Will The Wii U be a Success?

So, as the topic implies, do you think that Nintendo's upcoming Wii U console will become a success?

My thoughts on the matter, it's very hard to say (as for everybody else considering we no very little about the final specs and whatnot) but I think it has a chance. It will not have Wii-like success, but something along that middle ground between the 3DS and the Wii. Honestly I hope Nintendo has truly learned from the 3DS fiasco last year, because they have an insurmountable amount of expectations to live up to right now.

I know third parties don't like Nintendo games out on release because they all know their games will be overshadowed, but at this point Nintendo has to do whatever it takes. No second chances. All Nintendo has to do to capture the core gaming crowd is to announce these games at E3, and put them out on release and they have me and a couple million others locked in.

- F-Zero brought back and possible launch title
- Pikmin 3 at launch
- Retro's game at launch (Metroid Prime 4 or something else entirely)
- Mario launch game

Have at least two of those games and the Wii U should print money on release. Right now though, it is all speculation, and until E3, we all can dream of what may be.

Is there any game that you are hoping for on the Wii U's release? Or any other franchise that you want?

I sometimes wonder if Nintendo is going the way of Sega. To many consoles and choices for the consumer arent always a great thing, then again its no longer the mid 90's so it could pan out differently.

Personally i would love a

-True Mario 64 successor at Launch. Theres just not enough of these on console now a days and its a shame.
-F-Zero !!! yes definitely, good choice.
-Smash bros, but one that doesnt alienate the pro gamers like brawl did.
-Star Fox, its been awhile since weve seen a good sequel to this series.
- Something Earthbound related (why must you hate this series nintendo!!!)

Not to sound curt, but no, there is no way Nintendo is going the Sega route. There were a number of reasons on why Sega went third party and quit the console business. The most important being that they never knew how to handle their console business. And with the way the handled the Dreamcast (literally announcing it was in stores when they showed it at E3, not even retailers knew shipments were coming), that was the final nail in the coffin for Sega. I love Sega and all, I grew up with the Genesis, but consoles was not something Sega excelled at (business-wise).

In terms of the games, Mario 64 we already have a successor in a way, look at the Mario Galaxy games. Those games are considered the closest successor to Mario 64 and for good reason.

Smash Bros has already been announced (3DS and Wii U version) and hasn't started production yet (I'd assume). Sakurai just finished up Kid Icarus no more than two months ago, so I wouldn't be surprised to see Sakurai still looking for talent to hire on (because the other Nintendo R&D, EAD teams are busy with their own projects). The best thing we can hope for at E3 is a reiteration that the game is coming out on both the Wii U and 3DS with possible trailer to start the hype train, with a Smash Bros Dojo website to follow shortly after.

F-Zero would be amazing (played part of Grand Prix) but Miyamoto has hinted, or at least being construed in a way that a release for it is unlikely because Miyamoto just mentions the game now compared to last E3. And the GBA games (handled by Capcom) were considered to be pretty bad so that doesn't help things at all. Hopefully are fears are wrong and it gets announced, Nintendo is a company that you just never know what may happen.

Star Fox would be cool, considering Star Fox 3DS was just released last September. But I think the difficulty comes in on whether it should be pure air combat like the original, or go the Star Fox Adventures/Assault route, where those games didn't sell well either.

All in all I can't wait to see what Nintendo has planned for E3 and I have hopes that if they check off everything they said they would, then the Wii U 'it prints money' gifs should be coming in no time.

As long as there's good games on it, it should do alright.

That is the most important part, very true indeed. But (warning: analyst sounding doom and gloom incoming) the launch titles (and marketing) will determine if it is successful. Look at how the 3DS did, now I realize that it sold more units than the original DS in a 8 month time span and all, but initially it was pretty worrisome for Nintendo.

Sorry for sounding pessimistic and all, but I do not want the same mistakes repeated, I want this to succeed right away. The faster it succeeds the faster we can look forward to a possible MOTHER, F-Zero, Ice Climbers, Viewtiful Joe, Okami, or Eternal Darkness sequel/remake.

Correcting you. What actually sent Sega to the grave was the Saturn announcement at E3, pissed off some retailers that they decided to cancel their shipment of the console all together. As for the Dreamcast, the PS2 anticipation sent it to the Scrap Zone.



I don't think I'll see Viewtiful Joe & Okami anytime soon, by how Capcom is handling things right now (heavy contenders), as for Eternal Darkness, I can only hope Silicon Knights is already at the scene.

What I want to see is Fatal Frame 2 & 4, and Metroid 2 remake, along with something new from them (it will be nice to see Earthbound!).

Edit: talk about not noticing that grammar mistake at "handling".

From what I've seen online, it seems that there's a lot of confusion about the Wii U's specs.

http://arstechnica.com/gaming/news/2011/06/report-wii-u-50-percent-more-powerful-than-ps3.ars

This is one of the earlier reports

http://techland.time.com/2011/06/09/wii-u-specs-disclosed-including-25gb-optical-discs/

http://news.yahoo.com/developers-claim-wii-u-weaker-ps3-360-nintendo-210201325.html

These are some of the more recent reports.

Now, I don't know much about technology, but the PS3 and XBOX360's hardware are so outdated that even a smartphone could blow them away. Sure we do get good looking games these days but the same games look much better on a PC, and if the Wii U is even weaker than that, Nintendo would be in serious trouble. The Wii's motion control and casual playstyle has lost it's appeal a long time ago, I mean just look at all the shovelware on the Wii. There are good games on the Wii of course but third party stuff aren't really good at all. Which means Nintendo has to go HD no matter what, and while they did promise 1080, the recent rumors about the Wii U are unsettling. There are already some multiplats announced for the Wii U (Darksiders II and Batman Arkham City etc etc) but some developers are saying that the Wii U doesn't make the games look as good as seen on other platforms. One other thing is that as you know, Ninja Gaiden III was also announced on the Wii U, but was given a subtitle (Ninja Gaiden 3: Razor's Edge). Whether this means that the game will have revamped graphics (for the better or for worse) and revamped gameplay is unclear at the moment.

I know graphics don't make a game, but it's 2012. If Nintendo can offer killer graphics AND awesome gameplay it would be one giant feast of gaming goodness.

Ah, my mistake then. I happened to remember it as the Dreamcast. Thanks for the correction.

As for no Viewtiful Joe or Okami, I might have to agree. Viewtiful Joe is probably dead to Capcom, and Okami might have a chance since it recently got a DS outing and Wii remake prior to that. Eternal Darkness is looking more likely since Silicon Knights or at least the creator of Eternal Darkness has hinted that he may or may not be thinking about bringing it back. Honestly, an E3 reveal for the sequel would be awesome. Nintendo is putting their money where their mouth is when it comes to third party content, so I wouldn't be surprised if it gets announced at E3.

This is a skype conversation for me but my 2 cents.

There's power in number when you have spoiled kids and Loving soccer moms. Add Hardcore gamers into that equation and Nintendo makes another X amount of millions till their next home console.

EDIT: F-zero is currently Nintendo Idle chat that they decided to share with the world.

I'm hoping that at least it will be a launch title for the Wii U (Viewtiful Joe), do wonder if the implication of an anime studio affect the series?

And yes to the rest (Okami[give me epicness Cappy, like Clover did], Eternal Darkness, etc.)....sigh....just gonna have to wait for E3.



This video should explain most of the mumbo jumbo behind the Wii U Specs; it convinces me at least to afford it.

I wanna see Dinosaur Planet remade as it was intended, honestly. I liked Star Fox Adventures (a LOT!), but there were just too many small things in the game which made it.. Kinda frustrating! Such as the "fight" with General Scales, points of no return near the end, Test of Strength, Test of Fear, and so on. It's the small things which made this BS! But the gameplay premise was simply so good, it NEEDS a remake!

Star Fox Adventures was an interesting game, but one that probably won't get remade since it sold like crap (VGChartz say about 1.7 million, give or take .5 for sales unaccounted for). I didn't know that it was hated among gamers because it wasn't a traditional Star Fox game, which took me by surprise. Granted, I was like 10 when played it, so I didn't nitpick like I do now.

A game that I would love to try but never ever will be able to except through eBay of sorts is Earthbound/MOTHER series. Nintendo will not localize them ever, why? Because Shigesato Itoi apparently retired from making games, and Nintendo won't dare try to make a sequel without Itoi.

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=98123

I'm happy that he can relax, but man how amazing would it be to have a MOTHER 4 or the other series localized. Also the series sold like utter dog shit apparently which is a huge shame considering how amazing it is suppose to be.

Honest answer. I dont know. As stated earlier, it will depend on the games for that console. I must thank my friends for the next lines though. They have Wii and i dont. Traded consoles for a week. My PS2 for his Wii for a week. Got to play latest Zelda and Mario games through that way. Im rambling so back to topic

Anyway, the games will make the system. If Wii-U wont gather any intrest in game developers, its just another Nindendo Wii. Im honsetly bored sick of Zelda and Mario for a moment. But knowing nindendo, either re-release for Wii-U or comletely new games. I hope newest LOZ game can beat Ocarina of time first then Twilight Princess.

But its too soon to tell properly. It looks promising, but it might be a trap. So im putting it on neutral area. But on the half of not successful in neutral area. The time will tell.

I can't assume it will be a success.

It's popular with families and younger kids, but the question is, which group do they wanna target?
Family, kids, teens, old people or even aliens?

They will have to step it up a bit since I heard from a few friends that Nintendo isn't making such a successful progress. I don't know if it's true or not though.

My only advice to them is they have to start getting more creative and start working on their graphic programming because the only games I am seeing on the shelves of the game store are for people under 12 that provide graphic inferior to the Xbox or PlayStation.

But then again I could be wrong, just sharing the info from my views.

I believe it will be a success just because its Nintendo and they have been around for so long. I don't see the house the plumber build dying anytime soon like most think it is begining to do.

Nintendo may not target the hardcore crowd this generation but don't doubt that they aren't doing well. They are still one of Japan's most profitable company.

Very very true, and let's say the absolute worst happens; Nintendo filing for bankruptcy. I'm pretty sure the Japanese government would bail them out because of how much they provide towards Japan's real GDP.

I find it funny that investors are still calling the "Nintendo is doomed" card because of the now-adjusted first ever loss of around 45 billion yen, or 553 million dollars. They blatantly ignore the fact that the 3DS is soon if not already making a profit, much faster than the original DS did. Along with the fact that Nintendo has a Scrooge McDuck-worth pile of cash stored in a vault (14 billion dollars estimated).

EDIT: They have about 14 billion in reserve, split between investment and savings.

I checked out the Wii-U again .....

I think it's kinda cool, but I doubt that this will become a big hit.

It looks to me that they are step by step progress, what are they suppressing? If the Japanese wanted to make a huge hit they would have done so but something is off here. They just made it more "portable" and a little attractive.

My wild guess is here that they are desperately trying to come up with an idea to let the money flow into their pockets again, I am guessing again they already have new ideas planned out before the Wii-U comes out.

I am not gonna write anymore junk in here, I am just gonna let this one play out and see how it can sell for itself in time.