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What is the best H- game you have played?
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Today let's talk about 平グモã¡ã‚ƒã‚“†•戦国下克上物語.
After the epic è£…ç”²æ‚ªé¬¼æ‘æ£ by Nitroplus, I've always find it hard (screw it, make that impossible) to find another protagonist out there that I would acknowledge as a true Anti-Hero. After all, in è£…ç”²æ‚ªé¬¼æ‘æ£ the protagonist was ultimately met with a rather tragic end no matter how you try to interpret it, with his personality finally yielding completely to a side our society would call evil. It was one of the most greatest Visual Novels and story I've ever read, and while it is still untranslated I would suggest that anyone who thinks they can even make the slightest sense out of machine-translated Japanese to try it out. It's simply too good not to.
... That being said, ultimately è£…ç”²æ‚ªé¬¼æ‘æ£'s story is kind of dramatized. When you're caught in the atmosphere you wouldn't realize it, but after some time finishing the story you start to realize that its main drama attraction and theme 'Sin' was something our protagonist cared WAY too much and was never able to let go, ultimately resulting in his fall. You'll never see such a person in a hundred years or maybe even a thousand, especially since the world is so peaceful.
Getting kind of sidetracked, now, to talk about 平グモã¡ã‚ƒã‚“†•戦国下克上物語.
This is the story of Kyuu-chan, a young man who was once traumatized by his past as a soldier (and getting dumped by his wife LOL). He was living a miserable, empty life until one day, he was dragged to marriage proposal, met Hiragumo-chan, and fell in love at first sight. Thus we begin learning the two's story, as they strive to make the world peaceful together with Kyuu-chan reinstated as a samurai.
Now, note that this is a political heavy story (like, 90% of it is totally political) so it's not something anyone can swallow easily.
I'm not going to say much, since most of it can be considered dull for people who has no interest in reading details. I'm just going to say that this story has an extremely unique setting where the Japanese warring period was portrayed in a very realistic manner.
Anyone who have read this story should notice it. All the usual ideas of moralities and values we are accustomed to - often read and continuously fed on by everyone and everything in this world >_> - were different in this story. Most noticeable and worrying is the presentation of Hiragumo-chan, an innocent, happy-go-lucky, super cheerful girl who cares nothing but living a happy today. The way she discussed with Kyuu-chan about poisoning a friendly person because it would benefit their position, or burning the hundred years old temple to win a battle, or murdering their lord even though they were as close as brother and sister (Yoshitsune was somewhat a kid), constant talks about rebellions, giving out her own daughter as a hostage with a real smile and laughter, etc etc - no, she's not yandere or something. She really is totally good and pure at heart. It's just that our world and their world are so different, so so different, that it was just heartbreaking. So painful to read.
... All in all, a tedious, somewhat interesting, minor gameplay, and utterly unique VN. I will remember this VN, even if no one else will. This is a true diamond, and the second anti-hero in VNs that I'll acknowledge wholeheartedly.
After the epic è£…ç”²æ‚ªé¬¼æ‘æ£ by Nitroplus, I've always find it hard (screw it, make that impossible) to find another protagonist out there that I would acknowledge as a true Anti-Hero. After all, in è£…ç”²æ‚ªé¬¼æ‘æ£ the protagonist was ultimately met with a rather tragic end no matter how you try to interpret it, with his personality finally yielding completely to a side our society would call evil. It was one of the most greatest Visual Novels and story I've ever read, and while it is still untranslated I would suggest that anyone who thinks they can even make the slightest sense out of machine-translated Japanese to try it out. It's simply too good not to.
... That being said, ultimately è£…ç”²æ‚ªé¬¼æ‘æ£'s story is kind of dramatized. When you're caught in the atmosphere you wouldn't realize it, but after some time finishing the story you start to realize that its main drama attraction and theme 'Sin' was something our protagonist cared WAY too much and was never able to let go, ultimately resulting in his fall. You'll never see such a person in a hundred years or maybe even a thousand, especially since the world is so peaceful.
Getting kind of sidetracked, now, to talk about 平グモã¡ã‚ƒã‚“†•戦国下克上物語.
This is the story of Kyuu-chan, a young man who was once traumatized by his past as a soldier (and getting dumped by his wife LOL). He was living a miserable, empty life until one day, he was dragged to marriage proposal, met Hiragumo-chan, and fell in love at first sight. Thus we begin learning the two's story, as they strive to make the world peaceful together with Kyuu-chan reinstated as a samurai.
Now, note that this is a political heavy story (like, 90% of it is totally political) so it's not something anyone can swallow easily.
I'm not going to say much, since most of it can be considered dull for people who has no interest in reading details. I'm just going to say that this story has an extremely unique setting where the Japanese warring period was portrayed in a very realistic manner.
Anyone who have read this story should notice it. All the usual ideas of moralities and values we are accustomed to - often read and continuously fed on by everyone and everything in this world >_> - were different in this story. Most noticeable and worrying is the presentation of Hiragumo-chan, an innocent, happy-go-lucky, super cheerful girl who cares nothing but living a happy today. The way she discussed with Kyuu-chan about poisoning a friendly person because it would benefit their position, or burning the hundred years old temple to win a battle, or murdering their lord even though they were as close as brother and sister (Yoshitsune was somewhat a kid), constant talks about rebellions, giving out her own daughter as a hostage with a real smile and laughter, etc etc - no, she's not yandere or something. She really is totally good and pure at heart. It's just that our world and their world are so different, so so different, that it was just heartbreaking. So painful to read.
Spoiler:
... All in all, a tedious, somewhat interesting, minor gameplay, and utterly unique VN. I will remember this VN, even if no one else will. This is a true diamond, and the second anti-hero in VNs that I'll acknowledge wholeheartedly.
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I wish it was not some thing so popular and more interesting but its Majikoi from what iv played i loved it i actually skipped the sex to get to the plot. a close second is the devil on g string.
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Well you can try my play list
Full action RPG system
-Kamidori Alchemy Meister
-Tears to Tiara
-Sengoku Rance
-Monster Quest 1 and 2
Some normal eroge
-Katawa Shoujo
-Sagara Family
-Wanko to Kurasou
Have Fun
Full action RPG system
-Kamidori Alchemy Meister
-Tears to Tiara
-Sengoku Rance
-Monster Quest 1 and 2
Some normal eroge
-Katawa Shoujo
-Sagara Family
-Wanko to Kurasou
Have Fun
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Probably shouldn't mention this here, but since è£…ç”²æ‚ªé¬¼æ‘æ£ is one of the most epic VNs ever... there's now a sequel to this VN titled 装甲æ¶é¬¼æ‘æ£-é”界篇, though it's a manga. Apparently people are time travelling to the future so they can kill our protagonist lol.
EDIT: For those who has not read this VN, for the love of God, don't read this manga. Just don't. I won't bear the responsibility if you spoil all the epicness for yourself.
EDIT: For those who has not read this VN, for the love of God, don't read this manga. Just don't. I won't bear the responsibility if you spoil all the epicness for yourself.
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Zolnir wrote...
Probably shouldn't mention this here, but since è£…ç”²æ‚ªé¬¼æ‘æ£ is one of the most epic VNs ever...lol What happened to Subarashiki Hibi? =P
I guess that from an objective point looking at both VNs as a whole maybe Muramasa is better but then again, this is up to the tastes of each player / reader.
However, I'm truly sure that Muramasa is an epic VN so anyone who knows jap and likes VNs and still didn't read it, are missing out on epicness.
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Subarashiki Hibi is THE best VN ever (for me).
è£…ç”²æ‚ªé¬¼æ‘æ£ is ONE of the most epic VNs ever out there. Note the difference. :)
è£…ç”²æ‚ªé¬¼æ‘æ£ is ONE of the most epic VNs ever out there. Note the difference. :)
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Hmm... Let's see...
PC: Sexy Beach 3 & Real Kanojo
VN: Katawa Shoujo (at the moment. Just started to play VN's.)
SWF: Zone's works (search for them here)
PC: Sexy Beach 3 & Real Kanojo
VN: Katawa Shoujo (at the moment. Just started to play VN's.)
SWF: Zone's works (search for them here)
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Zolnir wrote...
Subarashiki Hibi is THE best VN ever (for me).è£…ç”²æ‚ªé¬¼æ‘æ£ is ONE of the most epic VNs ever out there. Note the difference. :)
Oh, I see what you mean. My misunderstanding =P
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Okay, finished (the true route for Seinarukana and Ein no Aselia: The Third Destination) Seinarukana Special Edition. My impression? Definitely worth it's value to be put up as one of the best ever epics ever created. The entire series can be summed up with just one word to know it's incredible value: Epic. Absolutely epic.
Before I start reviewing, let's talk about some of the impressions I've had for Ein no Aselia (The original one, not Third Destination). Ein no Aselia is a very innocent, light hearted themed story despite its attempt at certain points to sound grim, particularly during your first playthrough. However, you would later discover you can overturn that certain tragedy by selecting the right choices during your second playthrough, and thus what I meant by innocent. It's comparable to a high school romance novel where reality doesn't seem to have a consequence on the character, and they always seem to get their way.
I'd like to compare Ein no Aselia to Fate/Stay Night. Some spoilers here, so don't open if you haven't read either VNs:
Now, to start the review. Seinarukana fixed almost every problem of that. I was surprised to see that Seinarukana - despite the rather lucky happy end and all - has an appropriate dose of realism that makes the story incredibly good to read. It's not excessively grim like Muramasa where everything was painted in such a wicked light that it's hard NOT to feel like the entire world is evil, and yet not so lacking in realism that everything read like a fairy tale or soap opera. It's just... appropriate.
The protagonist Nozomi is subjected to a series of problems, and each one of them introduced the consequences properly instead of the incredible usually seen 'as long as we go towards the light everything will be juuuust fine, teehee~' drama. There's a heck tonne of comedy and tsukomi of course, but that's common in most VNs. There's even a certain world introduced that had such terrifying implications that you could literally a chill up your backbone. And even right up till the end, despite the protagonist seemingly accept his fate and had cast away all of his regrets to follow his own beliefs, the Assort chapters properly tells you that that is not the case, and he like any other humans always had that shadow of doubt that's constantly gnawing at him from the inside.
There's another thing that I like really much about the Seinarukana story, and that's completion. They did not cut corners. Each story was painstakingly constructed to as complete as possible. Most of the character's story was told - well you can't cover everyone, but most of them - was covered with such visible effort that it's hard not to respect the writer. Usually in an SRPG the creators would choose to put in a few minutes of story and jump right to the next stage while making little to no sense other than, "WE HAVE TO PROTECT *INSERT HERE*!", but Seinarukana did not do that.
The Assort chapters were especially satisfying to read. They are the stories after the ending of Seinarukana. Nanashi/Akatsuki's story is well tailored and incredibly adorable, Talia/Sonosuke's story talks about Talia's doubts and Sonosuke's open and straightforward attitude when faced with a tough decision, and the final one between Reme and Nozomi - ironically the weakest story out of the 3 Assorts even though they're the protagonist - tells the brief story about Nozomi's condition and encounter with 2 Law Eternals.
The combined content of the PSP and PC version is MASSIVE as it is incredibly SATISFYING, and while not as well constructed and perfect as Baldr Sky, had given me the same kind of nostalgia. This is truly the most epic VNs ever produced by the company and deserves a 10 out of 10 for its story.
The SRPG can be a total ass though; I am extremely dissatisfied with the fact that only All Rounders can change their skills during battle, and that too must be done through a series of unnecessary, reducible actions. It makes some fights harder than it should be and ultimately forced me to give up challenging at Chapter 8 because I simply don't have that much time to waste, and used the Auto Win patch to go through except during boss fights.
In short, good game, kind of annoying SRPG, okay 3D effects, and an amazing story.
Now, to the rather short VN Aselia: The Third Destination. 10 out of 10.
... Why? This tells the story of Yuuto and Aselia, after being sent into a world under orders to do something, discovers that Aselia has become pregnant.
Now, this VN is AMAZING. Completely discarding its predecessor's optimism, The Third Destination takes on a largely dark atmosphere and tells the bloody tale of war between the Chaos and Law Eternals, as shown through the various hardships experienced by the protagonists. It also tells of the brief encounter between all three No.1 Eternal Swords, which ultimately resulted in Narukana's sealing.
This story is grim. Very grim. To put this spoilerless-ly, There's a total bitch (I'm sorry for the harsh word, but I really cannot find another word to describe her -_-") at the Law Eternal's camp, also one of the No.1 Eternal Swords, who is determined to kill Yuuto and Aselia because they're interfering with her plans, and Yuuto and Aselia lost the fight despite being able to escape with their lives. There was a scene so shocking that my heart literally stopped there for a second. It was only through luck that they had managed to survive in the end. The story remained dark and even chose to tell about Euphoria's birth and what happened to the protagonists with nothing but a few CGs, DURING THE ENDING CUTSCENE. The epilogue was given to the Law Eternals instead, where a dark future is foretold and highly implied the coming of a sequel. Amazing, amazing execution. Its rare to see that a VN can stay true to its intended atmosphere from the beginning till the end.
This pack? Amazing. I would buy it if the custom ain't such a bitch in my country and blocks all 18+ stuff. The SRPG is rather cumbersome and old, but still amazing. I highly recommend anyone who wouldn't mind wasting a few weeks of their free time to play this, because it is definitely worth its value, and more.
Before I start reviewing, let's talk about some of the impressions I've had for Ein no Aselia (The original one, not Third Destination). Ein no Aselia is a very innocent, light hearted themed story despite its attempt at certain points to sound grim, particularly during your first playthrough. However, you would later discover you can overturn that certain tragedy by selecting the right choices during your second playthrough, and thus what I meant by innocent. It's comparable to a high school romance novel where reality doesn't seem to have a consequence on the character, and they always seem to get their way.
I'd like to compare Ein no Aselia to Fate/Stay Night. Some spoilers here, so don't open if you haven't read either VNs:
Spoiler:
Now, to start the review. Seinarukana fixed almost every problem of that. I was surprised to see that Seinarukana - despite the rather lucky happy end and all - has an appropriate dose of realism that makes the story incredibly good to read. It's not excessively grim like Muramasa where everything was painted in such a wicked light that it's hard NOT to feel like the entire world is evil, and yet not so lacking in realism that everything read like a fairy tale or soap opera. It's just... appropriate.
The protagonist Nozomi is subjected to a series of problems, and each one of them introduced the consequences properly instead of the incredible usually seen 'as long as we go towards the light everything will be juuuust fine, teehee~' drama. There's a heck tonne of comedy and tsukomi of course, but that's common in most VNs. There's even a certain world introduced that had such terrifying implications that you could literally a chill up your backbone. And even right up till the end, despite the protagonist seemingly accept his fate and had cast away all of his regrets to follow his own beliefs, the Assort chapters properly tells you that that is not the case, and he like any other humans always had that shadow of doubt that's constantly gnawing at him from the inside.
There's another thing that I like really much about the Seinarukana story, and that's completion. They did not cut corners. Each story was painstakingly constructed to as complete as possible. Most of the character's story was told - well you can't cover everyone, but most of them - was covered with such visible effort that it's hard not to respect the writer. Usually in an SRPG the creators would choose to put in a few minutes of story and jump right to the next stage while making little to no sense other than, "WE HAVE TO PROTECT *INSERT HERE*!", but Seinarukana did not do that.
The Assort chapters were especially satisfying to read. They are the stories after the ending of Seinarukana. Nanashi/Akatsuki's story is well tailored and incredibly adorable, Talia/Sonosuke's story talks about Talia's doubts and Sonosuke's open and straightforward attitude when faced with a tough decision, and the final one between Reme and Nozomi - ironically the weakest story out of the 3 Assorts even though they're the protagonist - tells the brief story about Nozomi's condition and encounter with 2 Law Eternals.
The combined content of the PSP and PC version is MASSIVE as it is incredibly SATISFYING, and while not as well constructed and perfect as Baldr Sky, had given me the same kind of nostalgia. This is truly the most epic VNs ever produced by the company and deserves a 10 out of 10 for its story.
The SRPG can be a total ass though; I am extremely dissatisfied with the fact that only All Rounders can change their skills during battle, and that too must be done through a series of unnecessary, reducible actions. It makes some fights harder than it should be and ultimately forced me to give up challenging at Chapter 8 because I simply don't have that much time to waste, and used the Auto Win patch to go through except during boss fights.
In short, good game, kind of annoying SRPG, okay 3D effects, and an amazing story.
Now, to the rather short VN Aselia: The Third Destination. 10 out of 10.
... Why? This tells the story of Yuuto and Aselia, after being sent into a world under orders to do something, discovers that Aselia has become pregnant.
Now, this VN is AMAZING. Completely discarding its predecessor's optimism, The Third Destination takes on a largely dark atmosphere and tells the bloody tale of war between the Chaos and Law Eternals, as shown through the various hardships experienced by the protagonists. It also tells of the brief encounter between all three No.1 Eternal Swords, which ultimately resulted in Narukana's sealing.
This story is grim. Very grim. To put this spoilerless-ly, There's a total bitch (I'm sorry for the harsh word, but I really cannot find another word to describe her -_-") at the Law Eternal's camp, also one of the No.1 Eternal Swords, who is determined to kill Yuuto and Aselia because they're interfering with her plans, and Yuuto and Aselia lost the fight despite being able to escape with their lives. There was a scene so shocking that my heart literally stopped there for a second. It was only through luck that they had managed to survive in the end. The story remained dark and even chose to tell about Euphoria's birth and what happened to the protagonists with nothing but a few CGs, DURING THE ENDING CUTSCENE. The epilogue was given to the Law Eternals instead, where a dark future is foretold and highly implied the coming of a sequel. Amazing, amazing execution. Its rare to see that a VN can stay true to its intended atmosphere from the beginning till the end.
This pack? Amazing. I would buy it if the custom ain't such a bitch in my country and blocks all 18+ stuff. The SRPG is rather cumbersome and old, but still amazing. I highly recommend anyone who wouldn't mind wasting a few weeks of their free time to play this, because it is definitely worth its value, and more.
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Most likely the games I've listed ranks somewhere between 1 and 2.
Well in terms of story I've got to hand it to:
G-senjou no Maou (this is the only VN that got me glued to the monitor from start to end)
Ever17 (started off pretty slow but picks up midway and fucks the player right up his ass and gets him wanting for more)
in terms of gameplay:
Kamidori Alchemy Meister (guaranteed 100+ hours of pure fun)
Rance series (Ancient Japan, need I say more)
Well in terms of story I've got to hand it to:
G-senjou no Maou (this is the only VN that got me glued to the monitor from start to end)
Ever17 (started off pretty slow but picks up midway and fucks the player right up his ass and gets him wanting for more)
in terms of gameplay:
Kamidori Alchemy Meister (guaranteed 100+ hours of pure fun)
Rance series (Ancient Japan, need I say more)
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I can't believe how bored I was to go through Monster Girl Quest 2's final battle a few times, every time I was bored. And I am surprised how well the English translated version had read. And I can't believe we've had NO NEWS FOR A FREAKING YEAR and some of you haven't gone totally nuts just yet; I'm already half mad after just two months. >_>