What should be done with the drinking age?
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ZiggyOtaku wrote...
I think if you're capable of voting for the leader of your country at 18 you should be capable of drinking a beer.If you don't agree with that, perhaps voting age should be higher.
i don't agree with that, at 18 ur still not knowledgeable in how politics is, or you not aware of issues etc., and thus most 18 year olds don't vote, some do, but the majority do not, most demographic say that 18-29yr olds account for about 15% of the total voters, but thats 18-29 if thats equally distributed, then about 7-8% of voters are 18-22(first time voters), which just doesn't say a lot about 18yr olds, so i'll pick the other option and say raise the voting age, so ppl can't use that excuse as an example toward lowering the drinking age
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spalose wrote...
ZiggyOtaku wrote...
I think if you're capable of voting for the leader of your country at 18 you should be capable of drinking a beer.If you don't agree with that, perhaps voting age should be higher.
i don't agree with that, at 18 ur still not knowledgeable in how politics is, or you not aware of issues etc., and thus most 18 year olds don't vote, some do, but the majority do not, most demographic say that 18-29yr olds account for about 15% of the total voters, but thats 18-29 if thats equally distributed, then about 7-8% of voters are 18-22(first time voters), which just doesn't say a lot about 18yr olds, so i'll pick the other option and say raise the voting age, so ppl can't use that excuse as an example toward lowering the drinking age
Well, I strongly disagree here. With proper education you do know your fair share about politics and how the world turns around. Heck, in Denmark most youths are already taught how the system works with 16. In my opinion, 18 is fine (well being German and Danish I am used to that). With 18 you should be aware of the risks that come with smoking / drinking and you should be responsible enough not to drive or do other things that require alot of concentration even under mild alcohol influence.
Call me whatever you want, but I think that the educational system seriously lacks quite alot of progression and information input, incase 18 year old persons aren't considered grown ups.
On that note, 18 is the min. age in Germany / Denmark for the military aswell and not only for alcohol / tobacco / driving licenses. It sounds way more weird to trust an 18 year old boy / girl to handle lethal weapons if he wouldn't even know how to control his alcohol consume.
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Eranikum wrote...
spalose wrote...
ZiggyOtaku wrote...
I think if you're capable of voting for the leader of your country at 18 you should be capable of drinking a beer.If you don't agree with that, perhaps voting age should be higher.
i don't agree with that, at 18 ur still not knowledgeable in how politics is, or you not aware of issues etc., and thus most 18 year olds don't vote, some do, but the majority do not, most demographic say that 18-29yr olds account for about 15% of the total voters, but thats 18-29 if thats equally distributed, then about 7-8% of voters are 18-22(first time voters), which just doesn't say a lot about 18yr olds, so i'll pick the other option and say raise the voting age, so ppl can't use that excuse as an example toward lowering the drinking age
Well, I strongly disagree here. With proper education you do know your fair share about politics and how the world turns around. Heck, in Denmark most youths are already taught how the system works with 16. In my opinion, 18 is fine (well being German and Danish I am used to that). With 18 you should be aware of the risks that come with smoking / drinking and you should be responsible enough not to drive or do other things that require alot of concentration even under mild alcohol influence.
Call me whatever you want, but I think that the educational system seriously lacks quite alot of progression and information input, incase 18 year old persons aren't considered grown ups.
On that note, 18 is the min. age in Germany / Denmark for the military aswell and not only for alcohol / tobacco / driving licenses. It sounds way more weird to trust an 18 year old boy / girl to handle lethal weapons if he wouldn't even know how to control his alcohol consume.
you can disagree all you want i respect that and won't agree with you, i stick to what i said, especially having gone threw the public school systems in the United States, and seeing what the did/didn't teach me. I didn't vote when i was 18, i didn't think i could vote for the president, and all the other local propositions without learning more about how the system works and studying it. after seeing it all, i voted for Bush in 04', and plan to vote this year, for who....not sure yet, leaning a certain way thou. and here in the USA u can get a rifle/shotgun at 18 and a handgun at 21
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Brittany
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Eranikum wrote...
spalose wrote...
ZiggyOtaku wrote...
I think if you're capable of voting for the leader of your country at 18 you should be capable of drinking a beer.If you don't agree with that, perhaps voting age should be higher.
i don't agree with that, at 18 ur still not knowledgeable in how politics is, or you not aware of issues etc., and thus most 18 year olds don't vote, some do, but the majority do not, most demographic say that 18-29yr olds account for about 15% of the total voters, but thats 18-29 if thats equally distributed, then about 7-8% of voters are 18-22(first time voters), which just doesn't say a lot about 18yr olds, so i'll pick the other option and say raise the voting age, so ppl can't use that excuse as an example toward lowering the drinking age
Well, I strongly disagree here. With proper education you do know your fair share about politics and how the world turns around. Heck, in Denmark most youths are already taught how the system works with 16. In my opinion, 18 is fine (well being German and Danish I am used to that). With 18 you should be aware of the risks that come with smoking / drinking and you should be responsible enough not to drive or do other things that require alot of concentration even under mild alcohol influence.
Call me whatever you want, but I think that the educational system seriously lacks quite alot of progression and information input, incase 18 year old persons aren't considered grown ups.
On that note, 18 is the min. age in Germany / Denmark for the military aswell and not only for alcohol / tobacco / driving licenses. It sounds way more weird to trust an 18 year old boy / girl to handle lethal weapons if he wouldn't even know how to control his alcohol consume.
That's sorta the point I was getting at.
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ok dont want to sound like a dick but its only 18 here and iv already bought alchahol so elfen must just be coventry sorry man.
but i find at the pubs its the yunger people that drink more responnsably and end up being able to walk out the door without starting a fight i know a few landlords and ladies the agree with me on this if anything it shows that there should be a age cap lol joke that would seriously suck but the older drinkers are always the ones that cause the trouble. not the younger ones plus i think it shows responsabilaty that young people can actually be trusted to drink responsabbly.
but i find at the pubs its the yunger people that drink more responnsably and end up being able to walk out the door without starting a fight i know a few landlords and ladies the agree with me on this if anything it shows that there should be a age cap lol joke that would seriously suck but the older drinkers are always the ones that cause the trouble. not the younger ones plus i think it shows responsabilaty that young people can actually be trusted to drink responsabbly.
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FrozenAngel wrote...
it is 18 in my country ;)I myself think it's unneccesary to drink overall. You can have fun without drinking, and isn't it even funnier if you remember what was so fun?
i soo totally agree. 8)
i only drink on special occasions like B-days,parties,whv. and i can only drink like 4-5 cans until i get weezy or pass out. :shock:
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ok bs is stinking out the last post.
and i always remember wot happend im just good at holding my drink i suppose
and i always remember wot happend im just good at holding my drink i suppose
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crimson tears wrote...
ok bs is stinking out the last post. and i always remember wot happend im just good at holding my drink i suppose
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exactly same here i only drink a the week end im not a alchaholic like my mum who just drinks wen ever she wants.
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I hardly drink at all, like once every few months, even then it's only a bit of wine. I personally don't like the taste of alcohol.
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crimson tears wrote...
ok bs is stinking out the last post. and i always remember wot happend im just good at holding my drink i suppose
BS really.? i do blank out often so there is no use for me to drink. im more of the responsible driver who brings his friends home who are freaking drunk like hell. *i made a typo its 4-5 (last post)
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i dont like the taste of wine or beer so i just drink hard spirits like vodka jack daniels and so on. fair enough i respect you and your driving of drunks home but i usually manage to controll myself wen im drunk so im not going to say that i do things i regret whilst drunk that often.
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Fuck legal shit, I started drinking when I was 15 or 16, I don't remember. Like I always say, people are gonna do what they want when they want, so long as they have access to it. I'm for removing any kind of age restriction on drinking and smoking. Its all naive bullshit.
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ZiggyOtaku wrote...
I think if you're capable of voting for the leader of your country at 18 you should be capable of drinking a beer.If you don't agree with that, perhaps voting age should be higher.
You have a point (voting age should be higher)
Until you are into your twenties you don't know shit about shit and shouldn't be allowed to drink at all. The reason being is that while a few 18 year old kids may be responsible enough to do it. The vast majority are too stupid to do responsibly. A lot of adults get stupid when they are drunk so whats to prevent even dumber teens from doing it and causing even more trouble? Things such as drunken acts of violence (some drunks get emotional). Drunk driving (what will those darn kids do next). Here is a good one: Not knowing their limits and getting alcohol poisoning.
Scientifically it has already been proven that are brains keep developing until our twenties. Adding alcohol to that system is like hiring drunken construction workers. It just isn't going to be built correctly.
The only exemption to this rule is for military personnel. If you are man (or woman) enough to fight and die for your country then you are man (or woman) enough to have a drink. The military will give the people discipline to know when to stop drinking.
Though, lowering the drinking age will cause the stupid ones to die off. Either doing drunken acts of stupidity, alcohol poisoning, get heated then beating the shit out of one another.
Ah hell. I change my vote. Lower the drinking age to 15. Let the dumb underage fucks kill themselves off. Then the smart ones will survive and will drink when their brains are done developing. We need less stupid people in the world.
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harsh
yeah, it is something of an acquired taste.
M2991 wrote...
I hardly drink at all, like once every few months, even then it's only a bit of wine. I personally don't like the taste of alcohol.yeah, it is something of an acquired taste.
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Fiery_penguin_of_doom wrote...
ZiggyOtaku wrote...
I think if you're capable of voting for the leader of your country at 18 you should be capable of drinking a beer.If you don't agree with that, perhaps voting age should be higher.
You have a point (voting age should be higher)
Until you are into your twenties you don't know shit about shit and shouldn't be allowed to drink at all. The reason being is that while a few 18 year old kids may be responsible enough to do it. The vast majority are too stupid to do responsibly. A lot of adults get stupid when they are drunk so whats to prevent even dumber teens from doing it and causing even more trouble? Things such as drunken acts of violence (some drunks get emotional). Drunk driving (what will those darn kids do next). Here is a good one: Not knowing their limits and getting alcohol poisoning.
Scientifically it has already been proven that are brains keep developing until our twenties. Adding alcohol to that system is like hiring drunken construction workers. It just isn't going to be built correctly.
The only exemption to this rule is for military personnel. If you are man (or woman) enough to fight and die for your country then you are man (or woman) enough to have a drink. The military will give the people discipline to know when to stop drinking.
Though, lowering the drinking age will cause the stupid ones to die off. Either doing drunken acts of stupidity, alcohol poisoning, get heated then beating the shit out of one another.
Ah hell. I change my vote. Lower the drinking age to 15. Let the dumb underage fucks kill themselves off. Then the smart ones will survive and will drink when their brains are done developing. We need less stupid people in the world.
for once I entirely agree with you.