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Kira*Kira
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Hentanize wrote...
Now what i wanna say is that they should make a Harem ending and make everyone happy. Too bad this game is wanting to be realistic.
similar situation with Yume Miru Kusari
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Well a harem route will certainly ruin the, for me any way.Its perfect the way it is but in any game I always go for the childhood friends first also :D.The bond and relationship is more intriguing to watch.
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Hentanize wrote...
Now what i wanna say is that they should make a Harem ending and make everyone happy. Too bad this game is wanting to be realistic.
That would have made me rage really hard. Harem endings are cool and all when it's a hardcore ero game and there's no significant emotional attachment to any of the girls, but the girls here would have to break so much character as to render it worthless. I would really hate to see these girls, all of whom I really liked, to stoop to the level required for that.
Alternative solution that would probably appeal only to me:
I was really hoping that Murakami and Tonoya would hook up with the girls that Shinosuke didn't- and as such a 6 person orgy would be just as good as a herem scene, but wouldn't be terribly out of character... kinda like this scene from Honey Blonde:
https://www.fakku.net/viewmanga.php?id=2338
I say that I'm the only who would like that because apparently there are a lot of VN players who think girls moving on with their lives when the main character is unavailable is somehow blasphemous.
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Hentanize
rebaS
I was half serious about the harem ending, i'm well aware that it wouldn't fit KiraKira's scenary.
But Murakami and Tonoya hooking up with the remaining girls... I would hate it, i'd feel so jealous i'd stop playing. If it's for a one night Orgy, i won't say no as long as they don't go into a serious relationship
But Murakami and Tonoya hooking up with the remaining girls... I would hate it, i'd feel so jealous i'd stop playing. If it's for a one night Orgy, i won't say no as long as they don't go into a serious relationship
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You see, that, I don't get. Why should a girl turn into a nun just because her first love is unrequited? If the lead ended up alone and only the friends got some action, that'd be fucked up, but if the lead has a girlfriend, why not spread the love? If you like a girl, but you yourself are unavailable, would you really prefer seeing her alone vs seeing her with someone you know would treat her right?
If the friends were douchebags who didn't deserve hooking up with the girls in the first place, then sure. I would have hated seeing any of the Edelweiss friends hooking up with any of the respective girls, because while they're hilarious and played a great game role, they're idiots and wouldn't be believable in a girl wooing situation.
In Kirakira, however, the guy friends are awesome. I can't think of any reason why the girls would prefer Shinosuke over them, other than the fact that they spend more time with him.
That's kind of how a lot of High School cliques are- multiple people have some feelings for multiple people, and they end up dating in a first come, first served basis- based on whomever has the gall to make the initial approach. At least that's what my experience was.
On a semi related note- I'd really like to see an eroge with dual protagonists (like Ever17) where both guys had an opportunity to pick up some of the same girls, and some girls were exclusive to each respective guy.
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My feelings of jealousy stem less from the girls who aren't with me, and more from the guys who don't deserve the girls. School Days was without question the worst thing I've ever seen, and a large part of that was I hated seeing the biggest asshole in the world get rewarded for his douchebagery. Or take Soro No Iro, Mizo no Iro for example. I went and ruined one of the hottest OVA i've ever seen by watching it subbed. Now I can't stand it because I hate the dude with a passion.
If the friends were douchebags who didn't deserve hooking up with the girls in the first place, then sure. I would have hated seeing any of the Edelweiss friends hooking up with any of the respective girls, because while they're hilarious and played a great game role, they're idiots and wouldn't be believable in a girl wooing situation.
In Kirakira, however, the guy friends are awesome. I can't think of any reason why the girls would prefer Shinosuke over them, other than the fact that they spend more time with him.
That's kind of how a lot of High School cliques are- multiple people have some feelings for multiple people, and they end up dating in a first come, first served basis- based on whomever has the gall to make the initial approach. At least that's what my experience was.
On a semi related note- I'd really like to see an eroge with dual protagonists (like Ever17) where both guys had an opportunity to pick up some of the same girls, and some girls were exclusive to each respective guy.
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My feelings of jealousy stem less from the girls who aren't with me, and more from the guys who don't deserve the girls. School Days was without question the worst thing I've ever seen, and a large part of that was I hated seeing the biggest asshole in the world get rewarded for his douchebagery. Or take Soro No Iro, Mizo no Iro for example. I went and ruined one of the hottest OVA i've ever seen by watching it subbed. Now I can't stand it because I hate the dude with a passion.
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Hentanize
rebaS
Maybe since i am aware that any of the other girls could be my potential lover, i just don't wanna share with others. And i get your point too, but imo, in an eroge, since you're forced to spend like 15 hours with a girl, you just feel attached to her and cannot help but not wanting her to go out with someone else when you're on your second route.
That happens in anime as well. As an example: In the animated version of Valkyria Chronicles, WHAT A PAIN it was to see the female protagonist being flirted by the main character's best friend. And don't get me wrong that best friend was definitely not a douche, but the best "best friend" you could ever have.
That happens in anime as well. As an example: In the animated version of Valkyria Chronicles, WHAT A PAIN it was to see the female protagonist being flirted by the main character's best friend. And don't get me wrong that best friend was definitely not a douche, but the best "best friend" you could ever have.
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Hentanize wrote...
As an example: In the animated version of Valkyria Chronicles, WHAT A PAIN it was to see the female protagonist being flirted by the main character's best friend. And don't get me wrong that best friend was definitely not a douche, but the best "best friend" you could ever have.True, but at the same time, if Welkin already had a girlfriend, Alicia's clingyness would have just been annoying- and we probably would have hated her for not at least given the friend a chance.
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sifian_ wrote...
Edit:
My feelings of jealousy stem less from the girls who aren't with me, and more from the guys who don't deserve the girls. School Days was without question the worst thing I've ever seen, and a large part of that was I hated seeing the biggest asshole in the world get rewarded for his douchebagery. Or take Soro No Iro, Mizo no Iro for example. I went and ruined one of the hottest OVA i've ever seen by watching it subbed. Now I can't stand it because I hate the dude with a passion.
Kinda off topic question but ....Why do many people hate School Days?The protagonist on most cases.
Haven't played it and is on my list to play so I'm really curious.Can you state some facts to why you hate it to a minimal, to not spoil it much for me pls :D
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I really can't do justice to my hatred of that show without spoilers, so I've commented off some of the more plot heavy details.
1) It's just a bad anime with terrible pacing. I forced myself to keep watching because I figured something with as much reputation as it did must get better at some point- it never does.
2) Main character is a typical sub-average anime lead with no outstanding characteristics that would lead women to fall in love with him. But he still gets a girlfriend and is a real asshole. He's excessively sexually aggressive and get's overly upset when she doesn't respond well (he's trying to fondle her chest on the first date). He doesn't have the gall to break up with her so he just tries to ignore her, but still constantly sends her mixed messages.
3) The only likeable character in the entire anime is the lead's best friend.
1) It's just a bad anime with terrible pacing. I forced myself to keep watching because I figured something with as much reputation as it did must get better at some point- it never does.
2) Main character is a typical sub-average anime lead with no outstanding characteristics that would lead women to fall in love with him. But he still gets a girlfriend and is a real asshole. He's excessively sexually aggressive and get's overly upset when she doesn't respond well (he's trying to fondle her chest on the first date). He doesn't have the gall to break up with her so he just tries to ignore her, but still constantly sends her mixed messages.
Spoiler:
3) The only likeable character in the entire anime is the lead's best friend.
Spoiler:
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sifian_ wrote...
I really can't do justice to my hatred of that show without spoilers, so I've commented off some of the more plot heavy details.1) It's just a bad anime with terrible pacing. I forced myself to keep watching because I figured something with as much reputation as it did must get better at some point- it never does.
2) Main character is a typical sub-average anime lead with no outstanding characteristics that would lead women to fall in love with him. But he still gets a girlfriend and is a real asshole. He's excessively sexually aggressive and get's overly upset when she doesn't respond well (he's trying to fondle her chest on the first date). He doesn't have the gall to break up with her so he just tries to ignore her, but still constantly sends her mixed messages.
Spoiler:
3) The only likeable character in the entire anime is the lead's best friend.
Spoiler:
Right,right I think i know your point there.Just by reading here I'm feeling a little malice myself.....its sux but the reputation still intruiges me
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Hentanize
rebaS
"Kira Kira Curtain Call", a sequel to the original game has been fully translated.
I don't know about this one. Any thoughts about it?
http://vndb.org/v2123
I don't know about this one. Any thoughts about it?
http://vndb.org/v2123
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Hentanize wrote...
"Kira Kira Curtain Call", a sequel to the original game has been fully translated.I don't know about this one. Any thoughts about it?
Well, I bought and completed it already. I'm sad to say that the best thing about making this purchase is I feel less guilty about other MG games that I have no intention of ever buying.
The game has two parts.
The first features a dude who wants to form a band to show the world how awesome he is and to earn the love of the girl he likes. And he's a complete tool. He's excessively full of himself without anything to back up that confidence. He's not even an entertaining or amusing asshole, he just sucks. Furthermore, the girl he likes is the stereotypical shy girl without any substantial personality. I was really hoping for a crazy plot twist to come up and redeem everything, but it never happened.
Spoiler:
The second part was pretty good. It was about all the people in Happy Cycle Mania, and they got into a slump and how they got out of it. It constantly switches up who's playing the role of protagonist, and you get to see a lot of the people from the first game and what they're up to 5 years later. While entertaining, I do have one gripe...
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So yeah, mostly I feel shafted about having paid for only half a game.
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Curtain Call is worth playing through, but definitely pales in comparison to the original. For starters, it has only one route; what few decisions you make in game have absolutely no effect on the plot outside of changing one or two lines of dialogue. There is only 1 (decent quality) H-scene. Also, there are far fewer original songs for the game, and by and large they aren't as good as the songs from the original.
As was mentioned, the new main character is a talentless loudmouth whose only charm is his sheer bravado, although he actually grew on me and I ended up liking him. Otherwise the characters are generally less interesting than the characters from the first game, and your inability to influence the story makes it so that you can't explore the characters that you do find interesting further. There are *some* plot twists though, although none even come close to the plot twists in the original. It was generally well written enough to keep me interested for as long as it took to play through it. If I could travel back in time I wouldn't need to warn myself to not play it, but if this had been the original I wouldn't have been dying to play the sequel.
In short, Kira Kira Curtain Call is to Kira Kira as Edelweiss Eiden Fantasia is to Edelweiss, except that Curtain Call has *one* route whereas EEF had two, even though EEF was marketed as a fandisk and KKCC was marketed as a full game. Although, yes, Curtain Call's one route is a lot longer than EEF's two. Still not a particularly worthy successor, however.
And that's basically the size of it.
As was mentioned, the new main character is a talentless loudmouth whose only charm is his sheer bravado, although he actually grew on me and I ended up liking him. Otherwise the characters are generally less interesting than the characters from the first game, and your inability to influence the story makes it so that you can't explore the characters that you do find interesting further. There are *some* plot twists though, although none even come close to the plot twists in the original.
Spoiler:
In short, Kira Kira Curtain Call is to Kira Kira as Edelweiss Eiden Fantasia is to Edelweiss, except that Curtain Call has *one* route whereas EEF had two, even though EEF was marketed as a fandisk and KKCC was marketed as a full game. Although, yes, Curtain Call's one route is a lot longer than EEF's two. Still not a particularly worthy successor, however.
And that's basically the size of it.
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Hentanize wrote...
"Kira Kira Curtain Call", a sequel to the original game has been fully translated.I don't know about this one. Any thoughts about it?
http://vndb.org/v2123
KKCC failed from my expectation of the game.Ok one route if nc but come on!The story is so-so .How can this be a full game?EEF is better and that a fan-disk.
KKCC failed Kira*Kira for me anyway.
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Kaimax
Best Master-San
Golden Tip:
Never put your expectation on something too high, because it will hurt you when you fall down
Seriously every time you play a new VN or something, Reset your expectation to zero and don't try to compare it to something else.
Because you won't be able to see the "Individual beauty" of that VN, because it's overshadowed by something you like better.
Follow these tips and I promise you'll enjoy your VNs better.
Never put your expectation on something too high, because it will hurt you when you fall down
Seriously every time you play a new VN or something, Reset your expectation to zero and don't try to compare it to something else.
Because you won't be able to see the "Individual beauty" of that VN, because it's overshadowed by something you like better.
Follow these tips and I promise you'll enjoy your VNs better.
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darykk168 wrote...
Hentanize wrote...
"Kira Kira Curtain Call", a sequel to the original game has been fully translated.I don't know about this one. Any thoughts about it?
http://vndb.org/v2123
KKCC failed from my expectation of the game.Ok one route if nc but come on!The story is so-so .How can this be a full game?EEF is better and that a fan-disk.
KKCC failed Kira*Kira for me anyway.
Thats because KKCC is a fandisk, fandisks are just extras for the fans. They hardly get better.
@Kai
It's unavoidable that people expects to read good stuff, and wants to read good stuff, myself included. It's hard to eliminate that expectation, especially when ppl choose and pick out VNs that have a good history company/reviews, so that they can enjoy their time usage better.
But I do agree on not putting the expectations too high.
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Kaimax
Best Master-San
yeah321 wrote...
It's hard to eliminate that expectation, especially when ppl choose and pick out VNs that have a good history company/reviews, so that they can enjoy their time usage better.lol, this is easy solve.
Play like me
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Play something random and don't listen to reviews, you can't possibly have expectations. :P
(one of the causes I don't play "reviewed" or even recommended games)
That's why I can enjoy most VNs from all the VNs that I have played.
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Kaimax wrote...
Golden Tip:Never put your expectation on something too high, because it will hurt you when you fall down
Seriously every time you play a new VN or something, Reset your expectation to zero and don't try to compare it to something else.
Because you won't be able to see the "Individual beauty" of that VN, because it's overshadowed by something you like better.
Follow these tips and I promise you'll enjoy your VNs better.
Bah.I only compare VN's when there related to each other ei. Fandisk and Sequals.
As for KKCC it didn't came close to the first game.As I said EEF was better =.=