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FFXIII straight to shit
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Sad, i was waiting this game, and its really awesome to see how a good videogame series can be in the top some years and suddenly, a big fall to reach this, really really sad.
BTW, i said it before, but my god why i have the same feelin with the new game of Fate, Fate/Extra.
BTW, i said it before, but my god why i have the same feelin with the new game of Fate, Fate/Extra.
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Glad I didnt pre-order it then. I think ill give this bad boy a miss! :)
My good buddy'll probably try to bullshit me when he makes the mistake of buying this Turkey to buy it myself, NO SALE amigo! :lol:
Glad I didnt...
My good buddy'll probably try to bullshit me when he makes the mistake of buying this Turkey to buy it myself, NO SALE amigo! :lol:
Glad I didnt...
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Nashrakh wrote...
More like, they don't really care about quality games anymore because the games will be bought anyway.That seems to be the truth. Man, I still can't believe how lazy they got, after having made some of the best RPGs ever (FFX being my favorite RPG of all).
HokutoCorpse wrote...
Imo we are expecting to much. Yes the earlier FF were great. But this is a new generation. Also theres versus 13 so maybe they expected this to happen.New generation doesn't mean people don't give a shit anymore. If anything, people are becoming more demanding.
HokutoCorpse wrote...
Can anyone name a good rpg that has came out lately thats just as great as the earlier games on the snes,ps1 and ps2?The persona series instantly comes to mind, as it's been greatly one-uping their predecessors.
HokutoCorpse wrote...
Also I read on some of the video comments that people that imported the game says he is stretching the cons. And that most of the cons are minor if anything. Like the part where he said all you have to do is press o. His characters had to be maxed to do that kind of damage.I doubt he got it that far. And even if he did, you couldn't get away with that in any of the previous Final Fantasys. You had to at least use apropriate spells. But not anymore. This is just sad man.
ps: Me adressing your points separately is not meant to sound hostile, just to make it simpler.
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Kuroneko1/2 wrote...
(FFX being my favorite RPG of all).The one where you can't skip cutscenes/tutorials, endure bad voice acting and kill the final boss in one hit?
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Kuroneko1/2 wrote...
Nashrakh wrote...
More like, they don't really care about quality games anymore because the games will be bought anyway.That seems to be the truth. Man, I still can't believe how lazy they got, after having made some of the best RPGs ever (FFX being my favorite RPG of all).
HokutoCorpse wrote...
Imo we are expecting to much. Yes the earlier FF were great. But this is a new generation. Also theres versus 13 so maybe they expected this to happen.New generation doesn't mean people don't give a shit anymore. If anything, people are becoming more demanding.
HokutoCorpse wrote...
Can anyone name a good rpg that has came out lately thats just as great as the earlier games on the snes,ps1 and ps2?The persona series instantly comes to mind, as it's been greatly one-uping their predecessors.
HokutoCorpse wrote...
Also I read on some of the video comments that people that imported the game says he is stretching the cons. And that most of the cons are minor if anything. Like the part where he said all you have to do is press o. His characters had to be maxed to do that kind of damage.I doubt he got it that far. And even if he did, you couldn't get away with that in any of the previous Final Fantasys. You had to at least use apropriate spells. But not anymore. This is just sad man.
ps: Me adressing your points separately is not meant to sound hostile, just to make it simpler.
Hmm never played persona. But that proves my point sorta. Theres barely any games you can compare with those.
And we don't know if you can easily get away with that in FF 13. He did 13k with a summon per hit. thats hard to believe. I understand that you are breaking it down to make it simpler. Now that controlling one character at a time. That sounds ok to me. Rather control 3 but 1 is fine. Kinda reminds me of Tales of Vesperia since I mainly used Yuri and let the others do whatever they want.
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HokutoCorpse wrote...
Hmm never played persona.
maybe you should play them since they're actually good games unlike final fantasy.
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Jeff Goldblum Fan wrote...
HokutoCorpse wrote...
Hmm never played persona.
maybe you should play them since they're actually good games unlike final fantasy.
Which final fantasy have you played? Also which systems are they on since I only have a ps3 and a nitendo ds
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lazyasschillypepper wrote...
Kuroneko1/2 wrote...
(FFX being my favorite RPG of all).The one where you can't skip cutscenes/tutorials, endure bad voice acting and kill the final boss in one hit?
-The cutscenes were generally interesting and good, and only became boring if you were playing the game through a second or third time
-The voice acting was bad? Sometimes the characters lookd emotionless, but the counterbalanced that well in other parts
-The "final boss" was not yu-yevon. You can't even die during that fight. The real last boss was Braska's final aeon.
Lazy, I thought you were better than this.
ps: Crap, I accidentaly deleted my reply to hokuto. I'll do it in the afternoon, gotta run now.
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Kuroneko1/2 wrote...
-The cutscenes were generally interesting and good,
LOL.
Kuroneko1/2 wrote...
and only became boring if you were playing the game through a second or third timeThus reducing greatly replay value. Sitting through the same cutscene again is annoying. People want to play, but the game won't let you until it's all said and done.
Kuroneko1/2 wrote...
-The voice acting was bad? Sometimes the characters lookd emotionless, but the counterbalanced that well in other parts
Doesn't change the fact that it's bad.
Kuroneko1/2 wrote...
-The "final boss" was not yu-yevon. You can't even die during that fight. The real last boss was Braska's final aeon.Been years since, but I remember the last boss having 99999 hp. One hit, and he was dead. Then cue the end scene, credits, then a teaser of 10-2.
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HokutoCorpse wrote...
Jeff Goldblum Fan wrote...
HokutoCorpse wrote...
Hmm never played persona.
maybe you should play them since they're actually good games unlike final fantasy.
Which final fantasy have you played? Also which systems are they on since I only have a ps3 and a nitendo ds
ive played most of them, all except I think the first one
4 and 6 are the only good ones
and despite saying "persona", you should try any shin megami tensei game. Persona is a spinoff series of SMT. most are on PS2 (so you can play them if you have a BC ps3), Devil Survivor is on ds but it's not really like the other games. Strange Journey is coming out march 24th on DS, and its a regular SMT game, so you could look into that.
edit: X-2 was seriously better than X because it didn't take all the stupid bullshit seriously
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Jeff Goldblum Fan wrote...
HokutoCorpse wrote...
Jeff Goldblum Fan wrote...
HokutoCorpse wrote...
Hmm never played persona.
maybe you should play them since they're actually good games unlike final fantasy.
Which final fantasy have you played? Also which systems are they on since I only have a ps3 and a nitendo ds
ive played most of them, all except I think the first one
4 and 6 are the only good ones
and despite saying "persona", you should try any shin megami tensei game. Persona is a spinoff series of SMT. most are on PS2 (so you can play them if you have a BC ps3), Devil Survivor is on ds but it's not really like the other games. Strange Journey is coming out march 24th on DS, and its a regular SMT game, so you could look into that.
edit: X-2 was seriously better than X because it didn't take all the stupid bullshit seriously
Ill check it out. And X-2 reminded me of Charlies Angels
Also I just realized. Your calling FF 7,8,10 and tactics shit. Something is wrong there.
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I am gonna pick up a second copy of the game just because of this. Seriously though, this in no way has deterred me from purchasing my copy of FF13 at a midnight release. I am gonna enjoy this game no matter what. And to be honest this is a little more lame than I was expecting it to be, but it's still FF in glorious HD and I get to play it for hours on end. I take enjoyment from just that so mission accomplished for me.
FF13 Versus will be the better of the two and that's not just because I am hoping for it. The team behind Versus also did Kingdom Hearts so I have confidence in them.
FF13 Versus will be the better of the two and that's not just because I am hoping for it. The team behind Versus also did Kingdom Hearts so I have confidence in them.
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Animeholic wrote...
it's still FF in glorious HD and I get to play it for hours on end. A picture of a turd in amazing clarity!!!
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That's a terrible joke. FF is beautiful, why would you take a redeeming quality that I find about the game and make a play on words like that? If you didn't mean that as a direct insult on an aspect of the game that I liked and were just saying it because it was funny to you, no problem, but this is turning into a flame FF thread, though it might have been that from the beginning.
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The part I am most angry about is the mashing the circle button. MOST RAGE
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Fiero88Formula wrote...
Wow. Whatever happened to the really cool Final Fantasy shit like playing as a Paladin and flying around in airships and actually having an awesome story line? This game just really looks ridiculous. It's like there's a lot of movement on purpose just to confuse the hell out of you and make it look like stuff is happening. I stopped seriously playing these games a long time ago.
Final Fantasy IV fans unite!
Jeff Goldblum Fan wrote...
there are only two good Final Fantasy games anyway why are people surprisedBlasphemy! While IV and VI are my favorite FF games, II and V are also very enjoyable (especially if you play it on an emulator to fast forward through the grinding), and IX is great (for a 3D FF) if you prefer the original 2D games over the new crappy 3D ones.
While I haven't watched the video's or read/watched any other reviews yet it makes me happy to know that my cynicism was correct as far as FF XIII goes. After seeing that it was going to be similar to FF 12 in gameplay style I immediately checked out and stopped caring. Maybe I'll pick it up when I can get it for $20 or less, but hell I still haven't picked up 12 so that shows how big of a chance there is of me getting XIII. Fuck SE, they're getting worse as the years go on... soon enough I'm even going to stop caring about Dragon Quest... at least they finally brought back the class system in DQIX.
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lazyasschillypepper wrote...
endure bad voice actingI actually enjoyed Tidus'es voice actor very much, he was one of the best actors i've heard.
lazyasschillypepper wrote...
I remember the last boss having 99999 hpJecht 1st form 80000 2nd form 120000 *2hits to K.O.
Yu Yevon 99999.
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Animeholic wrote...
I am gonna pick up a second copy of the game just because of this. Seriously though, this in no way has deterred me from purchasing my copy of FF13 at a midnight release. I am gonna enjoy this game no matter what. And to be honest this is a little more lame than I was expecting it to be, but it's still FF in glorious HD and I get to play it for hours on end. I take enjoyment from just that so mission accomplished for me.Bro, how shallow are you? You will buy the game just because of the visuals and the name?
Animeholic wrote...
FF13 Versus will be the better of the two and that's not just because I am hoping for it. The team behind Versus also did Kingdom Hearts so I have confidence in them.I wouldn't keep my hopes too high if I were you. Don't get me wrong, I love Kingdom Hearts to death and I would love to have a similar type Final Fantasy game. But the way Square has been treating their games for the last few years is just insulting.
Jeff Goldblum Fan wrote...
edit: X-2 was seriously better than X because it didn't take all the stupid bullshit seriouslyWhat part of X-2 made it better than X? It felt like a punch in the face to me. :\
From the characters, to the non-linearity, to the story and the gameplay.
lazyasschillypepper wrote...
Kuroneko1/2 wrote...
and only became boring if you were playing the game through a second or third timeThus reducing greatly replay value. Sitting through the same cutscene again is annoying. People want to play, but the game won't let you until it's all said and done.
Greatly reducing replay value? Dude, X has tons of sidequests. You'll have so much to keep busy with you probably won't finish them all. The only reason you would replay the game would be for maybe some nostalgia times, or to get the stats and items right for the ultimate weapons and bosses.
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Kuroneko1/2 wrote...
Bro, how shallow are you? You will buy the game just because of the visuals and the name?And how exactly does that make me shallow? Because I don't hate the bad aspects of the game enough to wash over what I actually want from it? I was hyped for FF 13 because I love their stories and visuals, sorry if that seems shallow to you, but I always thought that was the main selling point to it.
In my opinion people were expecting too much from this game and to be fair to FF13 they were set back a year and a half, so pressure to turn out must have been intense. I have seen reviews for this game that range from 120/100 a score so amazing it laughs in the face of mathematics, to this guy's rage review where he bitches for 30 minutes.
Kuroneko1/2 wrote...
I wouldn't keep my hopes too high if I were you. Don't get me wrong, I love Kingdom Hearts to death and I would love to have a similar type Final Fantasy game. But the way Square has been treating their games for the last few years is just insulting.Nomura has never made a game that wasn't awesome in my opinion, so yeah I have a lot of faith in him. Everything from his promise of a Kingdom Hearts style combat system to bringing back the world map.
Kuroneko1/2 wrote...
What part of X-2 made it better than X? It felt like a punch in the face to me. :\I agree with this.