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Is Female & Male Friendships Possible?
Is female/male relationships possible?
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I know I know, you might think: WTF OF COURSE IT IS POSSIBLE ARE YOU STUPID?
but I have been going around with this question for years because every time I believe I have found the answer someone proves me wrong.
Usually I would believe it depends on the circumstances but then can girls and guys only be friends if they both or one party is in a relationship with someone else?
I have experienced myself and heard from friends that if you become really good friends with a person of opposite gender that person or yourself will start developing feelings toward the other person (usually) if the person is single.
I rarely hear about people falling for people who are already in a relationship of course it happens it is just not as common.
so opinions, thoughts and RL experiences are very appreciated.
but I have been going around with this question for years because every time I believe I have found the answer someone proves me wrong.
Usually I would believe it depends on the circumstances but then can girls and guys only be friends if they both or one party is in a relationship with someone else?
I have experienced myself and heard from friends that if you become really good friends with a person of opposite gender that person or yourself will start developing feelings toward the other person (usually) if the person is single.
I rarely hear about people falling for people who are already in a relationship of course it happens it is just not as common.
so opinions, thoughts and RL experiences are very appreciated.
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Misaki_Chi
Fakku Nurse
Kinda long winded, but this is what I've come up with at this point in life, hope this helps you and others some.
At this point in life I would say that it depends.
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623
FAKKU QA
Sure. I have some girl friends, but I'm not attracted to them at all, so it's pretty easy for me not to want anything more.
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artcellrox
The Grey Knight :y
Yeah, I have some female friends without any feelings of infatuation or attraction getting in the way. I do agree with Misaki to an extent though, it can be a little tricky and really depends on the people and circumstances.
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One of my best friends is a girl, and there's no chance of it going beyond friendship.
We've known each other since high school (we just finished college) and when I first met her she was dating someone. They dated for a long time and broke up last year, but to be completely honest I was never really attracted to her. That's not to say I haven't had thoughts about doing stuff with her, but I would say that comes more from me just wanting some action as opposed to attraction.
Its never gone beyond that though. We've been friends for so long, it would be too embarrassing (awkward? not sure which word fits better) to actually act on those thoughts.
We've known each other since high school (we just finished college) and when I first met her she was dating someone. They dated for a long time and broke up last year, but to be completely honest I was never really attracted to her. That's not to say I haven't had thoughts about doing stuff with her, but I would say that comes more from me just wanting some action as opposed to attraction.
Its never gone beyond that though. We've been friends for so long, it would be too embarrassing (awkward? not sure which word fits better) to actually act on those thoughts.
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DatYuriThough
Goddess of Nature
I've hung around guys my entire life, I've always been closer friends with guys than girls even though I'm a girl (pretty feminine at that lol). I'd say the only two girls who I talked regularly with before when I turned 13 were my two sisters. So yeah I'd think it's pretty easy to make friends with the opposite gender but I guess it depends on the individuals you're trying to be friends with rather than just the difference in gender in general. I've met some pretty cool guys who have never (seriously) hit on me and I've met the opposite. You just have to be careful with who it is you become friends with.
As for getting attracted towards them, that just seems like bad luck if anything. Not that I want to chalk it down the someone's inability to make friends with the opposite gender based on luck but that's what it seems like. Falling for a friend can suck since it can completely unbalance the group you're in (I would know, fell for a girl I was friends with once) but it shouldn't be like that with every guy you ever meet. If someone were to find it happening a lot then I would assume (I understand this might not be the case) that they haven't found the person that has made them happy and they're just trying to find someone to settle down with and go steady. So rather than it being impossible for them to make friends with a guy, first and foremost is that they would want to find a guy to fall in love with (subconsciously of course). But as I said, that's not always the case and would be kind of naive to assume it about everyone in that situation. I generally think if two people are the opposite gender they won't just fall for each-other but it's entirely likely, I mean, you would be close friends, know a lot about each-other (likes and dislikes) and would be able to trust each-other. Doesn't take much more to be in a relationship than that really.
I've also watched a bunch of friends end up together because of how close they get, but it depends on the individuals. Some people are attracted to others (based on looks, personality, gender) and some aren't. All comes down to the people you chose to be friends with and if you're lucky enough to find some awesome people who you aren't attracted to (though it's not a bad thing if it works out).
As for getting attracted towards them, that just seems like bad luck if anything. Not that I want to chalk it down the someone's inability to make friends with the opposite gender based on luck but that's what it seems like. Falling for a friend can suck since it can completely unbalance the group you're in (I would know, fell for a girl I was friends with once) but it shouldn't be like that with every guy you ever meet. If someone were to find it happening a lot then I would assume (I understand this might not be the case) that they haven't found the person that has made them happy and they're just trying to find someone to settle down with and go steady. So rather than it being impossible for them to make friends with a guy, first and foremost is that they would want to find a guy to fall in love with (subconsciously of course). But as I said, that's not always the case and would be kind of naive to assume it about everyone in that situation. I generally think if two people are the opposite gender they won't just fall for each-other but it's entirely likely, I mean, you would be close friends, know a lot about each-other (likes and dislikes) and would be able to trust each-other. Doesn't take much more to be in a relationship than that really.
I've also watched a bunch of friends end up together because of how close they get, but it depends on the individuals. Some people are attracted to others (based on looks, personality, gender) and some aren't. All comes down to the people you chose to be friends with and if you're lucky enough to find some awesome people who you aren't attracted to (though it's not a bad thing if it works out).
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Misaki_Chi wrote...
Thank you for your input It made me think about a lot of things and made me consider a lot of scenarios for future use and recalling some past events. People say love is mental other say it is chemical and third parties call it magic. I believe it is a mix of all three. I just think it can be hard to have a friendship if both involved don't have the same view on how friendships should be. Maybe it is me who are in the wrong or maybe I just haven't been considerate enough to think about my friends' feelings but I will from now on! Thank you.
623 wrote...
Sure. I have some girl friends, but I'm not attracted to them at all, so it's pretty easy for me not to want anything more.But do you know how your friends' think and do they feel the same way? Can you be sure they aren't crushing on you behind your back?
artcellrox wrote...
Yeah, I have some female friends without any feelings of infatuation or attraction getting in the way. I do agree with Misaki to an extent though, it can be a little tricky and really depends on the people and circumstances.Same as to 623 and that is thoughts and feeling from both partners that you don't want affection involved? Is it something you talked about or came to an agreement on or is it gut feeling from your side only? Of course it depends on a lot of things how friendships work out. Though I believe it shouldn't be so tricky and should be something natural.
Even though "natual" would be the fact that the "main reason" male and female interact is for genes to survive.
shadowhawk69 wrote...
One of my best friends is a girl, and there's no chance of it going beyond friendship.We've known each other since high school (we just finished college) and when I first met her she was dating someone. They dated for a long time and broke up last year, but to be completely honest I was never really attracted to her. That's not to say I haven't had thoughts about doing stuff with her, but I would say that comes more from me just wanting some action as opposed to attraction.
Its never gone beyond that though. We've been friends for so long, it would be too embarrassing (awkward? not sure which word fits better) to actually act on those thoughts.
How can you be so sure there is no chance of it going beyond friendship? Sry if this question is too personal. I just never heard of something being 100% certain so what makes you so sure? If she broke up with her boyfriend now who knows she might develop feelings toward you, even if you think it might be awkward and embarrassing since you have known each other so long, she might feel that you are the best choice since you know her and wouldn't be surprised by her flaws ish..
I don't ask this to question your friendship it just makes me wonder.
DatYuriThough wrote...
Well in my opinion I would agree with the fact that it doesn't take much more to have a relationship then being close, liking and trusting each other (of course it is very superficial, relationship can be more than just that) but doesn't that mean if you have known someone long enough the higher is the possibility for the two of them to start liking each other? Of course there is cases where friends stay friends forever and nothing else develop but isn't it way more often that the opposite case happens? When people search for partners they usually end up choosing someone they are comfortable with usually a friend.
Of course it isn't just the opposite gender, if your sexuality is homosexual or bi it might be the same with the opposite or everyone though I find it to occur more between straight couples (usually, there will always be exceptions).
it makes me wonder if instead of friendships with the opposite gender it is just all about people usually choosing to date or end up falling for someone they are familiar with?
Sorry long post and a lot of stupid questions, it just keeps me awake countless of nights.
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DatYuriThough
Goddess of Nature
xhimitsu wrote...
DatYuriThough wrote...
Well in my opinion I would agree with the fact that it doesn't take much more to have a relationship then being close, liking and trusting each other (of course it is very superficial, relationship can be more than just that) but doesn't that mean if you have known someone long enough the higher is the possibility for the two of them to start liking each other? Of course there is cases where friends stay friends forever and nothing else develop but isn't it way more often that the opposite case happens? When people search for partners they usually end up choosing someone they are comfortable with usually a friend.
Of course it isn't just the opposite gender, if your sexuality is homosexual or bi it might be the same with the opposite or everyone though I find it to occur more between straight couples (usually, there will always be exceptions).
it makes me wonder if instead of friendships with the opposite gender it is just all about people usually choosing to date or end up falling for someone they are familiar with?
Sorry long post and a lot of stupid questions, it just keeps me awake countless of nights.
Yeah I'd generally agree that if you've known each-other for longer you'd have a good chance of at least one of you developing feelings for the other, since obviously you have some similar interest/personalities since you've been friends for so long, but as I've said: The individuals involved are more important than the generalisations you can make about the relationship between the two people itself.
Trust me, it's exactly the same if you're Bi/Homosexual (I'm gay), so long as it is concerning someone you can be physically and emotionally attracted to, I've felt the same way to a few of my friends who happen to be girls, usually it's just a crush or something, just need to wait for it to pass although it can be more than just that on occasion.
I think you hit the nail on the head people falling for those they're familiar with, since you can trust them and already now you like spending time with them.
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Misaki_Chi
Fakku Nurse
xhimitsu wrote...
Thank you for your input It made me think about a lot of things and made me consider a lot of scenarios for future use and recalling some past events. People say love is mental other say it is chemical and third parties call it magic. I believe it is a mix of all three. I just think it can be hard to have a friendship if both involved don't have the same view on how friendships should be. Maybe it is me who are in the wrong or maybe I just haven't been considerate enough to think about my friends' feelings but I will from now on! Thank you.I don't think it's wrong to feel something for someone since it can be hard and an emotional roller coaster to deal with feelings, especially when the other person can't return those feelings for whatever reason. Sometimes you can't control how you feel over someone and to me it's not fair to try and play the friend game when both can't commit to it. Sometimes it's just better to let the relationship fall apart naturally and move onto other people. Not to say that it isn't shitty or sad, but you would rather your friend be happy then unhappy.
To me, if I can be myself with my friends and not feel nervous or worried around them, then they are awesome friends. If my friends make mistakes, then its cool with me because I am not perfect in any sense of the word lol. Again, if it is meant to last then it will last, if it doesn't then you take life a day at a time and hope that you'll meet even more people to experience life with.
The big difference between a significant other and a friend is the personal connection and intimacy you have with your partner. I say that my boyfriend is my best friend because he is someone who I can trust as much as I possibly can and I can be my absolute self with and not feel discriminated against. He is the one that can make me the happiest and the person I want to be around a little less then 24/7. He also turns me on physically and gave me the fireworks/bells and whistles/whatever those sappy movies come up with lol. This is really hard to find, but I honestly believe that it's out there and that if you work on yourself and keep trekking through life that anyone can find such people for themselves. I know I never gave up hope for it.
You'll figure it out as you go Himi-chan, this isn't something that is learned overnight. I don't think any relationship is easy, but you'll eventually find a few that work for you. Just don't be afraid to be alone at the end of the day, because no one is ever truly alone in this world (just feels that way sometimes).
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DatYuriThough wrote...
xhimitsu wrote...
DatYuriThough wrote...
Well in my opinion I would agree with the fact that it doesn't take much more to have a relationship then being close, liking and trusting each other (of course it is very superficial, relationship can be more than just that) but doesn't that mean if you have known someone long enough the higher is the possibility for the two of them to start liking each other? Of course there is cases where friends stay friends forever and nothing else develop but isn't it way more often that the opposite case happens? When people search for partners they usually end up choosing someone they are comfortable with usually a friend.
Of course it isn't just the opposite gender, if your sexuality is homosexual or bi it might be the same with the opposite or everyone though I find it to occur more between straight couples (usually, there will always be exceptions).
it makes me wonder if instead of friendships with the opposite gender it is just all about people usually choosing to date or end up falling for someone they are familiar with?
Sorry long post and a lot of stupid questions, it just keeps me awake countless of nights.
Yeah I'd generally agree that if you've known each-other for longer you'd have a good chance of at least one of you developing feelings for the other, since obviously you have some similar interest/personalities since you've been friends for so long, but as I've said: The individuals involved are more important than the generalisations you can make about the relationship between the two people itself.
Trust me, it's exactly the same if you're Bi/Homosexual (I'm gay), so long as it is concerning someone you can be physically and emotionally attracted to, I've felt the same way to a few of my friends who happen to be girls, usually it's just a crush or something, just need to wait for it to pass although it can be more than just that on occasion.
I think you hit the nail on the head people falling for those they're familiar with, since you can trust them and already now you like spending time with them.
Haha funny you say that. I heard the phrase: opposites meet, and actually those I have befriended for the longest time are those who are the most different from me. I guess it is because we accept each others differences. but true! I think you are right when saying it is about the individuals and not just about the generalisatons.
Misaki_Chi wrote...
xhimitsu wrote...
Thank you for your input It made me think about a lot of things and made me consider a lot of scenarios for future use and recalling some past events. People say love is mental other say it is chemical and third parties call it magic. I believe it is a mix of all three. I just think it can be hard to have a friendship if both involved don't have the same view on how friendships should be. Maybe it is me who are in the wrong or maybe I just haven't been considerate enough to think about my friends' feelings but I will from now on! Thank you.I don't think it's wrong to feel something for someone since it can be hard and an emotional roller coaster to deal with feelings, especially when the other person can't return those feelings for whatever reason. Sometimes you can't control how you feel over someone and to me it's not fair to try and play the friend game when both can't commit to it. Sometimes it's just better to let the relationship fall apart naturally and move onto other people. Not to say that it isn't shitty or sad, but you would rather your friend be happy then unhappy.
To me, if I can be myself with my friends and not feel nervous or worried around them, then they are awesome friends. If my friends make mistakes, then its cool with me because I am not perfect in any sense of the word lol. Again, if it is meant to last then it will last, if it doesn't then you take life a day at a time and hope that you'll meet even more people to experience life with.
The big difference between a significant other and a friend is the personal connection and intimacy you have with your partner. I say that my boyfriend is my best friend because he is someone who I can trust as much as I possibly can and I can be my absolute self with and not feel discriminated against. He is the one that can make me the happiest and the person I want to be around a little less then 24/7. He also turns me on physically and gave me the fireworks/bells and whistles/whatever those sappy movies come up with lol. This is really hard to find, but I honestly believe that it's out there and that if you work on yourself and keep trekking through life that anyone can find such people for themselves. I know I never gave up hope for it.
You'll figure it out as you go Himi-chan, this isn't something that is learned overnight. I don't think any relationship is easy, but you'll eventually find a few that work for you. Just don't be afraid to be alone at the end of the day, because no one is ever truly alone in this world (just feels that way sometimes).
Yeah I know being patient and waiting is the best way and will give you experiences you can rely on. But it does take away hope when every time you feel like you connect to a guy and became very close with that someone that they start falling for you. Sometimes they will accept your rejection and things still end up fading eventually or you accept and things just went to hell because you weren't able to return any feelings. Even if the break up is mild things still crash. Luckily I don't have problems with girls but I'm just a tomboy girl who just have it easier around guys than girls.
Maybe I'm just the problem to all this because I'm a very open person. I don't feel the need to hide anything and just speaks openly. Nothing is too personal so if someone ask I will just ask honestly. I do have my own limit and borders between friends and BF/GF but I somehow have a feeling that my borders are different from other 'normal' people?
Well tbh I'm not scared that scared of being alone because I have a loving family and good friends but I just don't want to live alone for the rest of my life, so even if I'm not alone I will still feel alone which can be way worse than actually being alone in my opinion. But that is just me.
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artcellrox
The Grey Knight :y
xhimitsu wrote...
Same as to 623 and that is thoughts and feeling from both partners that you don't want affection involved? Is it something you talked about or came to an agreement on or is it gut feeling from your side only? Of course it depends on a lot of things how friendships work out. Though I believe it shouldn't be so tricky and should be something natural.Yes, it's something I've talked about with the other person on occasion. Sometimes we realize that we don't really have any attraction or romantic feelings to each other, sometimes we discuss and realize that we'd actually make a good couple since we click in so many ways (but decide to not capitalize on it due to numerous factors that would make a relationship hard). Either way, I know that however I feel about the friend, said friend more than likely feels the same way in return.
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I don't think friendship is limited to gender; it's really more of how you percieve the people around yourself. I enjoy the company of both male and female friends without looking for any deeper relationship. During highschool, most of my friends were girls and I didn't hold strong feelings for any of them, we just enjoyed having fun together.
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xhimitsu wrote...
How can you be so sure there is no chance of it going beyond friendship? Sry if this question is too personal. I just never heard of something being 100% certain so what makes you so sure? If she broke up with her boyfriend now who knows she might develop feelings toward you, even if you think it might be awkward and embarrassing since you have known each other so long, she might feel that you are the best choice since you know her and wouldn't be surprised by her flaws ish.. I don't ask this to question your friendship it just makes me wonder.
Well, I didn't mention this before but since she broke up with her long-time boyfriend she has already found another guy she likes. Sometimes we'll talk about him because she's frustrated that nothing is happening between them. That to me, is a way to tell she doesn't think of me in a romantic way. Also, I don't think there's any chance of it going beyond friendship until I do something about it, and even though I have thought about it, I'm fine with just being friends. Its hard to explain, but we've been friends so long it would be weird to be anything else.
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shadowhawk69 wrote...
xhimitsu wrote...
How can you be so sure there is no chance of it going beyond friendship? Sry if this question is too personal. I just never heard of something being 100% certain so what makes you so sure? If she broke up with her boyfriend now who knows she might develop feelings toward you, even if you think it might be awkward and embarrassing since you have known each other so long, she might feel that you are the best choice since you know her and wouldn't be surprised by her flaws ish.. I don't ask this to question your friendship it just makes me wonder.
Well, I didn't mention this before but since she broke up with her long-time boyfriend she has already found another guy she likes. Sometimes we'll talk about him because she's frustrated that nothing is happening between them. That to me, is a way to tell she doesn't think of me in a romantic way. Also, I don't think there's any chance of it going beyond friendship until I do something about it, and even though I have thought about it, I'm fine with just being friends. Its hard to explain, but we've been friends so long it would be weird to be anything else.
I see I kind of understand, but then doesn't it mean you kind of can or if not already have feelings toward her just don't want to take the step cause you treasure your friendship over your feelings?
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xhimitsu wrote...
I see I kind of understand, but then doesn't it mean you kind of can or if not already have feelings toward her just don't want to take the step cause you treasure your friendship over your feelings?Yeah, that's pretty much it. It would possible for me to develop feelings, but the friendship is what's important to me.
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animefreak_usa
Child of Samael
Probably, but i never had a friend of the female kind i wasn't or haven't slept with since i was like 12.
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I like to think of it this way: If Female and Male Friendship was impossible, then no one would have girlfriends or boyfriends. I probably shouldn't be talking since I have no experience when it comes to relationships, but aren't girlfriends and boyfriends just a special type of friend? If you put normal friendship and romantic friendship (being in a relationship) in two different categories, then I honestly don't know the answer to the question lol.
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Gravity cat
the adequately amused
It is possible. It's a little ridiculous to think it isn't, when you think about it.
I have a few female friends who I'm not attracted to and who have not hinted they're attracted to me.
I have a few female friends who I'm not attracted to and who have not hinted they're attracted to me.
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I currently don't have any female friends, but i did have quite a few in the past. I do not know if they really thought of me as a close friend though, since they ended their friendships with me as soon as they got into serious relationships (jealous boyfriends, understandable).
Oh, and possibly the fact that half of the girls in question were rejected by me at some point could also have played a role in this...
Oh, and possibly the fact that half of the girls in question were rejected by me at some point could also have played a role in this...