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troll killers...
1.) nerubian weaver
2.) faceless void
3.) Axe
4.) mortred
5.) naga siren
6.) phantom lancer
7.) nerubian assasin
8.) Lion(if he gets the jump on troll)
9.) Rastha(If he get's the jump on troll)
10.) meepo
well those are my top 10 troll killers...
1.) nerubian weaver
2.) faceless void
3.) Axe
4.) mortred
5.) naga siren
6.) phantom lancer
7.) nerubian assasin
8.) Lion(if he gets the jump on troll)
9.) Rastha(If he get's the jump on troll)
10.) meepo
well those are my top 10 troll killers...
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Waw! lemme copy-pate this ^_^... how did nerubian assassin end up as a counter-measure for troll?
Edit: oh wait, it's weaver... again, how did that guy end up as a counter-measure for troll?
Edit: oh wait, it's weaver... again, how did that guy end up as a counter-measure for troll?
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rober2 wrote...
Waw! lemme copy-pate this ^_^... how did nerubian assassin end up as a counter-measure for troll?Edit: oh wait, it's weaver... again, how did that guy end up as a counter-measure for troll?
Nerubian weaver
1.) sukuchi to his back then attack like crazy
2.) run away if troll get's close while waiting for sukuchi cd
3.) repeat
4.) if bash connects and Hp get's low use time lapse
5.) repeat
seriously a well fed weaver can take down anyone
nerubian assasin
1.) impale
2.) mana burn
3.) fight him with normals
4.) laugh at him for killing himself with spiked carapace
5.) use vendetta combo if necessary
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Symeria wrote...
rober2 wrote...
Waw! lemme copy-pate this ^_^... how did nerubian assassin end up as a counter-measure for troll?Edit: oh wait, it's weaver... again, how did that guy end up as a counter-measure for troll?
Nerubian weaver
1.) sukuchi to his back then attack like crazy
2.) run away if troll get's close while waiting for sukuchi cd
3.) repeat
4.) if bash connects and Hp get's low use time lapse
5.) repeat
seriously a well fed weaver can take down anyone
nerubian assasin
1.) impale
2.) mana burn
3.) fight him with normals
4.) laugh at him for killing himself with spiked carapace
5.) use vendetta combo if necessary
i think blademail will stack on nerub's spiked carapace ^^
so spiked carapace + blademail = Fried troll
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skoodlez wrote...
Symeria wrote...
rober2 wrote...
Waw! lemme copy-pate this ^_^... how did nerubian assassin end up as a counter-measure for troll?Edit: oh wait, it's weaver... again, how did that guy end up as a counter-measure for troll?
Nerubian weaver
1.) sukuchi to his back then attack like crazy
2.) run away if troll get's close while waiting for sukuchi cd
3.) repeat
4.) if bash connects and Hp get's low use time lapse
5.) repeat
seriously a well fed weaver can take down anyone
nerubian assasin
1.) impale
2.) mana burn
3.) fight him with normals
4.) laugh at him for killing himself with spiked carapace
5.) use vendetta combo if necessary
i think blademail will stack on nerub's spiked carapace ^^
so spiked carapace + blademail = Fried troll
true. heck blackmail... I mean blademail is an enemy's... errr... enemy. darn thing is a serious table-turner... haven't I said this before?
anyways, both of those nerubs can take on Troll IF Troll doesn't get fed AND if enither nerubs get fed...
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Weaver can bring down a fed troll underfed.. all he needs is ether MKB or Burizza/Cristalis... one of those id enough to kill
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Symeria wrote...
Weaver can bring down a fed troll underfed.. all he needs is ether MKB or Burizza/Cristalis... one of those id enough to killyup, use the mkb's truestrike and you'll never miss. very effective to beat troll
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bitice wrote...
If troll can stun weaver all the time with melee strike,weaver will lose^^What bitice said. Troll's bash is exactly what I fear the most; not to mention the damage and ridiculous speed. Bara, Slardar, and void are the only possible counters for that troll... In my opinion.
...AND DUDES! THE REP SYSTEM IS BACK! REP ME PLS!!!
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rober2 wrote...
bitice wrote...
If troll can stun weaver all the time with melee strike,weaver will lose^^What bitice said. Troll's bash is exactly what I fear the most; not to mention the damage and ridiculous speed. Bara, Slardar, and void are the only possible counters for that troll... In my opinion.
...AND DUDES! THE REP SYSTEM IS BACK! REP ME PLS!!!
that's a Big If and if troll manages to get close and bash before weaver uses sukuchi... I've killed and escaped from a rampaging troll with lothars dozens of times when his ulti lasted 30 seconds... 8 seconds is nothing compared to that... I always find a small opening to use time lapse and sukuchi whenever troll is about to kill me, then I kill him...
besides troll will say uncle if you get a germinate crit(both attacks of germinate attack crits)...
as for the rep... well...
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Symeria wrote...
rober2 wrote...
bitice wrote...
If troll can stun weaver all the time with melee strike,weaver will lose^^What bitice said. Troll's bash is exactly what I fear the most; not to mention the damage and ridiculous speed. Bara, Slardar, and void are the only possible counters for that troll... In my opinion.
...AND DUDES! THE REP SYSTEM IS BACK! REP ME PLS!!!
that's a Big If and if troll manages to get close and bash before weaver uses sukuchi... I've killed and escaped from a rampaging troll with lothars dozens of times when his ulti lasted 30 seconds... 8 seconds is nothing compared to that... I always find a small opening to use time lapse and sukuchi whenever troll is about to kill me, then I kill him...
besides troll will say uncle if you get a germinate crit(both attacks of germinate attack crits)...
as for the rep... well...
So you're saying that if an attack of weaver crits, the germinate will too?
AND C'MON! REP MEEE!!!
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nope... not saying that.. im saying that weavers germinate has crit chance too... basically any attack effect you have is also in effect in germinate attack...
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Symeria wrote...
nope... not saying that.. im saying that weavers germinate has crit chance too... basically any attack effect you have is also in effect in germinate attack...i love germinate :D, passive double damage XD add a crit and watch their health go down fast
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as Symeria said,germinate has crit chance.however, if troll has satanic,he can easily steal life by his extra attack speed and extra life steal rate of santan besides he can change into range strike form to fight with weaver.life steal items is much more important in 1v1 battle.unfortunately if weaver use life steal items,his germinate is unavailable= =
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bitice wrote...
as Symeria said,germinate has crit chance.however, if troll has satanic,he can easily steal life by his extra attack speed and extra life steal rate of santan besides he can change into range strike form to fight with weaver.life steal items is much more important in 1v1 battle.unfortunately if weaver use life steal items,his germinate is unavailable= =you can opt for skadhi, slows the incoming enemy as well as escaping enemies
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troll has range attack..so,he needn't stay close to weaver~and skadi is not a good item for 1v1 battle,right?
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bitice wrote...
troll has range attack..so,he needn't stay close to weaver~and skadi is not a good item for 1v1 battle,right?troll is only dangerous with bash, otherwise weaver has the advantage with invi and time lapse and double attack. who said skadhi isnt a good item for a 1v1?, equip that on a range and then use that against a melee hero and watch as he struggles to escapes....
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actually weaver can lifesteal... Germinate will only override the orb effect if it's not in cooldown... so in the 2.5 seconds that germinate Cd's weaver can lifesteal... same goes for skadi and other orb items...
as for the troll in range argument... trolls damage output, attack speed, move speed and armor is lower in range tan in melee so weaver has the advantage... if troll uses battle trance it's a simple thing to use sukuchi in burn away 1/2 of the duration...
if troll has satanic I just bid my time and wait till duration is over... troll can't catch up to weaver in terms of running away...
as for the troll in range argument... trolls damage output, attack speed, move speed and armor is lower in range tan in melee so weaver has the advantage... if troll uses battle trance it's a simple thing to use sukuchi in burn away 1/2 of the duration...
if troll has satanic I just bid my time and wait till duration is over... troll can't catch up to weaver in terms of running away...