Street Harassment

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b1XGPvbWn0A

So a friend showed me this video and I thought it was a joke until I found out people were taking it very seriously. I want everyone's opinion on this because I'm honestly intrigued by what some people consider harassment.

So I suppose the question is do you see this as harassment? If not where do you draw the line? and how would you feel if people said these things to you?

Yeah I saw this. I don't consider most of it harassment. The guy that was walking beside her for five minutes was creepy though. If I was her, I would've ran.

Here's a video in response to this one:

I actually misread the thread title as "Sweet harassment".
Needless to say i was quite confused when i started watching the video.

I don't think that this is sexual harassment and the people who made this video went way too far with the notion.

That being said, personally though I don't really feel comfortable when people do this sort of thing. I understand that some of it was just to be nice such as "hello/have a nice day" and "you look beautiful". Other comment's such as "dam girl" or "hey there hot stuff" get's a bit more uncomfortable and I sometimes wish that those comments could be kept private. The guy walking next to her/the other guy asking for her number while saying is he too ugly for her was a bit too much.

I basically feel like an object vs being a person when I get such attention. I won't say that it's wrong to say how you feel, I just feel uncomfortable about it when it's said to me and I don't even know the person's name. I never felt empowered, I felt like I was being judged. I've also had it taken too far/seen the bad side of such attention so you almost wish you could avoid it entirely. You can't say anything about it either because people throw it back at you saying, "well with how you look you probably asked for it".... so in the end you just try to let such things go and be the best you that you can be.

Not everyone goes through this and I get people would kill for such attention, but it's not all it's cracked up to be. I sort of look at it as the whole curly vs straight hair; some people would wish for curlier hair vs straight and vise versa. I know I use to get shit from people for saying I hate when I get attention like that since when you do everyone gets up in arms saying that they'd want it and your a bitch for thinking that way. You end up just keeping your mouth closed and just try to live with it... you also just try to be as safe as possible (aka have friends around if you go out, always make sure you have your phone charged, keep an eye out for people that could potentially hurt you).

tl;dr - I don't see this as sexual harassment, but to say that this type of this ins't somewhat annoying would be a lie. Again I don't think anything should/can be done about it you just have to be as safe as possible when you're out and about. I may say I get annoyed, but this is just my personal thought and nothing more. I'm thankful for how I look, but you have two sides to everything so if I internally feel a certain way I can't help it. I won't bitch or complain about it such as the two youtube video's did, I'm just stating how this sort of thing feels since I have been through it before.

If that was sexual harassment then I need to call the cops about getting hit on at work all the time from customers. To me those were all basic greetings. Yes most of those guys I bet if greeted back then turn to a second agenda, but still not sexual harassment. If they would have said something like "look at that ass" or "damn girl nice breasts" or something along those lines I think I would have taken the video as being a showing of a women being sexually harassed on the streets.

Hmm those guys are clearly desperate who lack some basic common sense on how to approach a woman....or it could be that these tactics have worked for them in the past and thus are trying them again. I dunno.
In any case, I grown tired of feminists the likes of Anita Sarkeesian who try to cause an uproar over the the trivials shit. Femenismn used be about bringing equality and dignity to everyone regardless of gender or race. But now its all about stupid shit like this.
Women still stoned to death in Iran, Saudi Arabia; women being hounded by mobs and in public for not wearing a hijab in places like Egypt,Irak, Palestine. Women practically turned to slaves and forced to work at $1 per hour in India, Pakistan. Mexican women still being brutally raped and murdered on the US-Mexican border.
So yes, I might get some hate for saying but I honestly don't care for these feminists and their First World problems.

Y'know, if I was a bigger drama queen I could actually turn this around and claim victimhood for I had women pinch my butt, outright say "yum" and eating me with their eyes, and not so long ago my supervisor, who is a female, outright told me to my face I looked sexy in glasses.
So yea...

You shouldn't cat call on the street. Talk to the ho.

The walk was claimed to have been 10 hours while the video is only 1 minute and 56. Even the timeskip from that one creepy dude only cut out a couple of minutes.

I'd have thought that wearing skinny jeans and a tight top is not all that comfortable, and the only reason anyone would wear such clothing is for the sole purpose of attracting attention by showing off your body shape. Or to give you shape.

Also a tad conveniant that nobody else in the video was "harrassed", and there were plenty of people.

It looked like a small camera hidden in clothing or some kind of bag, so the person probably walked in front of her with it pointing backwards.

Saw it, honestly its has two sides. One is yes there was a creepy guy and there were rude comments about *albeit her fine ass.

But the fact that is was a 10 hour long walk and the woman harassed all the way was an over reaction.

The Second side was people simply greeted her, I guess its harassment if it was all dudes and they were trying to be nice despite their obvious ulterior motives.

I haven't watched the dude version tho, how was it?

It wasn't very funny. TBH, it would've been funnier if they portrayed what really happens when a guy walks around for hours (nothing).

In regard to the second video, I stand corrected.

same thing done in NZ

Men saying hello and making comments, not harassment.
The two creeps following her (at least the one talking all the time), yes, those two examples i would consider harassment.

This to me is just simple self victimization by self entitled feminist who wants to make all of the worlds problems revolve around them selves. This is very close to the peak of self entitlement, "only those men who i find attractive are allowed to speak to me or make comments and only at the times i think it is ok. If the first contact made by a man doesn't fall into those two criteria, you are harassing me."

I never had this 'problem' of women cat calling at me (i wish though i had that problem), and i doubt i have ever cat called at women (maybe if i have been really drunk), but even still, the world doesn't revolve around you or me. If an 'ugly' man says something to you and it makes you uncomfortable, just ignore them and walk away. If some idiot starts following you, maybe you should say something like "Leave me alone", "I am not interested" or something, and if that doesn't work, call the cops or pepper spray the bastard.

Honestly, coming from a female, unwanted/sketchy comments in public by somebody you don't know can be a bit.... creepy. It might have pure/good intentions (they usually don't, as I've rarely gotten an actual compliment walking home at night, it's usually just catcalls...) but they can be taken the wrong way.

Like saying ''hi'' trying to start a conversation with a girl might make her a little annoyed if it's not wanted, but it's certainly not harassment, if it's nothing sketchy. However, some men need to realize ''nice tits/ass/body part'' or yelling unwanted sexual comments is not a compliment. it's just gross.

there's a difference between being friendly and being annoying/creepy, bottom line. (And catcalling is can actually be really scary, because when you don't respond to them they can get rude, aggressive and sometimes even violent...)

Sorry I was laughing so much while watching the video. To think that such stupid and desperate guys actually exist. I mean sorry what was all the "am I too ugly for you" Also I think she was quite stupid too. I don't see her as a victim at all and most of the comment were nothing bad or rude at all. So to the question do I think it is harassment? No I don't think so. Well some of the things were uncomfortable and I wouldn't have been happy to be in the situation. Maybe I'm pretty large about such things? Words don't really bother me you can always ignore them. Though those who walked together with her and asking for her number were creeps. I would probably be ticked off and stopping to see if they would stop and if so I would ask them to leave me alone. But it seems like this happens most in the States, since like only 2 people in the NZ video stopped or talked to the girl?

I don't know if it is just me or if it is even normal in the States but I think she is rude for not replying to those who wished her a good day. If a stranger said "Have a nice day" or "have a good day" I would reply with a Thank you. Also saying the girl herself is asking for it by the clothes she wears is ridiculous. The US is a open and free country shouldn't you be allowed to wear whatever you want without people needing to comment on it? I personally don't like jeans but I wear stockings and leggings which are really tight too. I wear them cause I like them, and because I think I look good in it and not for other people's pleasure. Also tight clothes can be comfortable too if they just don't stop your blood flow. Saying a girl wearing tight clothes is asking for cat calls and comments is the same as saying guys who wear plain T-shirts are asking to be stamped as someone who doesn't care about his appearance. People should stop judging others on their clothes.

I think my limit is when people actually get TOO close to my personal space or actually touch me. I don't mind people shouting stupid comments I just roll my eyes and ignore them. Also I like to wear what I want and if people need to judge me then let them, I wouldn't bother interacting with people who just judge others anyway.

I would consider this an unfair experiment, especially when you're in a city with a population of 8.5mil and walking around for 10 hours, she's practically fishing for compliments. And all she got is 2 minutes worth out of 9 hours and 58 minutes, and the 38 million video views implies the experiment has gone successfully. But considering the like/dislike bar has been removed, I beg the differ.

I honestly don't think this video proves anything, if you're a pretty girl walking through dense areas for 10 hours, you're bound to get a comment or two and last time I've checked, we don't live in the perfect world. The only message is sending from the video that all men are the same and blah blah blah, for viewers who in their teenager years and have constant arguments with her dad, that or the feminazis.

If you want to stop harassments in streets, regardless of your gender, race or religion, education is the key.

I can kind of understand your viewpoint on things, but comparing feminists to nazis is a bit.....extreme.