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Tekn0x
12 years ago
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You are now in the prescence of a champion B|


I entered a standard tournament on sunday which 26 people showed up to. I entered with the deck i call goblin stake wins and got first place going 5-0. The prizes were a promo zameck guild mage, a promo something for top 8 it was a boros i forgot. a matt they gave out for first place that says champion across the bottom (picture at top), and 7 packs.

and idk if anyone remembers but if you do yes ive put this deck on here like 8 times before xD

Deck list:
Spoiler:
Mainboard:
20x mountain
4x goblin arsonist
4x slumbering dragon
4x faithless looting
3x pillar of flame
3x searing spear
4x krenko's command
4x ash zealot
3x fervor
3x brimstone volley
3x burn at the stake
3x krenko, mob boss
1x chandra, the fire brand
26x goblin tokens
Sideboard (it was bad (except against tokens)):
3x dynacharge
3x flames of the firebrand
4x arms dealer
1x burn at the stake
4x electrickery


How the tourny went:
Round one: Orzhov 2-0
Spoiler:
The opponent was playing against orzhov infinite combo with the guild mage and a 5 mana enchantment that basically did an infinite extort. He got land screwed both games despite adicuite mana fixing from his deck so i won 2-0


Round two: Selesnya 2-0
Spoiler:
I was playing against a pretty young kid playing green white tokens with cards that gained him life with a bunch of spirit token creation and the enchantments that go with them for white.

Game 1: I won due to slumbering dragon since he couldnt attack with his spirits without an answer big enough for slumbering not to kill him so he had to sit back. I won game one by stalling it out then summoning krenko and without an answer i swarmed him with goblins

Game 2: was rather similar but he found an answer for krenko so i had to sit back and burn and trade until i had fervor on the field which i insta summoned krenko when he had no mana tapped for about 5 more goblins putting me at like 11 creatures while he had 30 health which i then next turn burned at the stake for 30 damage and won


Round three: Golgari 2-0
Spoiler:
I played against golgari the guy wasnt too confident coming in since he saw my other 2-0s and he said his deck wasnt good vs hard aggro.

Game 1: he blew out of the gate where i kept a rather questionable hand but i managed to throw down some creatures and burn his big guys stablizing around 7 health and managiging to play defense until i built up a board state and burned at the stake for lethal.

Game 2: i had a perfect curve (goblin arsonist, Ash zealot, Fervor, Krenko) then throwing down a krenkos command then tapping krenko for a shit ton then just swarming and using brimstone volley to finish


Round four: Red deck wins 2-1
Spoiler:
Probably the most dificult deck to play against for me.

Game one: i got rather screwed for burn or some goblins and he punished me for it killing me turn 6 with a hell rider push the turn before into brimstone volley morbid for lethal after another attack.

Game two: I got a better curve and did some great plays with burn (also did some dumb things with forgeting that ash zealot couldnt block stromkirk noble and flashing back faithless forgettign there was 2 ashzealots on the field) but i managed to beat him down to 8 where i then swinged with everything (possible 5 damage in creatures) but i had a brimstone volley in hand where his only options were: chump block mitigating damage to 3 damage and me morbid brimstoning for lethal, Ignore and take all 5 damage then brimstone volleying for lethal, or sacrificing his entire board state at that moment with no cards in hand. He chose option one and i won.

Game 3: he kept a hand with 1 stromkirk and 2 volcanic strengths and 2 mountains after mulliganing to 5. I didnt know his hand but he had first play so he played stromkirk and my first turn instead of summoning anything i just pillared his stromkirk to punish his lack of a hand and this play literally won the game since i could not have killed the 5/5+ stromkirk noble.

Round five: Rakdos 2-1
Spoiler:
impoortant note: there was a delay before this round started so me and this guy talked alot and since i had already asked the guy before about his deck i figured id be polite and tell him everything that was in my deck so by the end of us discussing there was no hidden tricks in our decks we knew exactly how both were gonna opperate

His deck played similar to the red deck wins in that it was mass aggro. He started off with stromkirks or rakdos cacklers and this would lead into a gore house chain walker, ashe zealot, black kill spell, burn spell, etc.. he had the red aristocrat and some other scary black red cards so i was especially careful.

Game 1: started off with a beat down on both sides since he couldnt block and i couldnt trade so i just started damaging and leaving back a couple goblins to chump block. I beat him down to abotu 6 or so and he beat me down to 4. I had like 6 creatures on board (4 or so goblins, 1 zealot, 1 dragon (with 3 counters) and nothing in hand (same with him). I figured id start digging for my stake but i forgot about ash zealots ability so i took my self down to 1 health on accident. This play mistake cost me the game since 2 turns later he drew a searing spear and won.

game 2: i managed to get a fervor out and krenko after he wasted his burn spells on slumbering dragon when he could and got a bunch of krenko taps and managed to just swarm him beating him down to 5 on my last attack and brimstoning for the win.

game 3: He drew first and played a land and said go. i played a land then passed turn back. He played a stromkirk then passed. This is the most key point because i forgot stromkirk is unblockable to zealot because its human and kept it back to block. He attacked and pointed out my mistake with a sort of enthusiasm which i was rather dissapointed at. We went back and forth hitting eachother i got to about 12 and he was at around the same. I decided he was within burn at the stake range so i faithlessd without cairing about the double zealots i had on the field and knocked myself down pretty low searching my deck pretty hard for one faithless. I ended up burning through most of my deck with no luck. We both just started digging with me at 6 and him at 12 (i wasnt flashing back anymore sicne it would kill me but i hard casted 2). Eventually roughly 3 topdecks later with him just needing a brimstone to win (he could attack with everything and get through one damage including my dragon coming up) I drew my card and with almost no time to recognize the card i pulled i stood up and threw it on the table and shouted yes since it was burn at the stake which then burned him for lethal. I then apologized for being so enthusiastic and shook his hand saying he probably got second so its not too big of a deal (he ended up getting 3rd but whatever)
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BlinkXPoke Cards and Hugs abound
12 years ago
sakabato24 wrote...
I now dub Thragtusk, "Swag-Tusk", cause he's just so swag in Standard right now.


Some of my friends and I have taken to calling it "The Thrag-Father".

Tekn0x wrote...
Forum Image: https://www.fakku.net/image-404/images/1434814-B24CUMX.jpg
You are now in the prescence of a champion B|


I entered a standard tournament on sunday which 26 people showed up to. I entered with the deck i call goblin stake wins and got first place going 5-0. The prizes were a promo zameck guild mage, a promo something for top 8 it was a boros i forgot. a matt they gave out for first place that says champion across the bottom (picture at top), and 7 packs.

and idk if anyone remembers but if you do yes ive put this deck on here like 8 times before xD

Deck list:
Spoiler:
Mainboard:
20x mountain
4x goblin arsonist
4x slumbering dragon
4x faithless looting
3x pillar of flame
3x searing spear
4x krenko's command
4x ash zealot
3x fervor
3x brimstone volley
3x burn at the stake
3x krenko, mob boss
1x chandra, the fire brand
26x goblin tokens
Sideboard (it was bad (except against tokens)):
3x dynacharge
3x flames of the firebrand
4x arms dealer
1x burn at the stake
4x electrickery


How the tourny went:
Round one: Orzhov 2-0
Spoiler:
The opponent was playing against orzhov infinite combo with the guild mage and a 5 mana enchantment that basically did an infinite extort. He got land screwed both games despite adicuite mana fixing from his deck so i won 2-0


Round two: Selesnya 2-0
Spoiler:
I was playing against a pretty young kid playing green white tokens with cards that gained him life with a bunch of spirit token creation and the enchantments that go with them for white.

Game 1: I won due to slumbering dragon since he couldnt attack with his spirits without an answer big enough for slumbering not to kill him so he had to sit back. I won game one by stalling it out then summoning krenko and without an answer i swarmed him with goblins

Game 2: was rather similar but he found an answer for krenko so i had to sit back and burn and trade until i had fervor on the field which i insta summoned krenko when he had no mana tapped for about 5 more goblins putting me at like 11 creatures while he had 30 health which i then next turn burned at the stake for 30 damage and won


Round three: Golgari 2-0
Spoiler:
I played against golgari the guy wasnt too confident coming in since he saw my other 2-0s and he said his deck wasnt good vs hard aggro.

Game 1: he blew out of the gate where i kept a rather questionable hand but i managed to throw down some creatures and burn his big guys stablizing around 7 health and managiging to play defense until i built up a board state and burned at the stake for lethal.

Game 2: i had a perfect curve (goblin arsonist, Ash zealot, Fervor, Krenko) then throwing down a krenkos command then tapping krenko for a shit ton then just swarming and using brimstone volley to finish


Round four: Red deck wins 2-1
Spoiler:
Probably the most dificult deck to play against for me.

Game one: i got rather screwed for burn or some goblins and he punished me for it killing me turn 6 with a hell rider push the turn before into brimstone volley morbid for lethal after another attack.

Game two: I got a better curve and did some great plays with burn (also did some dumb things with forgeting that ash zealot couldnt block stromkirk noble and flashing back faithless forgettign there was 2 ashzealots on the field) but i managed to beat him down to 8 where i then swinged with everything (possible 5 damage in creatures) but i had a brimstone volley in hand where his only options were: chump block mitigating damage to 3 damage and me morbid brimstoning for lethal, Ignore and take all 5 damage then brimstone volleying for lethal, or sacrificing his entire board state at that moment with no cards in hand. He chose option one and i won.

Game 3: he kept a hand with 1 stromkirk and 2 volcanic strengths and 2 mountains after mulliganing to 5. I didnt know his hand but he had first play so he played stromkirk and my first turn instead of summoning anything i just pillared his stromkirk to punish his lack of a hand and this play literally won the game since i could not have killed the 5/5+ stromkirk noble.

Round five: Rakdos 2-1
Spoiler:
impoortant note: there was a delay before this round started so me and this guy talked alot and since i had already asked the guy before about his deck i figured id be polite and tell him everything that was in my deck so by the end of us discussing there was no hidden tricks in our decks we knew exactly how both were gonna opperate

His deck played similar to the red deck wins in that it was mass aggro. He started off with stromkirks or rakdos cacklers and this would lead into a gore house chain walker, ashe zealot, black kill spell, burn spell, etc.. he had the red aristocrat and some other scary black red cards so i was especially careful.

Game 1: started off with a beat down on both sides since he couldnt block and i couldnt trade so i just started damaging and leaving back a couple goblins to chump block. I beat him down to abotu 6 or so and he beat me down to 4. I had like 6 creatures on board (4 or so goblins, 1 zealot, 1 dragon (with 3 counters) and nothing in hand (same with him). I figured id start digging for my stake but i forgot about ash zealots ability so i took my self down to 1 health on accident. This play mistake cost me the game since 2 turns later he drew a searing spear and won.

game 2: i managed to get a fervor out and krenko after he wasted his burn spells on slumbering dragon when he could and got a bunch of krenko taps and managed to just swarm him beating him down to 5 on my last attack and brimstoning for the win.

game 3: He drew first and played a land and said go. i played a land then passed turn back. He played a stromkirk then passed. This is the most key point because i forgot stromkirk is unblockable to zealot because its human and kept it back to block. He attacked and pointed out my mistake with a sort of enthusiasm which i was rather dissapointed at. We went back and forth hitting eachother i got to about 12 and he was at around the same. I decided he was within burn at the stake range so i faithlessd without cairing about the double zealots i had on the field and knocked myself down pretty low searching my deck pretty hard for one faithless. I ended up burning through most of my deck with no luck. We both just started digging with me at 6 and him at 12 (i wasnt flashing back anymore sicne it would kill me but i hard casted 2). Eventually roughly 3 topdecks later with him just needing a brimstone to win (he could attack with everything and get through one damage including my dragon coming up) I drew my card and with almost no time to recognize the card i pulled i stood up and threw it on the table and shouted yes since it was burn at the stake which then burned him for lethal. I then apologized for being so enthusiastic and shook his hand saying he probably got second so its not too big of a deal (he ended up getting 3rd but whatever)


Haha, congratz man.
When I participated in Game Day, I couldn't get there, but when a friend does, you can only feel proud.
Except I'm less proud because he often wins it, lololol.
Still, Goblins gets there. I would've imagined it would've been eaten up by control, but I guess there wasn't that much control where you were at, or it's fast enough to smash control.

Your sideboard is indeed awkward, though. There are better options.
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gurall200
12 years ago
I had a post here, but I decided to simply erase the contents of it, it was largely irrelevant anyhow.
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artcellrox The Grey Knight :y
12 years ago
So how many people here still think Aurelia (and Boros in general) is still broken as fuck? :V
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Antw0n Remember me?
12 years ago
Remember my murder deck I was posting about a while back? [size=10]Of course you don't...[/h]

Anyway I finally got it put together a month ago or 2 ago, and so far its undefeated. [size=10]Except by this one burn deck. But that doesn't count.[/h]
My friends hate this deck.
Here's the decklist and strategy for those interested.

Spoiler:
Deck name: William Murderface Murderface Murderface [size=10](I call it William.)[/h]

Card count x60

Creatures x24
x1 Toshiro Umezawa
x1 Demon of Death's Gate
x2 Desecration Demon
x3 Gatekeeper of Malakir
x4 Inkfathom Infiltrator
x3 Ogre Marauder
x3 Royal Assassin
x4 Tormented Soul
x4 Vampire Nighthawk

Planeswalkers x1
x1 Liliana of the Dark Realms

Instants x12
x4 Murder
x4 Go for the Throat
x4 Unmake

Artifacts x1
x1 Demon's Horn

Land x22
x1 Barren Moor
x1 Shizo, Death's Storehouse
x20 Swamp

The deck's theme is removal but there is no 1 dominating strategy, a match with this deck can go any number of ways, all devastating.

Forum Image: https://www.fakku.net/image-404/images/1438563-95UXNA3.jpg

The groundwork of this deck came from Tormented Soul (1drop 1/1 unblockable, cant block), one of my favorite Black cards of all time. After doing research, I also found Inkfathom Infiltrator, basically just Tormented Soul but a 2/1 instead of a 1/1.
9 times out of 10, these guys will be your opening creatures. The beauty of Tormented Soul and Inkfathom Infiltrator is they can only be removed by, well removal. As soon as they drop they'll be chipping away at the opponent until he can take no more.
Also complimenting Tormented Soul and Inkfathrom Infiltrator is Ogre Marauder, a 3/1 with a fun ability- he can only be blocked if the defending player sacrifices a creature. Mwahaha! Take 3 or lose a creature, possibly to creatures if the blocker is weak enough.
Keeping to your Murders, Unmakes, and GftTs for defense, chipping away at your opponent with these unblockable bastards is how most games with the deck are won. (Using those three removals a given for any strategy, really.)

But those guys aren't the only stars of this deck.
Gatekeeper of Malakir can be dropped for 3, and target opponent must sacrifice a creature- for that is the toll for entering Malakir. Wouldn't wanna live there.
Royal Assassin always stops an opponent in his tracks, with his ability to destroy any tapped creature. A fierce opposing field can be frozen in place with just one Royal Assassin- imagine how your opponent will react to 2 or 3.
Ah, Vampire Nighthawk. a 3drop 2/3 Flying Deathtouch Lifelink. Need I say more?
Desecration Demon causes scoops half the time. When your opponent has already been battered down by your removals and then sees the newcomer, a 6/6 Flyer who can only be stopped by sacrificing creatures, they'll usually lose hope.
Toshiro Umezawa is a unique gamechanger in this deck. His ability allows you to play any instant in your graveyard again if an opponents creature is put into a graveyard.
Lemme put it this way. You have 6 swamps out, 1 murder in hand, Toshiro on the field.
Tap 3, BAM, murdered an opponents creature. Tap another 3, BAM, use that same Murder to get rid of a second creature. Eh? Eh?
Liliana of the Dark Realms really needs no explanation, more Swamps means more removal. Fun!
Demon's Horn is in here too- whenever a black spell is played, gain 1 life. Seems slightly out of place, but I've gained looooads of life off of this beauty.

Alright. Now here is the wombo combo.
Wanna have a 9/9 Flying Trampler on turn 2? Of course you do.
Demon of Death's Gate is always fun to draw into mid-game, cuz usually you can afford his alt-cost at that point if things are going your way.

Forum Image: https://www.fakku.net/image-404/images/1438564-EIDH7B5.jpg

But forget that. You want him on turn 2.
Its very rare, but very possible.
Your oppening hand must be the following:
Demon of Death's Gate x1, Tormented Soul x3, Swamp x2. The rest can be whatever.
Turn 1: Swamp, Tormented Soul.
Turn 2: Swamp, Tormented Soul, Tormented Soul, sac all 3, pay 6 life, Demon of Death's Gate.
Bam. Turn 2 9/9 Flying Trampler.
This CAN be modified to happen on Turn 3 or 4, depending on your hand. Both still very good.

Thats about it as far as using the deck goes.
It ran me around $50 or $60 if I recall....
I'd be happy to answer any questions or take suggestions.
Good luck, happy murdering!
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sakabato24 World Warrior
12 years ago
artcellrox wrote...
So how many people here still think Aurelia (and Boros in general) is still broken as fuck? :V


To be honest, I don't think that Boros isn't really good unless it is Human Boros. Battalion by itself isn't that great by itself since it is slow to get it started, and by then Control Decks can either Terminus, Supreme Verdict, Bonfire, or Blasphemous Act the creatures you control, and Boros has to start from Square One.

Faster decks like RDW, Gruul, and Rakdos decks ensure that they can kill most of your creatures before a Battalion trigger goes off or win by aggro'ing faster.

But then again, this is coming from a guy that is doing so poorly with his Human Boros deck himself, since everyone that I found play a lot of American Midrange, Esper, Jund, and Bant, which always have answers to aggro.

Aurelia in general is good though, if you can keep her alive or keep her from getting countered to use her ability.

In other news, I think I found out that I'm more of a Control player rather than a Aggro player due to me losing constantly with my Boros deck. Just can't compete against any of the decks that are running at the new shop that I go to. Just waiting on the cards to complete my Grixis Control Deck, and maybe I won't go 0-4 every time now. :\
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BlinkXPoke Cards and Hugs abound
12 years ago
artcellrox wrote...
So how many people here still think Aurelia (and Boros in general) is still broken as fuck? :V


Aurelia's beatable. It's hard to do, but it isn't always the kind of card that, once it hits play, the game just ends on the spot. Thankfully, she's one of the smallest six-drops I've ever seen, a 3/4 for six mana if you were to take away her (albeit crazily good) ability. A Mizzium Mortars shoots her down in one shot.

But if we're playing a game of Limited, yeah... Boros is probably among the best guilds to have, and there are few cards that beat Aurelia in Limited.

Antw0n wrote...
Remember my murder deck I was posting about a while back? [size=10]Of course you don't...[/h]

Anyway I finally got it put together a month ago or 2 ago, and so far its undefeated. [size=10]Except by this one burn deck. But that doesn't count.[/h]
My friends hate this deck.
Here's the decklist and strategy for those interested.

Spoiler:
Deck name: William Murderface Murderface Murderface [size=10](I call it William.)[/h]

Card count x60

Creatures x24
x1 Toshiro Umezawa
x1 Demon of Death's Gate
x2 Desecration Demon
x3 Gatekeeper of Malakir
x4 Inkfathom Infiltrator
x3 Ogre Marauder
x3 Royal Assassin
x4 Tormented Soul
x4 Vampire Nighthawk

Planeswalkers x1
x1 Liliana of the Dark Realms

Instants x12
x4 Murder
x4 Go for the Throat
x4 Unmake

Artifacts x1
x1 Demon's Horn

Land x22
x1 Barren Moor
x1 Shizo, Death's Storehouse
x20 Swamp

The deck's theme is removal but there is no 1 dominating strategy, a match with this deck can go any number of ways, all devastating.

Forum Image: https://www.fakku.net/image-404/images/1438563-95UXNA3.jpg

The groundwork of this deck came from Tormented Soul (1drop 1/1 unblockable, cant block), one of my favorite Black cards of all time. After doing research, I also found Inkfathom Infiltrator, basically just Tormented Soul but a 2/1 instead of a 1/1.
9 times out of 10, these guys will be your opening creatures. The beauty of Tormented Soul and Inkfathom Infiltrator is they can only be removed by, well removal. As soon as they drop they'll be chipping away at the opponent until he can take no more.
Also complimenting Tormented Soul and Inkfathrom Infiltrator is Ogre Marauder, a 3/1 with a fun ability- he can only be blocked if the defending player sacrifices a creature. Mwahaha! Take 3 or lose a creature, possibly to creatures if the blocker is weak enough.
Keeping to your Murders, Unmakes, and GftTs for defense, chipping away at your opponent with these unblockable bastards is how most games with the deck are won. (Using those three removals a given for any strategy, really.)

But those guys aren't the only stars of this deck.
Gatekeeper of Malakir can be dropped for 3, and target opponent must sacrifice a creature- for that is the toll for entering Malakir. Wouldn't wanna live there.
Royal Assassin always stops an opponent in his tracks, with his ability to destroy any tapped creature. A fierce opposing field can be frozen in place with just one Royal Assassin- imagine how your opponent will react to 2 or 3.
Ah, Vampire Nighthawk. a 3drop 2/3 Flying Deathtouch Lifelink. Need I say more?
Desecration Demon causes scoops half the time. When your opponent has already been battered down by your removals and then sees the newcomer, a 6/6 Flyer who can only be stopped by sacrificing creatures, they'll usually lose hope.
Toshiro Umezawa is a unique gamechanger in this deck. His ability allows you to play any instant in your graveyard again if an opponents creature is put into a graveyard.
Lemme put it this way. You have 6 swamps out, 1 murder in hand, Toshiro on the field.
Tap 3, BAM, murdered an opponents creature. Tap another 3, BAM, use that same Murder to get rid of a second creature. Eh? Eh?
Liliana of the Dark Realms really needs no explanation, more Swamps means more removal. Fun!
Demon's Horn is in here too- whenever a black spell is played, gain 1 life. Seems slightly out of place, but I've gained looooads of life off of this beauty.

Alright. Now here is the wombo combo.
Wanna have a 9/9 Flying Trampler on turn 2? Of course you do.
Demon of Death's Gate is always fun to draw into mid-game, cuz usually you can afford his alt-cost at that point if things are going your way.

Forum Image: https://www.fakku.net/image-404/images/1438564-EIDH7B5.jpg

But forget that. You want him on turn 2.
Its very rare, but very possible.
Your oppening hand must be the following:
Demon of Death's Gate x1, Tormented Soul x3, Swamp x2. The rest can be whatever.
Turn 1: Swamp, Tormented Soul.
Turn 2: Swamp, Tormented Soul, Tormented Soul, sac all 3, pay 6 life, Demon of Death's Gate.
Bam. Turn 2 9/9 Flying Trampler.
This CAN be modified to happen on Turn 3 or 4, depending on your hand. Both still very good.

Thats about it as far as using the deck goes.
It ran me around $50 or $60 if I recall....
I'd be happy to answer any questions or take suggestions.
Good luck, happy murdering!


I'm not a big fan of Demon's Horn, or that cycle in general. I'd rather how more proactive cards. But, you're monoblack, and you have that Demon (which I'd imagine you'd ALWAYS pay the alternate cost for), so I can see it's role in this deck.

Still seems funny. I like a theme about just killing everything. My first black deck was similar to this (except it was more revolved around the Zendikar creatures that had bonuses if an opponent had 10 or less life).

This being said, you only have targeted removal... I guess you've never played against the hexproof auras deck. I'm sure that one would bug you. Sacrifice effects would still work, however.
There's also plenty of creature-light/creatureless decks, making all of your removal dead draws. Storm for example, sometimes won't ever cast its one creature some games.

Also, you ever consider adding mass removal? Not only would a Damnation or something similar fit with the theme of the deck, it addresses the issue about untargetable creatures, since boardwipes don't target.
This said, your creatures are important to you, since you are a kind of beatdown deck, so it's up to you.
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Antw0n Remember me?
12 years ago
BlinkXPoke wrote...
Also, you ever consider adding mass removal? Not only would a Damnation or something similar fit with the theme of the deck, it addresses the issue about untargetable creatures, since boardwipes don't target.


I would run the fuck out of Damnation. Only problem is it costs as much as half the entire deck, 2 would pay off a whole copy of the deck.
I ain't got the money fo' that shit.
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BlinkXPoke Cards and Hugs abound
12 years ago
sakabato24 wrote...
artcellrox wrote...
So how many people here still think Aurelia (and Boros in general) is still broken as fuck? :V


To be honest, I don't think that Boros isn't really good unless it is Human Boros. Battalion by itself isn't that great by itself since it is slow to get it started, and by then Control Decks can either Terminus, Supreme Verdict, Bonfire, or Blasphemous Act the creatures you control, and Boros has to start from Square One.

Faster decks like RDW, Gruul, and Rakdos decks ensure that they can kill most of your creatures before a Battalion trigger goes off or win by aggro'ing faster.

But then again, this is coming from a guy that is doing so poorly with his Human Boros deck himself, since everyone that I found play a lot of American Midrange, Esper, Jund, and Bant, which always have answers to aggro.

Aurelia in general is good though, if you can keep her alive or keep her from getting countered to use her ability.

In other news, I think I found out that I'm more of a Control player rather than a Aggro player due to me losing constantly with my Boros deck. Just can't compete against any of the decks that are running at the new shop that I go to. Just waiting on the cards to complete my Grixis Control Deck, and maybe I won't go 0-4 every time now. :\


I doubt that the problem is with your deck. It's probably with the meta.
Everyone believed aggro would become much stronger with the coming of Gatecrash (which it did), but there was enough to give control a chance against aggro, that these decks went all-out in just trying to stop aggro, forcing in as much lifegain and tempo spells in their decks as they could. This is why control/midrange mirrors last so long these days... Matches are either frighteningly quick, or ridiculously long.

I'll admit, my deck of choice now is a RUG midrange deck, but it, in fact, does not have strong answers to aggro. This is because where I play, it's still mostly control (though some have types of hyper-aggresive decks which are tough for me to beat). But I plan to turn my RDW into the Red-Green Saito list which seems exciting, too.

Antw0n wrote...
BlinkXPoke wrote...
Also, you ever consider adding mass removal? Not only would a Damnation or something similar fit with the theme of the deck, it addresses the issue about untargetable creatures, since boardwipes don't target.


I would run the fuck out of Damnation. Only problem is it costs as much as half the entire deck, 2 would pay off a whole copy of the deck.
I ain't got the money fo' that shit.


You could play Barter in Blood, the budget Damnation, as it were. Or, perhaps, Mutilate, which would be awesome in your deck since it's MonoB.

Also, I just remembered the creature Blood Artist, which I think would be amazing in your deck. You drain life out of your opponent every time something dies (even on your side), and since your goal is killing everything in sight...
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kickiluxxx
12 years ago
BlinkXPoke wrote...
artcellrox wrote...
So how many people here still think Aurelia (and Boros in general) is still broken as fuck? :V


Aurelia's beatable. It's hard to do, but it isn't always the kind of card that, once it hits play, the game just ends on the spot. Thankfully, she's one of the smallest six-drops I've ever seen, a 3/4 for six mana if you were to take away her (albeit crazily good) ability. A Mizzium Mortars shoots her down in one shot.

But if we're playing a game of Limited, yeah... Boros is probably among the best guilds to have, and there are few cards that beat Aurelia in Limited.


I don't know why, but it's actually funny that no one in my place has played Aurelia successfully. Either she gets countered (usually by Spell Rupture) or she gets Feeling of Dread or Downpour, Terminus or whatever.
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BlinkXPoke Cards and Hugs abound
12 years ago
Been spending a long while on this deck, RUG control. It started as a Simic deck I made 'cus I was bored, and just wanted a deck that was both competitive and had the fun cards I wanted to play (like Zegana), and I realized if I splashed red, it'd seem very strong, and give the deck better sideboard options.
EDIT: By now, though, the red probably isn't just a splash anymore.

It turned out that it is quite strong, seems to have a pretty good matchup against other midrange or control decks, but I found that it's extremely weak to aggro, so I've been trying to refine it to shore up that weakness without softening it to other decks.

This is the latest version of the deck, which hasn't been tested much yet:
Spoiler:

3 Huntmaster of the Fells
4 Master Biomancer
4 Thragtusk
2 Prime Speaker, Zegana
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13 Creatures


2 Jace, Architect of Thought
2 Garruk, Primal Hunter
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4 Planeswalkers


4 Farseek
3 Searing Spear
2 Think Twice
4 Mizzium Mortars
2 Dissipate
3 Counterflux
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18 Other Spells

4 Steam Vents
4 Breeding Pool
2 Stomping Ground
4 Sulfur Falls
4 Hinterland Harbor
4 Rootbound Crag
2 Kessig Wolf Run
1 Alchemist's Refuge
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25 Lands


Sideboard:
Spoiler:

1 Grafdigger's Cage
1 Pithing Needle
1 Bonfire of the Damned
2 Negate
1 Ancient Grudge
1 Ground Seal
2 Rolling Temblor
2 Triumph of Ferocity
2 Witchbane Orb
1 Huntmaster of the Fells
1 Thundermaw Hellkite
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15 Cards
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sakabato24 World Warrior
12 years ago
My second FNM went a bit better. 2-2. Not too bad, considering that I was playing RDW, even though I didn't really want to run it due to the fact that I really don't like the play-style of RDW.
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BlinkXPoke Cards and Hugs abound
12 years ago
sakabato24 wrote...
My second FNM went a bit better. 2-2. Not too bad, considering that I was playing RDW, even though I didn't really want to run it due to the fact that I really don't like the play-style of RDW.


Not bad. Monored is pretty powerful. The right draw puts your opponent to zero in a hurry.
What don't you like about it? Too simple? Too repetitive? I know one reason I don't like running aggro all the time is because the plan is the same every game. At least with slower decks, you have wider decision trees, which can send the game in more directions.
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sakabato24 World Warrior
12 years ago
BlinkXPoke wrote...
sakabato24 wrote...
My second FNM went a bit better. 2-2. Not too bad, considering that I was playing RDW, even though I didn't really want to run it due to the fact that I really don't like the play-style of RDW.


Not bad. Monored is pretty powerful. The right draw puts your opponent to zero in a hurry.
What don't you like about it? Too simple? Too repetitive? I know one reason I don't like running aggro all the time is because the plan is the same every game. At least with slower decks, you have wider decision trees, which can send the game in more directions.


I feel the exact same way about it. Just too single-minded. Of course, you also have to think smart of what to play on the board, especially if you don't want to run out of a hand quick nor get face-planted by a board-wipe, but other than that, it's just way too straight-forward to me.

*EDIT*

Also just got in some Ultra Pro and KMC sleeves in the mail. I really like the KMC sleeves though over the Ultra Pros due to the quality feel to them.

Spoiler:
Forum Image: http://i619.photobucket.com/albums/tt276/sakabato24/IMG_0434_zps75ff0ae8.jpg
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BlinkXPoke Cards and Hugs abound
12 years ago
sakabato24 wrote...
BlinkXPoke wrote...
sakabato24 wrote...
My second FNM went a bit better. 2-2. Not too bad, considering that I was playing RDW, even though I didn't really want to run it due to the fact that I really don't like the play-style of RDW.


Not bad. Monored is pretty powerful. The right draw puts your opponent to zero in a hurry.
What don't you like about it? Too simple? Too repetitive? I know one reason I don't like running aggro all the time is because the plan is the same every game. At least with slower decks, you have wider decision trees, which can send the game in more directions.


I feel the exact same way about it. Just too single-minded. Of course, you also have to think smart of what to play on the board, especially if you don't want to run out of a hand quick nor get face-planted by a board-wipe, but other than that, it's just way too straight-forward to me.

*EDIT*

Also just got in some Ultra Pro and KMC sleeves in the mail. I really like the KMC sleeves though over the Ultra Pros due to the quality feel to them.

Spoiler:
Forum Image: http://i619.photobucket.com/albums/tt276/sakabato24/IMG_0434_zps75ff0ae8.jpg


Yeah, need to be careful not to over-extend.

And I don't like Ultra Pros. Corners bend quite easily, and the sleeves themselves are flimsy. They've torn apart on me, as I'm sleeving them.
Why I often use Player's Choice sleeves.

Those are nice anime sleeves, too. I finally got some for myself last week because the shop got some sweet SAO ones.
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kickiluxxx
12 years ago
sakabato24 wrote...
BlinkXPoke wrote...
sakabato24 wrote...
My second FNM went a bit better. 2-2. Not too bad, considering that I was playing RDW, even though I didn't really want to run it due to the fact that I really don't like the play-style of RDW.


Not bad. Monored is pretty powerful. The right draw puts your opponent to zero in a hurry.
What don't you like about it? Too simple? Too repetitive? I know one reason I don't like running aggro all the time is because the plan is the same every game. At least with slower decks, you have wider decision trees, which can send the game in more directions.


I feel the exact same way about it. Just too single-minded. Of course, you also have to think smart of what to play on the board, especially if you don't want to run out of a hand quick nor get face-planted by a board-wipe, but other than that, it's just way too straight-forward to me.

*EDIT*

Also just got in some Ultra Pro and KMC sleeves in the mail. I really like the KMC sleeves though over the Ultra Pros due to the quality feel to them.

Spoiler:
Forum Image: http://i619.photobucket.com/albums/tt276/sakabato24/IMG_0434_zps75ff0ae8.jpg


Uhm, can I ask where you got those Kirino sleeves? They look really good and I'm running out of sleeves.

I'm just also curious, at around what turn should an aggro deck win to be considered an aggro deck?
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sakabato24 World Warrior
12 years ago
kickiluxxx wrote...
sakabato24 wrote...
BlinkXPoke wrote...
sakabato24 wrote...
My second FNM went a bit better. 2-2. Not too bad, considering that I was playing RDW, even though I didn't really want to run it due to the fact that I really don't like the play-style of RDW.


Not bad. Monored is pretty powerful. The right draw puts your opponent to zero in a hurry.
What don't you like about it? Too simple? Too repetitive? I know one reason I don't like running aggro all the time is because the plan is the same every game. At least with slower decks, you have wider decision trees, which can send the game in more directions.


I feel the exact same way about it. Just too single-minded. Of course, you also have to think smart of what to play on the board, especially if you don't want to run out of a hand quick nor get face-planted by a board-wipe, but other than that, it's just way too straight-forward to me.

*EDIT*

Also just got in some Ultra Pro and KMC sleeves in the mail. I really like the KMC sleeves though over the Ultra Pros due to the quality feel to them.

Spoiler:
Forum Image: http://i619.photobucket.com/albums/tt276/sakabato24/IMG_0434_zps75ff0ae8.jpg


Uhm, can I ask where you got those Kirino sleeves? They look really good and I'm running out of sleeves.

I'm just also curious, at around what turn should an aggro deck win to be considered an aggro deck?


To me as of right now in Standard, I'd say turn 4 consistently if you play your cards right.

I also got my sleeves from this site :

http://zakkafe.storenvy.com/collections/120401-tcg-supply

She also has an Ebay account, which before this website, was the place to buy TCG sleeves from her. Unfortunately, she sold out on the Kirino sleeves, but there are plenty of sleeves on both her Ebay account and her Storenvy account.
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kickiluxxx
12 years ago
sakabato24 wrote...
kickiluxxx wrote...
sakabato24 wrote...
BlinkXPoke wrote...
sakabato24 wrote...
My second FNM went a bit better. 2-2. Not too bad, considering that I was playing RDW, even though I didn't really want to run it due to the fact that I really don't like the play-style of RDW.


Not bad. Monored is pretty powerful. The right draw puts your opponent to zero in a hurry.
What don't you like about it? Too simple? Too repetitive? I know one reason I don't like running aggro all the time is because the plan is the same every game. At least with slower decks, you have wider decision trees, which can send the game in more directions.


I feel the exact same way about it. Just too single-minded. Of course, you also have to think smart of what to play on the board, especially if you don't want to run out of a hand quick nor get face-planted by a board-wipe, but other than that, it's just way too straight-forward to me.

*EDIT*

Also just got in some Ultra Pro and KMC sleeves in the mail. I really like the KMC sleeves though over the Ultra Pros due to the quality feel to them.

Spoiler:
Forum Image: http://i619.photobucket.com/albums/tt276/sakabato24/IMG_0434_zps75ff0ae8.jpg


Uhm, can I ask where you got those Kirino sleeves? They look really good and I'm running out of sleeves.

I'm just also curious, at around what turn should an aggro deck win to be considered an aggro deck?


To me as of right now in Standard, I'd say turn 4 consistently if you play your cards right.

I also got my sleeves from this site :

http://zakkafe.storenvy.com/collections/120401-tcg-supply

She also has an Ebay account, which before this website, was the place to buy TCG sleeves from her. Unfortunately, she sold out on the Kirino sleeves, but there are plenty of sleeves on both her Ebay account and her Storenvy account.


Ahh, I knew my Boros deck isn't that aggro. Sometimes, I have to defend and wait a bit.

The sleeves fit Magic perfectly? And are they tought? Usually, I use Fantasy Flight Sleeves
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BlinkXPoke Cards and Hugs abound
12 years ago
kickiluxxx wrote...

I'm just also curious, at around what turn should an aggro deck win to be considered an aggro deck?


At latest, turn 6.
But I don't think that's a criteria you should be using when describing what an aggro deck is. An aggro deck is focused on using creatures to get the opponent from twenty to zero as quickly as possible.
The new combo deck I play can kill turn 2, but it's not aggro.
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kickiluxxx
12 years ago
BlinkXPoke wrote...
kickiluxxx wrote...

I'm just also curious, at around what turn should an aggro deck win to be considered an aggro deck?


At latest, turn 6.
But I don't think that's a criteria you should be using when describing what an aggro deck is. An aggro deck is focused on using creatures to get the opponent from twenty to zero as quickly as possible.
The new combo deck I play can kill turn 2, but it's not aggro.


What deck is it? That sounds brutal
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