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Street Harassment
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El ORLY
*PokerFace*
Nyara❤ wrote...
El ORLY wrote...
I think perhaps this is getting a bit confusing to follow.So I'll just reiterate some things to make it clear where I stand.
I'm all for women's rights so by your definition I could be considered a feminist, since the term feminist is not exclusive to women, it would not incorrect to say I'm a feminist. However, because I'm a male and not a female, anything that I have to say would be dismissed by bunch of other feminist simply because I'm a guy regardless of how much I'm for women's rights etc..
I leave you with this video from Based Mom
[youtube]http://m.youtube.com/watch?list=PLytTJqkSQqtozQffMxSaYEySkAGlT_unH&v=KM5XpSTPcTo[/youtube]
It's funny you said that, because about the half of the feminists are males (including radicals)~ In fact, the video (OT) was planned and done by a men (that focus more on artistic stuff rather than feminism). The T-Skirt scandal was done by a men, too (who is an idiot). The unique difference on the movement between male and female are that males have to employ empathy (thinking about how woman feel, like the uncomfortable feeling during constant cat-call), while females more often talk about their live experiences. Most feminists wouldn't reject you for your gender, neither, even most of the radicals (though a very few will do, we should reject those man-haters, too).
Franky I'm not very happy with the current feminist movement (worldwide, not just the one of the developed countries). I think there's a lot of "protectionism" to those radical feminist who're doing things wrong, like some female judges just to start with. I think we should voice stronger against them and try to reject them from the movement. And yes, the HeForShe campaign started by the UN Woman is a good approach to the issue.
Hmm I'm kinda done with this thread. Too much is spent on going back and forth. It honestly felt no different than when I naively engaged in talks with religious peeps about religion. Too much mental gymnastics.
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>Man with the black bonnet and red skirt
I think he seen through it, just look at his face, XD!
>Man with the black bonnet and red skirt
I think he seen through it, just look at his face, XD!
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xhimitsu wrote...
thought I would share this Spoiler:
Not sure about the front, but the rear is easily given away by the jiggle.
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Nyara❤ wrote...
Bah, just watch the polls, data and stuff from ONU. Asian and U.S national pedagogy documents also have some interesting things on them (and there are a lot of data available on most governments websites).Nah, i am not going to look for those, because it is pretty much always a waste of time when people ask others to go look for studies that supposedly prove them right, because the studies or research don't exist. Anybody can pull figures out of their pretty little butts at any time, but if you don't have anything to actually show for it, why bother.
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Foreground wrote...
xhimitsu wrote...
thought I would share this Spoiler:
Not sure about the front, but the rear is easily given away by the jiggle.
but rly few stopped her or cat called her?
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xhimitsu wrote...
Foreground wrote...
xhimitsu wrote...
thought I would share this Spoiler:
Not sure about the front, but the rear is easily given away by the jiggle.
but rly few stopped her or cat called her?
The video wasn't focusing about it. It's a group who does different stuff like that with amazing body painting. So even if it happened, they just removed it to focus more on how people doesn't notice she's pantless (even the seller!).
Just like that, the dudes who did the original video doesn't focus on feminism, neither, they are a group who makes original videos that they know will be massively popular, in pretty creative ways. It looks like they were employed by an anti-discrimination institution this time (and in their article, they focus more on racism, anyway).
Anyway, they have prove to be pretty trustworthiers before, so it's likely truth that they were 10 hours doing so (with about sightly more than 100 episodes). And, they most likely tried the experiment more than a single time until getting a high number. Anyway, even with 110 random greets/cat calls in 10 hours, you got one by each six minutes (and if you're beautiful, and looking hot, and on the center of the city, and usually getting cat called by mid-low class people).
As for personal experience, I got cat-called/random weird greet about each 40 minutes . Varying from one each 20 minutes to one each two hours, it depends on the hour, what I'm wearing and so. When I exit with a friend (she's really hot), she gets cat-called about each 15-20 minutes. When I exit with a men, group of 3 or more, or my mom, I don't get cat-called. Of course this's just in a dense part of the city, on the outskirts or outside the city (and streets) it almost never happens.
Yes, it makes me feel uncomfortable. My friend is even sightly traumatized because she's constantly feeling like a "sex toy" (though it's for a lot more of things like street groping, some assaults when trying to make friends and so). I don't mind too much the guys on specific, I don't think most of them are evil intentioned, but they must understand that they aren't the unique doing so, and adding, adding and adding is the problem.
Nonetheless, I think it comes more about education rather than sexism. An educated person will not disturb random strangers on the street (aside spam), just as simple as that. Of course the thing that it only happens to girls rather than both genders is sexism, but the solution is quite straightforward to be related to feminism (minimal etiquette).
For example most of the cat-call you seem here comes from people we locally call "flaite", or somewhat translated as "poorly educated, rude and low or mid-low class person" (yeah, it's the nearest thing I can think of). You can easily recognize flaites because they talk in a quite special (and highly rude) way, usually hard to clearly understand, lol.
Note: The thing is, the people who cat-call strangers in the street are rude and with lack of etiquette, thus weirdos. It isn't a sexism issue because: even without sexism, they would continue doing so, with the difference that girls would do so, too. Solution? Improve the society's education and social respect.
And... yeah, that job is pretty much done on developed countries, each one (though I must note with different quality each one). Then, why keeps happening on some parts of some of them? Disparity produced by racism (like on Australia or Japan), corruption (like on Greek or Italy), recent immigration (like on U.S or Germany) and other factors. Some countries just lack relevant disparity (like Canada or Finland), thus not having the issue anywhere. There's some stuff about density that directly comes with frequency, too, but bleh.