit to making videos. Now all of a sudden some new site called BlueTube pops up and it's just the biggest new thing. Millions of users flock to BlueTube. BlueTube now starts ripping content from your YouTube channel and hosts it on their site. They didn't steal anything. They didn't ask you either. They just copied it to their own site. They proceed to generate $10,000 off of your efforts. Are you telling me it's okay that they're generating revenue off of something you did just because they don't have an asking price? Really? And by the way, this is a real thing.
OK I watched all of the video. And to start. We already discussed the analogy. Its a virtual object, no resources are being consumed; hence the analogy to the sheep is incorrect. The father (youtoube content creator) did not lost his sheep. It was not stolen either, rather blatantly copied and updated into another channel. In addition the main complaint he made, I fully agree. Its unethical to not give credit to the artist for their creation. However sites like fakku (used to be), luscious and others do put the artist's name and in some cases even the publisher. So that problem is not inherent to internet piracy. The second point the guy made, well, what can I say? Do we go to a previous point I made, those "potential viewers", the "money lost". Well, you can't guarantee that those 7 million views in facebook would have seen you 600 thousand view count video.
To answer your question, no I would not be bothered if facebook stole my video and post it, given that I am recognized as the creator of that piece of content. Hell I would be glad, and consider it as free advertisement. Those interested in the content may visit my youtoube channel. (That is the same argument for lets players and we have accepted them; so...) In addition, yes I would like to make more money for making videos, but I chose to make those videos and do them because I like it. Not because I expect money to rain. Every single moment working on the video would be worth it, even if I don't receive any sort of monetary compensation or recieve a single view
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Themasterof42 wrote...
ChrisBRosado123 wrote...
Themasterof42 wrote...
Keyword: DIRECT PROFIT. The product on itself does not make any moneyThe site without the product will get 0 hits and 0 advertising revenue. These sites use other people's work as bait for content consumers. In some cases they even upload scans without permission of the scanlators. I don't understand how you can't see that these guys are in it for the money. Do you know why their sites are free to access? Because that's what you and 90% of users want. Because it works, and they know that's what drives the most traffic. Not because it keeps their site in the legal gray area (it doesn't). What difference does it make if you have to buy it vs you are subjected to advertising? Both generate revenue. Where's the money going? Into pockets of people who don't own the IP.
Why don't we look at it like this? Let's say you make videos on YouTube. They're educational videos, so it's a pretty good thing you're doing. You make a pretty fair amount of money through YouTube ads. It's not enough to quit your day job but it fully justifies the time you commit to making videos. Now all of a sudden some new site called BlueTube pops up and it's just the biggest new thing. Millions of users flock to BlueTube. BlueTube now starts ripping content from your YouTube channel and hosts it on their site. They didn't steal anything. They didn't ask you either. They just copied it to their own site. They proceed to generate $10,000 off of your efforts. Are you telling me it's okay that they're generating revenue off of something you did just because they don't have an asking price? Really? And by the way, this is a real thing.
OK I watched all of the video. And to start. We already discussed the analogy. Its a virtual object, no resources are being consumed; hence the analogy to the sheep is incorrect. The father (youtoube content creator) did not lost his sheep. It was not stolen either, rather blatantly copied and updated into another channel. In addition the main complaint he made, I fully agree. Its unethical to not give credit to the artist for their creation. However sites like fakku (used to be), luscious and others do put the artist's name and in some cases even the publisher. So that problem is not inherent to internet piracy. The second point the guy made, well, what can I say? Do we go to a previous point I made, those "potential viewers", the "money lost". Well, you can't guarantee that those 7 million views in facebook would have seen you 600 thousand view count video.
To answer your question, no I would not be bothered if facebook stole my video and post it, given that I am recognized as the creator of that piece of content. Hell I would be glad, and consider it as free advertisement. Those interested in the content may visit my youtoube channel. (That is the same argument for lets players and we have accepted them; so...) In addition, yes I would like to make more money for making videos, but I chose to make those videos and do them because I like it. Not because I expect money to rain. Every single moment working on the video would be worth it, even if I don't receive any sort of monetary compensation or recieve a single view
You're still ignoring my original point. The decreased cost of copying does not reduce the value of a creator's ability or the cost of development time. By your logic piracy can expand as much as it wants (piracy has expanded hugely already) and content creators don't suffer anything at all.
> Well, you can't guarantee that those 7 million views in facebook would have seen you 600 thousand view count video.
This is bullshit. Facebook can very easily establish a program to properly compensate creators. Facebook is choosing to ignore that and take all the profits for themselves. It's scummy as fuck and you know it.
>Those interested in the content may visit my youtoube channel.
Why bother? Everything you upload from now on will be ripped. Everything will be available on Facebook. There's no incentive to even go on the YouTube domain because nobody has to. And the whole point of that Freebooting argument is NOT that something was stolen. It's that someone else is profiting off of something they didn't do. It's that they are making money off virtually no effort and nobody gives a shit.
Look I can do this all day but it's a waste of breath at this point. Either you give a shit or you don't. This isn't even about buying anything. This is about recognizing that someone created something of value to you and choosing whether or not that person deserves compensation. Make your choice. But I think it's pretty obvious that you already have.
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xihiroix
Sun Worshipper
Themasterof42 wrote...
Its a virtual object, no resources are being consumed;Please go research how websites, servers, and file hosting services are run. You apparently think this is all magic.
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ChrisBRosado123 wrote...
Just ask yourself two questions:1. Where does the doujinshi come from?
2. If you were making doujinshi (and you were really good at it) would you want to be paid?
You see, when a mommy mangaka and a daddy source material love each other very much, they make a baby doujinshi.
That's what we got surrogates for, silly.
