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Most builds I see for AM usually aren't battlefury. I see bashers a lot more. I use it myself.
You do extra damage if the target has mana available to burn. The basher itself grants 30, on stun gives 25 more. You get 6 str out of it rather than 0 for BF. Vlads will provide you with atk/def/life steal. Basher also cost less.
Usually when a AM gets the basher, game is usually over. Even w/o Butterfly, his attack speed is high enough to rape your mana and your health.
I like to counter AM with plenty of stuns. I remember a case where I was tiny, hurled Slardar at AM. Stun, I come and stun, bam Dead.
You do extra damage if the target has mana available to burn. The basher itself grants 30, on stun gives 25 more. You get 6 str out of it rather than 0 for BF. Vlads will provide you with atk/def/life steal. Basher also cost less.
Usually when a AM gets the basher, game is usually over. Even w/o Butterfly, his attack speed is high enough to rape your mana and your health.
I like to counter AM with plenty of stuns. I remember a case where I was tiny, hurled Slardar at AM. Stun, I come and stun, bam Dead.
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For any melee battle type, Vlad is usually the first item in my mind. For Magina, the guy is a REAL softy but is fitted to be aggressive, Thanks to his blink. due to this, Vanguard is usually the one alternative... of course, there's always the "poorman's shield" in case you're low on budget :)... LOL
Also, the moment Magina holds a BF, people tend to watch out coz that's a sign of a dangerous individual...
Also, does Magina's manabreak deal damage equal to the mana it burns?
Also, the moment Magina holds a BF, people tend to watch out coz that's a sign of a dangerous individual...
Also, does Magina's manabreak deal damage equal to the mana it burns?
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rober2 wrote...
For any melee battle type, Vlad is usually the first item in my mind. For Magina, the guy is a REAL softy but is fitted to be aggressive, Thanks to his blink. due to this, Vanguard is usually the one alternative... of course, there's always the "poorman's shield" in case you're low on budget :)... LOLAlso, the moment Magina holds a BF, people tend to watch out coz that's a sign of a dangerous individual...
Also, does Magina's manabreak deal damage equal to the mana it burns?
yup manabreak damage = mana burned... and IIRC his ulti becmae AoE... so I'd take Battle fury over basher... another thing about basher is that it has a 2 sec cooldown... not cool
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rober2 wrote...
For any melee battle type, Vlad is usually the first item in my mind. For Magina, the guy is a REAL softy but is fitted to be aggressive, Thanks to his blink. due to this, Vanguard is usually the one alternative... of course, there's always the "poorman's shield" in case you're low on budget :)... LOLAlso, the moment Magina holds a BF, people tend to watch out coz that's a sign of a dangerous individual...
Also, does Magina's manabreak deal damage equal to the mana it burns?
yes it does magic damage equal to the mana he burns
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eternalslumber1234 wrote...
rober2 wrote...
For any melee battle type, Vlad is usually the first item in my mind. For Magina, the guy is a REAL softy but is fitted to be aggressive, Thanks to his blink. due to this, Vanguard is usually the one alternative... of course, there's always the "poorman's shield" in case you're low on budget :)... LOLAlso, the moment Magina holds a BF, people tend to watch out coz that's a sign of a dangerous individual...
Also, does Magina's manabreak deal damage equal to the mana it burns?
yes it does magic damage equal to the mana he burns
MAGIC damage? So then if the target is impervious to magic or has magic resistance, will the damage lessen? And if te damage lessens, will the mana burned lessen too?
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rober2 wrote...
eternalslumber1234 wrote...
rober2 wrote...
For any melee battle type, Vlad is usually the first item in my mind. For Magina, the guy is a REAL softy but is fitted to be aggressive, Thanks to his blink. due to this, Vanguard is usually the one alternative... of course, there's always the "poorman's shield" in case you're low on budget :)... LOLAlso, the moment Magina holds a BF, people tend to watch out coz that's a sign of a dangerous individual...
Also, does Magina's manabreak deal damage equal to the mana it burns?
yes it does magic damage equal to the mana he burns
MAGIC damage? So then if the target is impervious to magic or has magic resistance, will the damage lessen? And if te damage lessens, will the mana burned lessen too?
no, if it says you burn 32 mana, you burn 32 mana but the damage will reduce/nullified with magic reduction/magic immunity
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eternalslumber1234 wrote...
rober2 wrote...
eternalslumber1234 wrote...
rober2 wrote...
For any melee battle type, Vlad is usually the first item in my mind. For Magina, the guy is a REAL softy but is fitted to be aggressive, Thanks to his blink. due to this, Vanguard is usually the one alternative... of course, there's always the "poorman's shield" in case you're low on budget :)... LOLAlso, the moment Magina holds a BF, people tend to watch out coz that's a sign of a dangerous individual...
Also, does Magina's manabreak deal damage equal to the mana it burns?
yes it does magic damage equal to the mana he burns
MAGIC damage? So then if the target is impervious to magic or has magic resistance, will the damage lessen? And if te damage lessens, will the mana burned lessen too?
no, if it says you burn 32 mana, you burn 32 mana but the damage will reduce/nullified with magic reduction/magic immunity
Then Pipe or BKB would wok wonders against Magina.
Still, the guy's a major pain for those who value mana. and a LETHAL BOMB for those who have a big hole in their mana pool.
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EmiyaKiritsugu wrote...
why not do the opposite with half of your enemies' life?i call in necrolyte!
haha!
please don't remind me how much I hate necrolyte in dota... spam death pulse and your preety much set for the game... all you need is man regen items and meka...
gahhh I really hate necrolyte *rages and rants for about an hour*
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Symeria wrote...
EmiyaKiritsugu wrote...
why not do the opposite with half of your enemies' life?i call in necrolyte!
haha!
please don't remind me how much I hate necrolyte in dota... spam death pulse and your preety much set for the game... all you need is man regen items and meka...
gahhh I really hate necrolyte *rages and rants for about an hour*
necro is a bitchy hero to fight :O, if he gets a agha and dagon and you're pretty much screwed :(
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eternalslumber1234 wrote...
Symeria wrote...
EmiyaKiritsugu wrote...
why not do the opposite with half of your enemies' life?i call in necrolyte!
haha!
please don't remind me how much I hate necrolyte in dota... spam death pulse and your preety much set for the game... all you need is man regen items and meka...
gahhh I really hate necrolyte *rages and rants for about an hour*
necro is a bitchy hero to fight :O, if he gets a agha and dagon and you're pretty much screwed :(
he get's meka, bloodstone and he's an almost unkillable tank... though I rarely see necrolyte with dagon anymore...
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al_shadowlune wrote...
nowadays i get huskar + necrolyte put em both on aghanim's scepters boom insta killI'd rather go for terrorblade.
Sunder+Reaper's=KILL
Just don't be stupid enough to sunder him WHEN YOUR HP IS LOWER!!!
...and I don't really hate necrolyte personally... IT'S JUST THAT THE GUY IS SO IMBA ONCE HE GETS A HOLD OF AN AGHA!!!
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Speaking of huskar, do you think a good counter is Viper?
Since huskar's health depletes as he uses skills, vipers skill takes advantage of that what do you guys think?
Since huskar's health depletes as he uses skills, vipers skill takes advantage of that what do you guys think?
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eternalslumber1234 wrote...
Speaking of huskar, do you think a good counter is Viper?Since huskar's health depletes as he uses skills, vipers skill takes advantage of that what do you guys think?
Doubt it. it's a fair game. viper has longer range (sort of) while huskar has high HP. And whenever Huskar's HP goes down, his damage increases.
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rober2 wrote...
eternalslumber1234 wrote...
Speaking of huskar, do you think a good counter is Viper?Since huskar's health depletes as he uses skills, vipers skill takes advantage of that what do you guys think?
Doubt it. it's a fair game. viper has longer range (sort of) while huskar has high HP. And whenever Huskar's HP goes down, his damage increases.
as well as attack speed and let's not orget his imba ulti when he get's close enough... also his flames stack to the point that it can deal 150+ damage per second...
I'd say huskar has an advantage if he get's close enough...
the best way to counter hukar is lion with dagon... a rounds of impale + normal + hex + finger + dagon should kill the bastard...
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Fallan
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Symeria wrote...
rober2 wrote...
eternalslumber1234 wrote...
Speaking of huskar, do you think a good counter is Viper?Since huskar's health depletes as he uses skills, vipers skill takes advantage of that what do you guys think?
Doubt it. it's a fair game. viper has longer range (sort of) while huskar has high HP. And whenever Huskar's HP goes down, his damage increases.
as well as attack speed and let's not orget his imba ulti when he get's close enough... also his flames stack to the point that it can deal 150+ damage per second...
I'd say huskar has an advantage if he get's close enough...
the best way to counter hukar is lion with dagon... a rounds of impale + normal + hex + finger + dagon should kill the bastard...
I use troll or razor against him... suck damg or perma bash.
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rober2 wrote...
eternalslumber1234 wrote...
Speaking of huskar, do you think a good counter is Viper?Since huskar's health depletes as he uses skills, vipers skill takes advantage of that what do you guys think?
Doubt it. it's a fair game. viper has longer range (sort of) while huskar has high HP. And whenever Huskar's HP goes down, his damage increases.
ya but Viper's damage increases also :P
@symeria:I can stack that much? hmmmm
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eternalslumber1234 wrote...
rober2 wrote...
eternalslumber1234 wrote...
Speaking of huskar, do you think a good counter is Viper?Since huskar's health depletes as he uses skills, vipers skill takes advantage of that what do you guys think?
Doubt it. it's a fair game. viper has longer range (sort of) while huskar has high HP. And whenever Huskar's HP goes down, his damage increases.
ya but Viper's damage increases also :P
@symeria:I can stack that much? hmmmm
frankly speaking viper will be dead before his +128 damage bonus kicks in if huskar can get close since it works in percentages... +128 need at lest 80% of max life missing...
huskar needs 49% of his max life missing to get the full bonus of his skill...
by that time viper probbly has +32 or +64 can't fully remember... and huskar would be trowing burning spears like crazy while healing himself with inner vitality(which works to his advantage since the lower the hp, the more and faster it heals)
and the spears 12 damage per sec stack cap has been removed... meaning 10 attacks from huskar and your taking 120 damage per second...
in that secnario even if you put viper strike in huskar would still win...
