Female Entitlement in Social Interactions

Gizgal has a good point. When we have no knowledge about such a situation, mathematics is all we can follow. So, if ten people act the exact same way towards an individual, it is likely that the problem is the individual. If ten people don't trust poor old Joe, then it is likely that Joe is untrustworthy. Granted, not a certain statement but then again, almost nothing is.

This.

Most of the time this situation happens because we are exhausted. Having fun with your girls and having a guy bother you is tiresome, and when guys consistently do it during the night you will get more annoyed as time goes on. A lot of factors go into why a girl may act that way. I know in my case when I guy asks/offers me something I get annoyed because I don't like the attention so I brush him off, granted I am not brutal about it I just don't want it to happen.

In the end it all comes down to

Of course it is reasonable to get annoyed and maybe even ignoring the guy, but good manners never hurt anybody. If a girl ever told me to 'fuck off' (granted that hasn't happened yet) for just approaching her, then I'd be more than happy to reciprocate her attitude back at them.

All I have to say

Pig headed pervs are the honest cause of this. Girls get so sick and tired of guys acting like they can just walk up to them and BAM GET WITH THEM, that even when a not so pig headed male approaches them, they just don't even want to bother.

It's sad.

Getting the middle finger without a word from her? Haven't experienced it that though I've been ignored numerous times. Guess the girls there don't wanna hook-up. To me, meeting people in bars is for hook-ups. You want to meet someone to fall in love with? go out in the rest of the world.

So yeah I feel kinda bad

Most women probably get sexually harassed and don't want to be approached. It can get frustrating if all you want to do is have fun but they constantly get unwanted attention.

It depends on the area you guys were hanging out.

Before people call them out as bitches, you should first rationalize how frustrating it is for those to get approached. For many, things just start out as a few friendly words and when they try to turn them down--men backlash into inappropriate touches or slurs.

If someone came up to me saying someone was interested in me, I would think they were making fun of me. But that's me personally.

The women you've approached probably weren't into casual dates with strangers.

it kinda depends on what you want and where you are for example I have had zero luck picking girls at a bar but when im at rave it is alot easier to meet girls in the short term kinda deal also it can depend on the girl. if there is one thing that I have learned take things as they come a guy can sense oppurtunity it's up to him to act on it.

Options Menu:

Quit?

Try Again?

Bitch and Moan?

Bars are not a decent place to find relationships with.

The vast majority of the people that hook up in bars are hooking up with sexy time goal in mind.

Given that mindset, most of the guys that are hitting on women in bars are hitting in a sleazy manner.

I don't know why your guy friend would not expect to be given a fuck off from a woman that is not interested in sexy time.

If he wants a relationship he should seek other areas.

If he wants just some sexy time, then he shouldn't take a fuck off personally.

I wouldn't call this "entitlement" to be honest.

I am going to put in my say into this, being a girl myself.

First of all, with me, I do not go to the bar to meet new people, and I never go to the bar by my self it just a pain in the ass. Only time I go to to a bar/club/or hanging out, is with I am with one or more friends, and to enjoy my friends company, and have fun with them. And I am there simply for that one reason, I want to go laugh, maybe dance some, talk, relax with my friends, and a good amount of the time there number of men greatly out number women. So how annoying do you think it is, when you just trying to goof off and relax with your friends, when you got guys coming up to you ever 10 minutes offering you a drink, or trying to chat you up, get your attention. Second. about drinks. I don't accept any drinks from anyone for a few reason, One I mostly don't know you, and don't know if it tampered with, or give you the wrong sign accidentally, two I don't want to feel like I owe anyone a drink, or go to the bar and have some one come up to me asking me to buy one for them because they got me one so on and so on ago. and finally, I don't accept because I know my limit and I brought just enough to get myself to where I can enjoy myself, and do not need more, plus if I don't know you, and I did accept it only give you the ideal I do want to talk when I don't. all you trying to do in the end is waist my time, and I rather spend that with people who I give a shit about.



So Yes we women may at times be a bitch, but that just because the same old shit over and over and over and over again get fucking annoying. Seriously. Stop. lol

Dont know, as i am usually the one telling girls to fuck off. For some reason the less you are interested in women, the more interest they find in you.

I do however have plenty of experience of having men telling me they dont swing that way


p.s: i dont go picking up either girls OR guys in bars, and those who do should be prepared for rejections (women less so then men, because most guys will jump at a chance to get laid)

Bah, I can't even.

So guys are expected to be the ones taking initiative, but if a girl's not interested, it's the guy's fault for bugging her? How is it reasonable to expect men to be confident and forward yet demonize them for it simultaneously? Someone has to take the risk; it's not like girls will do it. Ugh... I wish I were gay. Since gay men are of the same gender, they usually have a mutual understanding and goal.

Is it be man and take initiative, or leave us alone because we're tired of being hit on?

It's been a while since I've come back to this old thread and I've already come to solid realizations (my boyfriends friend has as well and is doing just fine as of now; still single, but much better place).

Anyways, basically I look at it like this. If a girl tells you to fuck off then she probably isn't really all that great of a person or she just want's to have a good night out without any interruptions. I realized after thinking about this that I have done the same to people before. Not because I was trying to be mean, but I wanted to get the message across clearly that I was not interested and you get nervous that a guy won't understand otherwise. Also, drinks can make your mouth a lot looser then under normal circumstances.

Anyways I just tell guys to give it a shot when they can to talk to a girl rather then to just hit on her hard core and if it doesn't work out then there's always next time. If you don't try then you won't get anywhere with people. I've been told to fuck off (as stated a while back in my OP), but I get over it.... was a little drunk when I made this so I was still pissed lol.

Also, regardless of gender preference, even if you were gay it wouldn't be as easy as you think to land a partner. Everyone has a tough time with dating and such so you'll just have to find your own way. When you give up is when you won't find what you want and really no use bitching about how the societal norms for dating are. I know guys bitch about how it's stupid that the guy has to have balls and ask a girl out, but honestly bitching doesn't do you any good and you wasted energy when you could be working on gaining some confidence to talk with people and hopefully become friends with a nice woman (or just people in general).

Well usually a lot of girls that go out especially with friends it is making a "girls" night. I been with a few and usually you are just trying to go out as a group of friends have fun and then go home. Most girls don't want a girl to leave the group cause 1. they don't want to feel like they were left out and 2. they just feel a sense of safety with staying together (you hear a lot of weird things happening to some females so better safe than sorry.) That is my only observation to why they say f off while with a group of friends.