Magic the Gathering

I think anyone not intrested in the new one black ravenous rats is insane i know theres gonna be some retarded modern deck built around having 40 of the same card in your deck. Im thinking labratory maniac and a card like slaughter games targeting the 40 of and then just mill the last 20 or so cards to win



tl;dr: Firebrand has a worse +1 but is much more versatile and has a more relevant second ability


Well the +1 is literally just better then firebrands

Her 0 is really bad its gonna wiff a good amount of the time on lands you cant play or spells that arent helpful you dont want to spend mana on. Just compare this ability to other 0 abilities like jaces which can end games 3 turns after play sometimes

her ult is good obviously and can get it out in a reasonable amount of time but still ults usually end the game regardless so its not something to imortant


anyway shes gonna be like 30 bucks on release and drop to like 12 is my guess xD

You must mean Relentless Rats when you compare Shadowborn Apostle.
I'll admit, I'm not interested in it. Sure, there are cute tricks with it, but I'm not gonna stuff a deck with those guys to cheat out Demons, and I've never seen the combo you're talking about work consistently.
I have seen how that deck looks, though. Tons of Relentless Rats, Surgical Extraction, Lab Maniac, and some stuff to protect the combo. Never have seen it make a splash though.

Songs of the Damned
Culling the Weak
Tendrils of Agony
Griselbrand
Lotus Petal
Chrome Mox
Cruel Bargain
Infernal Contract
Shadowborn Apostle

Goin to town on someone

Shadowborn Storm? I kinda like this direction, seems funny. Looks as though it can OTK someone, too.

I'm working on a legacy Goblin deck, this is what I got so far: http://www.mtgdeckbuilder.net/Decks/ViewDeck/666036.

I just bought four Tarfires, two Wort, Boggart Aunties, four Warren Weirdings, and the mana to make it red/black. When these cards come in, I plan to take out the Lightning Bolts and Grenades and put four Tarfires, two Worts and a fourth Ringleader in there.

I know I need Piledrivers but they are so expensive. I have two sharpshooters sitting around, but once again I have no idea how to fit them in.

Any advice is appreciated.

I don't know about adding the cards you want to add. Keeping it mono-red makes the mana base extremely simple, and the Lightning Bolt and Goblin Grenade seem better than Tarfire and Weirding, simply because they do more damage. I'd think you just want to kill them ASAP. For that reason, I also don't like Goblin Matron. A 1/1 for three mana doesn't sound right to me in this kind of deck, though I guess it gives you another Goblin to work with.

If you can afford it, Cavern of Souls is amazing in your deck. Since every creature is a Goblin, playing a Cavern lets you fear no counterspell.

With any luck between Lackey and Instigator I'm never actually paying the mana to play any of my high drop cards. The main reason I'm aiming to take out the Lightning Bolts and Grenades is because they don't work with Ringleader and so many times they've gotten sent to the bottom of my deck.

Er, right... You probably won't need to spend any mana the Matron anyways. Then, that's fine.

I still like Bolt and Grenade, though. They're lots of damage for only one mana. Tarfire might be fine, but the Warren Weirding simply doesn't seem worth splashing for.

The MAIN point of the splash wild be for Auntie, and with the dual mana available it's really not going to slow me down. I'd have Auntie Hovel as well as Dragon skull Summit so it wouldn't affect me too much.

You do bring up a good point of splashing for no real good reason, maybe I'll just sideboard the black cards for team and multiplayer games when I actually need to last.

It still feels like an awkward splash, even for that card. With so little black that you plan to add, you may as well just stick with red. Stays quite consistent.

Are you wanting to make this competitive, as I played legacy goblins in tournaments for a bit. For that matter, the link doesn't work.

I will say this though, Piledrivers are good in the deck, but not necessary, if you don't play against a lot of combo or Blue based control (with Jace 2.0s and what not), they aren't that essential and can be easily cut for other things.

Remove the Period at the end of the link, out of habit I put it there.

Would you guys help me suggest a good Blue/Red Deck,oh btw is someone here planning a Mass Shadowborn Apostle,Griselbrand and other Demon cards build, I think it's really cool.

A good blue-red deck, just for fun, or for competitive play? If competitive, what format? There's plenty of interesting directions you can go with that color combination.

Competitive Play, More of Modern type format

Play UWR control for modern. It adds white so you can add in a lot more versatility with control. They usually run :

Giest of Saint Traft
Path to Exile
Electrolyze
Remand
Lightning Bolt
Spell Snare
Mana Leak
Izzet Charm
Snapcaster Mage
Vendillion Clique
Aven Mindcensor

If just UR, look at the token decks that have been running around using :

Kiki-Jiki
Splinter Twin
Spellskite
Pestermite

RWU Control and Kiki-Twin that saka suggested are good. Proven their worth in Modern. I actually wanted to try making a RWU control deck of some sort for Modern.

-There's also the Pyromancer's Ascension Storm deck in Modern, but it's harder to combo off since Seething Song was banned.
-A Blue-Red-Green version of Scapeshift-Valakut is powerful, too, the blue giving the deck control elements to survive long enough execute its combo.
-An all-in aggro deck exists using Nivmagus Elemental, Kiln Fiend, Nivix Cyclops or other similar creatures, and using as many Phyrexian mana spells to grow them to massive numbers and kill as early as turn two.
-Another Storm deck is the Blistercoil Weird-Paradise Mantle combo deck, which is somewhat inconsistent, but near unstoppable once it gets started.
-Finally, there is a Merfolk deck I've seen that splashes red for removal. Usually it's monoblue, but I like the idea of adding Lightning Bolt and the like.

EDIT:

With M14 about to be unleashed, I know for sure I want to play a deck with Primeval Bounty and the new Garruk in it. So I cobbled together a Bant list I want to try the moment I'm able to do so. It could be more refined for sure (I went some directions I didn't mean to go), but I took into consideration that this could be easily built with cards I already have. I'd like Voice of Resurgence and more Sphinx's Revelations, but unfortunately, I don't have those.
I should mention that this list is currently completely untested; it's just an idea I have that I really want to go for. Gonna fire up some games on Cockatrice to see how much I like it, and make neccessary adjustments.

Cube so STRONG!

MTGO is having Cube Draft up until the 24th. Hopefully you'll guys appreciate WotC for doing Cube for us again.

If only I actually had an MTGO account. Though, if I really wanted to Cube, at least I have a friend who has a pretty good one.
Pretty sweet deck you got there, btw. You do well with it?

Nope. As of right now, I'm 0-2 with it. It was a good concept of a deck, just hurts that I can't get enough damage to go through before I, myself lose. :\