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Video Game Law in USA
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Since no one post this yet...
Short Summary: There was a California Law that aim to prevent violent video games from being sell to children.
Detail of the law (in short): "The bill sought to ban the sale or rental of "violent video games" to children. A "violent" game was defined as a "game in which the range of options available to a player includes killing, maiming, dismembering, or sexually assaulting an image of a human being."
Under the law, retailers that sold such games would be subject to a $1,000 fine. The bill would also have required "violent" video games to bear a two-inch-by-two-inch sticker with a "solid white '18' outlined in black" on their front covers. That's more than twice the size of the labels that currently adorn game-box covers and display the familiar Entertainment Software Rating Board (ESRB) rating." (excerpt from an article on Gamespot.com)
Argument for the law (from my perspective): violent is bad for children, corrupted the youth mind and turn them into gansters, psycho killer, murderer etc etc blah blah blah....putting a stricter collar on the game industry will help keep our children law abiding citizen, that make parents prouds.
Argument againts the law (from my perspective): the game industry has the right of free speech, to express video game however they like it. Even if it involve a freakishly buff man spliting a puny mercenary in half with guts and blood spilling everywhere.
The Supreme Court Decision: The law was declare unconstitutional because while kids should propally spend their time reading shakespear and figure out how to make new source of renewable energy and bring in world peace, having them jump into an interactive virtual world where they can maim and kill other humanoid is constitutioanlly OK!
My rat ass opinion: The law is pointless and stupid anyway because there already been a system to prevent children from buying anything involve blood and maiming. It call the ESRB rating. The reason why you see a 10 years old kid playing Resident Evil and blowing a zombie head off with a shotgun and giggle about it. It because their parents are too lazy to read the damn ESRB label, and in many occasion ignore the sale clerk warning of the material in the game. And these lazy parent want the law to step in and do their job for them.
My message to the PARENT!: Do your responsibility as a parents and watch your kid. Stop making your problem affect everyone because you can't stand up to the repsonsibility.
No Offense to the good parent out there. Keep up the good work.
Short Summary: There was a California Law that aim to prevent violent video games from being sell to children.
Detail of the law (in short): "The bill sought to ban the sale or rental of "violent video games" to children. A "violent" game was defined as a "game in which the range of options available to a player includes killing, maiming, dismembering, or sexually assaulting an image of a human being."
Under the law, retailers that sold such games would be subject to a $1,000 fine. The bill would also have required "violent" video games to bear a two-inch-by-two-inch sticker with a "solid white '18' outlined in black" on their front covers. That's more than twice the size of the labels that currently adorn game-box covers and display the familiar Entertainment Software Rating Board (ESRB) rating." (excerpt from an article on Gamespot.com)
Argument for the law (from my perspective): violent is bad for children, corrupted the youth mind and turn them into gansters, psycho killer, murderer etc etc blah blah blah....putting a stricter collar on the game industry will help keep our children law abiding citizen, that make parents prouds.
Argument againts the law (from my perspective): the game industry has the right of free speech, to express video game however they like it. Even if it involve a freakishly buff man spliting a puny mercenary in half with guts and blood spilling everywhere.
The Supreme Court Decision: The law was declare unconstitutional because while kids should propally spend their time reading shakespear and figure out how to make new source of renewable energy and bring in world peace, having them jump into an interactive virtual world where they can maim and kill other humanoid is constitutioanlly OK!
My rat ass opinion: The law is pointless and stupid anyway because there already been a system to prevent children from buying anything involve blood and maiming. It call the ESRB rating. The reason why you see a 10 years old kid playing Resident Evil and blowing a zombie head off with a shotgun and giggle about it. It because their parents are too lazy to read the damn ESRB label, and in many occasion ignore the sale clerk warning of the material in the game. And these lazy parent want the law to step in and do their job for them.
My message to the PARENT!: Do your responsibility as a parents and watch your kid. Stop making your problem affect everyone because you can't stand up to the repsonsibility.
No Offense to the good parent out there. Keep up the good work.
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Store-wide policies for Game Stop and Walmart already prohibit selling M-rated games to kids under the age of 16 or 18. Instead, parents buy those same M-rated games for their kids, defying the point of the policy in the first place. Shit like that makes me think that that bill's not gonna do a damn thing besides piss off quite a few people.
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Technically, what all you guys just said covers it. I always brought up this topic with my other friends and it always the same shit. Parents complain that their kids are growing up violent or picking up these violent habits from video games even though they bought it for them. All in all, this law is a waste of money/time.
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So what, instead of parents raising kids, they want the government to do it?
R-E-T-A-R-D-E-D
Don't even know why the bother to blame video games. The internet is a much,much,much worse place.
R-E-T-A-R-D-E-D
Don't even know why the bother to blame video games. The internet is a much,much,much worse place.
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In my hood the local asian electronic's store sells Vg's to anybody. This law could only affect the big coorperations
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The only reason the law even started in the first place is because a lot of parents are dumbshits. Instead of ,ya know, taking responsibility for all the wrongs they did for raising their kid to be little assholes they instead blame everything else. It happened to film, it happened to rock, hell it happened to photography at one point. Dumbshits will be dumbshits the world over. And ya know what, it'll happen again.
The only other reason is because Leland Yee is what you call a believer. Nothing I nor anyone else can say will makes him stop trying to pass the bill in some variation because he "Believes It" despite the overwhelming evidence that points otherwise.
The only other reason is because Leland Yee is what you call a believer. Nothing I nor anyone else can say will makes him stop trying to pass the bill in some variation because he "Believes It" despite the overwhelming evidence that points otherwise.
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I was hoping that a promise with there kids saying "Don't repeat any of these stunts while your at school or outside.If you DO repeat any of these violent act I will take away your game console,Return the game and get my money back,and be ground it (From any duration)" will help but I guess this was a stupid idea.
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They voted against the bill btw guys. They said games are protected by the first amendment and that its the parent responsibility to handle their kids.
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HokutoCorpse wrote...
They voted against the bill btw guys. They said games are protected by the first amendment and that its the parent responsibility to handle their kids. That won't stop more lazy parent to try and get another bill pass. It always gonna be like that until the lazy one get off their ass and raise their kids.
The story of the bill actually got on the news and the news reporter say that "video games include rape and violent are protected by the first amenmend". I'm sorry but how many game acutally contain rape scene, seriously, even GTA does not include that. They talk about it but in all the game i play there are no scene of rape, hell there more of that on Law and Order than video game. And violent is everywhere, even on TV damn it. That my friend is false news reporting.
my friend, who work in target, see people buy M rated game for their kids that clearly underage all the time and one of the parent actually say "if you turn psycho, you on your own." <---- true story
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This is one of those laws that make it look like the politicians care without them actually having to do anything.
Who cares it's only a label not like it'll effect the contents of the games only underaged kids would be complaining because mum and dad won't buy it for them.
It won't effect adults (I assume that we're all adults here) buying them.
Who cares it's only a label not like it'll effect the contents of the games only underaged kids would be complaining because mum and dad won't buy it for them.
It won't effect adults (I assume that we're all adults here) buying them.
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well since I'm already an adult I don't have to worry about that. and should my child ever want to play a game where they can decapitate a hooker with a chainsaw I'll say "only if I get a turn."
but in all srs bsn, I would judge if my child was mature enough to play a game like that and had reached an age where they knew that going out and chopping up a stripper isn't something you should do irl. I'd like to keep the sexual material away from my kid until at least after a few years into puberty. maybe high school age.
but in all srs bsn, I would judge if my child was mature enough to play a game like that and had reached an age where they knew that going out and chopping up a stripper isn't something you should do irl. I'd like to keep the sexual material away from my kid until at least after a few years into puberty. maybe high school age.
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ZLD wrote...
The story of the bill actually got on the news and the news reporter say that "video games include rape and violent are protected by the first amenmend". I'm sorry but how many game acutally contain rape scene, seriously, even GTA does not include that. They talk about it but in all the game i play there are no scene of rape, hell there more of that on Law and Order than video game. And violent is everywhere, even on TV damn it. That my friend is false news reporting.
The news will always try to find shit to throw on their channel. I seriously use to watch the news just for the weather, even then, they still lie. :[
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Azuran wrote...
California is clearly the worst place in the world.This has already been established... Well, worst place in the US.
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[quote="Dejitaru Ryuu"]new bill S.978
Lucky for us. Congress is more or less avoiding their job. I just watch the news a couple of days ago with a press conference from Obama saying Congress memembers is not showing up to debate, or passing bills or whatever they usually do in their little room. Also this bill is propally low on the list of shit that need to be done. Unless congress need a publicity stunt to distract the press and the nations in that case, this bill fit the job description. Either way politics still suck.
Lucky for us. Congress is more or less avoiding their job. I just watch the news a couple of days ago with a press conference from Obama saying Congress memembers is not showing up to debate, or passing bills or whatever they usually do in their little room. Also this bill is propally low on the list of shit that need to be done. Unless congress need a publicity stunt to distract the press and the nations in that case, this bill fit the job description. Either way politics still suck.
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Link to video if above doesn't work:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hytigOSjJxc&feature=channel_video_title
Link to oppose bill mentioned in vid:
http://act.demandprogress.org/letter/ten_strikes?akid=700.450896.5hVZPC&r...
So, yeah. We make an amazing triumph (videogames are officially recognized as art! Whoo!), and then this happens. As described in the vid, the bill is still new and has yet to really be considered, let alone passed, and it is a form of government censorship on the internet. The bill is apparently vague on several points and states that it should be illegal for anyone to post copyrighted content on the internet.
No more show clips.
No more music clips.
And, as for why I posted this thread in this forum section, no more videogame footage
Apparently it also entails the public performance of said material, making the whole Let's Play phenomena a literal crime that could lead to being fined or even sent to prison.
1. It's been shown in studies before that gameplay footage on the net as it is now has in fact helped in the marketing of videogames. It's a major reason why a number of high profile to mediocre developers don't mind Let's Plays. For the most part it helps sell.
2. This isn't about piracy, since the reason why we should be actively fighting to squash this bug before it evolves into a beast is because of its ability to make posting ANY kind of FOOTAGE [not the actual game/movie/OST itself, but clips and so on] from a game (or movie or show or audio etc.) ILLEGAL.
-Posting footage of you and your buddies fighting in Smash Bros or SF4 would be a CRIME
Fine or prison
-Posting footage which serves as an instructional video for games would be a CRIME
Fine or Prison
-Posting footage serving as a review of a game would be a CRIME
You get the idea
We need to kill this thing before it can walk, because if we let it get that far it'll sprint right into our freedoms and become a building block to true governmental censorship of the internet.
Link to video if above doesn't work:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hytigOSjJxc&feature=channel_video_title
Link to oppose bill mentioned in vid:
http://act.demandprogress.org/letter/ten_strikes?akid=700.450896.5hVZPC&r...
So, yeah. We make an amazing triumph (videogames are officially recognized as art! Whoo!), and then this happens. As described in the vid, the bill is still new and has yet to really be considered, let alone passed, and it is a form of government censorship on the internet. The bill is apparently vague on several points and states that it should be illegal for anyone to post copyrighted content on the internet.
No more show clips.
No more music clips.
And, as for why I posted this thread in this forum section, no more videogame footage
Apparently it also entails the public performance of said material, making the whole Let's Play phenomena a literal crime that could lead to being fined or even sent to prison.
1. It's been shown in studies before that gameplay footage on the net as it is now has in fact helped in the marketing of videogames. It's a major reason why a number of high profile to mediocre developers don't mind Let's Plays. For the most part it helps sell.
2. This isn't about piracy, since the reason why we should be actively fighting to squash this bug before it evolves into a beast is because of its ability to make posting ANY kind of FOOTAGE [not the actual game/movie/OST itself, but clips and so on] from a game (or movie or show or audio etc.) ILLEGAL.
-Posting footage of you and your buddies fighting in Smash Bros or SF4 would be a CRIME
Fine or prison
-Posting footage which serves as an instructional video for games would be a CRIME
Fine or Prison
-Posting footage serving as a review of a game would be a CRIME
You get the idea
We need to kill this thing before it can walk, because if we let it get that far it'll sprint right into our freedoms and become a building block to true governmental censorship of the internet.
