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DotA Player's Thread (We love this game)
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eternalslumber1234 wrote...
The ideal team would obviously win in clashes, at ganks carries would have the advantage...and seeing as pro players tend to go with clashes. carries lose. so yathis
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rober2 wrote...
rokushou wrote...
yup,bitice is right.then we stuck till end without any chance of strike back because we were dominated right from very first minute. End kill stats is 22 for scourge(ideal) vs 6 Sentinel(all carry) Oh yeah, anyone had play Barathrum VS Rhasta one on one? Who do you think will win? i'd play it 3 times and Rhasta (me) always win, ehehehe
It's anybody's ball game, actually. If barathrum builds the proper items, rhasta is done for. And vice versa.
...and DAMN ns and nr is a serious option that would bring DotA players to the test >_<.l
if your playing in a computer shop with your friends, no swap is not a problem if you get what i'm saying :D
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rokushou wrote...
so, lemme ask you. you would prefer having an ideal team or all carry? last time i play all carry, i lose so dramatically
luna+troll+mirana+naga siren VS Rooftrellen+Lich+Witch Doctor+Bloodseeker
yeah, "all carry" team lose at,err,approximately 40min or 50min.
I wonder how you guys lost... Mirana + naga is an almost sure way to set up and escape while troll and luna can both decimate enemy ranks with ease... not ot mention if naga was there... even if there was a surprise og naga can easily offset that... the only real problem would be witch and lich but as long as troll and luna/mirana focus on both of they should not pose much of a problem...
and for the bara vs rastha depends on the player... if the bara player knows when to use his ulti then rastha is screwed... if rasthat can farm ginsoo ASAP then bara is screwed...
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Symeria wrote...
rokushou wrote...
so, lemme ask you. you would prefer having an ideal team or all carry? last time i play all carry, i lose so dramatically
luna+troll+mirana+naga siren VS Rooftrellen+Lich+Witch Doctor+Bloodseeker
yeah, "all carry" team lose at,err,approximately 40min or 50min.
I wonder how you guys lost... Mirana + naga is an almost sure way to set up and escape while troll and luna can both decimate enemy ranks with ease... not ot mention if naga was there... even if there was a surprise og naga can easily offset that... the only real problem would be witch and lich but as long as troll and luna/mirana focus on both of they should not pose much of a problem...
and for the bara vs rastha depends on the player... if the bara player knows when to use his ulti then rastha is screwed... if rasthat can farm ginsoo ASAP then bara is screwed...
ya i was thinking that, actually more of this isn't such a bad line up and can actually still win.
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eternalslumber1234 wrote...
Symeria wrote...
rokushou wrote...
so, lemme ask you. you would prefer having an ideal team or all carry? last time i play all carry, i lose so dramatically
luna+troll+mirana+naga siren VS Rooftrellen+Lich+Witch Doctor+Bloodseeker
yeah, "all carry" team lose at,err,approximately 40min or 50min.
I wonder how you guys lost... Mirana + naga is an almost sure way to set up and escape while troll and luna can both decimate enemy ranks with ease... not ot mention if naga was there... even if there was a surprise og naga can easily offset that... the only real problem would be witch and lich but as long as troll and luna/mirana focus on both of they should not pose much of a problem...
and for the bara vs rastha depends on the player... if the bara player knows when to use his ulti then rastha is screwed... if rasthat can farm ginsoo ASAP then bara is screwed...
ya i was thinking that, actually more of this isn't such a bad line up and can actually still win.
entangle + chain frost
i see why you would lose
serpent wards in the middle of that while BS chases any stragglers
haha thats probably NOT how it went lulz
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EmiyaKiritsugu wrote...
Spoiler:
As I said After OG, naga uses ulti, that's a 6-8 second ceasefire... if any heroes din't get affected by sleep, naga can use mirror image to dispel og and kill hero so that effectively removes trent, chain frost can also be countered by naga as his illusions can take up some bounces...
and witch doctor dose not use serpent wards... that's shadow shaman's ulti... witch doctor's ward is death ward and one stun from mirana or luna will stop it... the only way thir combo will work is if blood uses bloodrage on naga to silence her then proceed but that's where mirana should come in with ulti...
all holes are covered by that team and you have some good synergies there... I if you lost then you were really out of luck...
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Maybe they lost BECAUSE of luck. they somehow screwed up (no offense, but this usually happens to us players, right?) and got the enemy beefed up with money and items.
It's a common thing. If the enemy gets ahead, you need to make up for it. otherwise, the game can turn on you.. unless you have late-game heroes... in this case...
It's a common thing. If the enemy gets ahead, you need to make up for it. otherwise, the game can turn on you.. unless you have late-game heroes... in this case...
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rober2 wrote...
Maybe they lost BECAUSE of luck. they somehow screwed up (no offense, but this usually happens to us players, right?) and got the enemy beefed up with money and items.It's a common thing. If the enemy gets ahead, you need to make up for it. otherwise, the game can turn on you.. unless you have late-game heroes... in this case...
ya luck can play a large part in these games :P
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Nerubian Weaver is easy to use but as not as killer like Troll Warlord
i love using Nerubian Weaver since it can harass the opponent in early level and the time lapse quite useful too
i love using Nerubian Weaver since it can harass the opponent in early level and the time lapse quite useful too
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Symeria wrote...
EmiyaKiritsugu wrote...
Spoiler:
As I said After OG, naga uses ulti, that's a 6-8 second ceasefire... if any heroes din't get affected by sleep, naga can use mirror image to dispel og and kill hero so that effectively removes trent, chain frost can also be countered by naga as his illusions can take up some bounces...
and witch doctor dose not use serpent wards... that's shadow shaman's ulti... witch doctor's ward is death ward and one stun from mirana or luna will stop it... the only way thir combo will work is if blood uses bloodrage on naga to silence her then proceed but that's where mirana should come in with ulti...
all holes are covered by that team and you have some good synergies there... I if you lost then you were really out of luck...
i am the one who use naga siren, and I REALLY SUCK at USING ANY AGI HEROES!!!
well, at last minutes, we can do some comeback when it comes to big war because we can synchronize a bit and our combo could be done very well, but of course, because of big difference of item and level (too late for doing comeback), we lose the game. In the end, i can get only SnY,vladimir, Ptreads, and 3 wraith band.
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rokushou wrote...
Symeria wrote...
EmiyaKiritsugu wrote...
Spoiler:
As I said After OG, naga uses ulti, that's a 6-8 second ceasefire... if any heroes din't get affected by sleep, naga can use mirror image to dispel og and kill hero so that effectively removes trent, chain frost can also be countered by naga as his illusions can take up some bounces...
and witch doctor dose not use serpent wards... that's shadow shaman's ulti... witch doctor's ward is death ward and one stun from mirana or luna will stop it... the only way thir combo will work is if blood uses bloodrage on naga to silence her then proceed but that's where mirana should come in with ulti...
all holes are covered by that team and you have some good synergies there... I if you lost then you were really out of luck...
i am the one who use naga siren, and I REALLY SUCK at USING ANY AGI HEROES!!!
well, at last minutes, we can do some comeback when it comes to big war because we can synchronize a bit and our combo could be done very well, but of course, because of big difference of item and level (too late for doing comeback), we lose the game. In the end, i can get only SnY,vladimir, Ptreads, and 3 wraith band.
That explains a lot... you guys just really ran out of luck.. if you managed to get your combo earlier then you may have won... still SnY, vlad, Pthreads is a good farm...
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Symeria wrote...
rokushou wrote...
Symeria wrote...
EmiyaKiritsugu wrote...
Spoiler:
As I said After OG, naga uses ulti, that's a 6-8 second ceasefire... if any heroes din't get affected by sleep, naga can use mirror image to dispel og and kill hero so that effectively removes trent, chain frost can also be countered by naga as his illusions can take up some bounces...
and witch doctor dose not use serpent wards... that's shadow shaman's ulti... witch doctor's ward is death ward and one stun from mirana or luna will stop it... the only way thir combo will work is if blood uses bloodrage on naga to silence her then proceed but that's where mirana should come in with ulti...
all holes are covered by that team and you have some good synergies there... I if you lost then you were really out of luck...
i am the one who use naga siren, and I REALLY SUCK at USING ANY AGI HEROES!!!
well, at last minutes, we can do some comeback when it comes to big war because we can synchronize a bit and our combo could be done very well, but of course, because of big difference of item and level (too late for doing comeback), we lose the game. In the end, i can get only SnY,vladimir, Ptreads, and 3 wraith band.
That explains a lot... you guys just really ran out of luck.. if you managed to get your combo earlier then you may have won... still SnY, vlad, Pthreads is a good farm...
personally i like getting BattleFury for her. hmmm naga siren huh?, think i'll try her tomorrow/thursday
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It's not like when you fighting a newbies, guys. Well, as far as i can see, their combat capability is just like real Pro gamer. oh yeah, that time i play through Battle.net and i'm not in my team. meanwhile, they seems to be a clan, so, no wonder if their teamwork is done perfectly.
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eternalslumber1234 wrote...
Symeria wrote...
rokushou wrote...
Symeria wrote...
EmiyaKiritsugu wrote...
Spoiler:
As I said After OG, naga uses ulti, that's a 6-8 second ceasefire... if any heroes din't get affected by sleep, naga can use mirror image to dispel og and kill hero so that effectively removes trent, chain frost can also be countered by naga as his illusions can take up some bounces...
and witch doctor dose not use serpent wards... that's shadow shaman's ulti... witch doctor's ward is death ward and one stun from mirana or luna will stop it... the only way thir combo will work is if blood uses bloodrage on naga to silence her then proceed but that's where mirana should come in with ulti...
all holes are covered by that team and you have some good synergies there... I if you lost then you were really out of luck...
i am the one who use naga siren, and I REALLY SUCK at USING ANY AGI HEROES!!!
well, at last minutes, we can do some comeback when it comes to big war because we can synchronize a bit and our combo could be done very well, but of course, because of big difference of item and level (too late for doing comeback), we lose the game. In the end, i can get only SnY,vladimir, Ptreads, and 3 wraith band.
That explains a lot... you guys just really ran out of luck.. if you managed to get your combo earlier then you may have won... still SnY, vlad, Pthreads is a good farm...
personally i like getting BattleFury for her. hmmm naga siren huh?, think i'll try her tomorrow/thursday
i would suggest you to use Black king bar or Khadgar's Pipe since lich's ulti deals huge damage also to avoid Overgrowth. actually you can cast spell even if you're entangled. so use Siren's ulti to put em sleep, after that focus on lich first. dont let him cast chain frost
what you lack is Str hero. a complete team should have, at least one Str hero to tank damages while giving the others chance to attack.
if you play Late Game, troll and luna should demolish em all but since the enemies are in advantage on early level.. well just keep avoiding em until you're prepared
anyway, Troll is the strongest Agi hero. Satanic and Butterfly will do the job
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サカ゠wrote...
what you lack is Str hero. a complete team should have, at least one Str hero to tank damages while giving the others chance to attack.
Spoiler:
yeah,of only there's one STR like Leviathan, maybe it can be used to turn the tide
サカ゠wrote...
anyway, Troll is the strongest Agi hero. Satanic and Butterfly will do the job
Agreed. that one hero is a walking god of death if it can get boot, satanic,2 butterfly, and lothar's edge.
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rokushou wrote...
サカ゠wrote...
[quote="サカã‚"]
anyway, Troll is the strongest Agi hero. Satanic and Butterfly will do the job
Agreed. that one hero is a walking god of death if it can get boot, satanic,2 butterfly, and lothar's edge.
thats if troll farms right and its a prolonged game
otherwise its gank/gank/gank or early dead midgame
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EmiyaKiritsugu wrote...
rokushou wrote...
サカ゠wrote...
[quote="サカã‚"]
anyway, Troll is the strongest Agi hero. Satanic and Butterfly will do the job
Agreed. that one hero is a walking god of death if it can get boot, satanic,2 butterfly, and lothar's edge.
thats if troll farms right and its a prolonged game
otherwise its gank/gank/gank or early dead midgame
If the enemy knows any better, they won't let troll even breath. That guy is a serious threat an ANY late game. ANY!!! the only way to win against a team having a troll is getting the troll to turn into a feeder; hunt hunt hunt. If the troll gets a lothars... good luck...
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well that's where troll's allies should come in if they notice the enemies are ganking him like crazy... if they don't give a care do one thing that's a guarantied way to get lothars... Neutrals... the moment they notice your gone and start looking for you you would have been able to farm quite a bit...
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but i've seen once that magina can beat troll easily if he can farm cranium, 2 butterfly, manta, Ptreads, vlad, and, errr... MKB. Err, i don't know other heroes that can beat troll, well because i'm not agi user...