Tokyo Black Box Case.04 The Sadistic Professor's Case Report - Breaking the Rookie Female Investigator!
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MHM-Dono
Person Of Culture
2 years ago
Shimohara-sensei uses "Slow Burn" on this chapter. Personally, it's not very effective in holding my interest for much longer.
Hopefully next time, he/she will "Get On With It!"
Hopefully next time, he/she will "Get On With It!"
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2 years ago
Where is all the actual detective work?
In an isekai/RPG chapter, the characters usually go on some sort
of quest or adventure, during which they fight (or fuck) monsters,
in keeping with the fantasy theme. At the very least, they explore
the new world and familiarize themselves with its culture, society,
and sexual customs.
Why would a mangaka adopt the detective genre
without sending his characters out on cases, and
without offering challenging clues to the readers?
It's like a Western with no shootouts or showdowns---
with no outlaws and bounty hunters---with none of the
standard tropes and themes.
Shimohara is wasting a golden opportunity.
In an isekai/RPG chapter, the characters usually go on some sort
of quest or adventure, during which they fight (or fuck) monsters,
in keeping with the fantasy theme. At the very least, they explore
the new world and familiarize themselves with its culture, society,
and sexual customs.
Why would a mangaka adopt the detective genre
without sending his characters out on cases, and
without offering challenging clues to the readers?
It's like a Western with no shootouts or showdowns---
with no outlaws and bounty hunters---with none of the
standard tropes and themes.
Shimohara is wasting a golden opportunity.
Last Modified Sun Mar 20, 2022, 4:32 am
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YQII
FAKKU Translator
2 years ago
You can't really compare a fantasy setting to a regular occupation. I can't think of many chapters where you actually see the character do the job they're meant to do, outside of a few initial pages to set the stage. Just as an example, this kakao series comes to mind, which revolves around a candy maker, yet I'm pretty sure every single chapter takes place after work hours. Their job is mostly irrelevant to the plot.
This isn't a slice of life manga where they author explores a certain job or hobby; the focus of ero manga is the ero, whereas the setting is mainly an excuse to dress up the characters or give them interesting props to use. I did the afterword for an upcoming book recently where the author said they wanted to do more story stuff, but their editor told them they had to add more sex scenes instead. The expression "sex sells" is never truer than in this industry.
To me, this series is all about the relationship between two coworkers, and the kind of work isn't as relevant. I wouldn't mind seeing the story fleshed out with more detective stuff—although it'd probably be annoying having to look up a bunch of CSI jargon—but I wouldn't get my hopes up. Maybe if the series is very successful the author can be granted more leeway in the kind of content they put out, but until then I expect them to stick to what works: sex with a sprinkle of romance/character development.
This isn't a slice of life manga where they author explores a certain job or hobby; the focus of ero manga is the ero, whereas the setting is mainly an excuse to dress up the characters or give them interesting props to use. I did the afterword for an upcoming book recently where the author said they wanted to do more story stuff, but their editor told them they had to add more sex scenes instead. The expression "sex sells" is never truer than in this industry.
To me, this series is all about the relationship between two coworkers, and the kind of work isn't as relevant. I wouldn't mind seeing the story fleshed out with more detective stuff—although it'd probably be annoying having to look up a bunch of CSI jargon—but I wouldn't get my hopes up. Maybe if the series is very successful the author can be granted more leeway in the kind of content they put out, but until then I expect them to stick to what works: sex with a sprinkle of romance/character development.
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2 years ago
@YQII:
To support my argument, I encourage you to watch I, the Jury (1982),
a wildly entertaining detective movie, in which Armand Assante plays
a brutal, womanizing Mike Hammer. The film received a hard-R rating
for sex, nudity, and violence. It's so hot that it could easily be turned
into a porn flick (or a hentai series).
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/I, the Jury
To support my argument, I encourage you to watch I, the Jury (1982),
a wildly entertaining detective movie, in which Armand Assante plays
a brutal, womanizing Mike Hammer. The film received a hard-R rating
for sex, nudity, and violence. It's so hot that it could easily be turned
into a porn flick (or a hentai series).
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/I, the Jury
Last Modified Fri Apr 1, 2022, 7:25 pm
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engrishteacher
Zettai Ryoukai Kisser
2 years ago
I love FAKKU because of the thoughtful comment sections AND the ludicrously hot eroge. Thank you @YQII and @H-CONNOISSEUR AKA Ecchi-senpai. 🤓
Last Modified Wed Mar 23, 2022, 9:19 am
0
2 years ago
@YQII:
I appreciate your long, well-written reply, but I must disagree.
Within the realm of fiction, being a detective is not a "regular occupation,"
like being an OL, a teacher, or a candy-maker. It represents a major genre,
and there happens to be an important sub-genre:
the Pornographic Detective Story, which is extremely popular.
(Interestingly, Lesbian Detective Porn seems to be especially
popular. I used to work for a book distributor, and there were
days when it seemed like every other book that passed through
my hands was a lesbian detective novel.)
Beyond that, countless pornographic books have been written
in every major genre, including Horror, Sci-Fi, and Fantasy.
I respect Japanese editors because they put profitability
ahead of ideology, but that doesn't mean they're always
right. In this case, I think they're missing an opportunity.
Besides, there's always been a strong erotic streak in detective
fiction. Consider a mainstream classic like The Maltese Falcon.
The detective, Sam Spade, is a cynical, amoral horndog
who's fucking his partner's wife.
He's also fucking his client, Brigid O'Shaughnessy,
a murderous crook who uses sex as a tool.
Joel Cairo is a gay criminal who also uses sex as a tool.
Casper Gutman is a middle-aged criminal mastermind
who's involved in a homosexual relationship with his
twink/henchman, Wilmer Cook.
Plus, there seems to be some sort of relationship
between Joel and Wilmer.
And that's a non-pornographic book! The sexual element is even more
pronounced in books like the immensely popular Mike Hammer series.
So there's absolutely no reason why a good eromangaka can't include
a respectable detective story in a satisfyingly sexy chapter about
detectives. As engrishteacher notes, all you have to do is overlap the
sex with the detective work in a creative way.
I should note that American underground "comix" routinely combine
pornographic sex with strong, engrossing stories set within specific
genres, including the detective genre. It can be done!
I appreciate your long, well-written reply, but I must disagree.
Within the realm of fiction, being a detective is not a "regular occupation,"
like being an OL, a teacher, or a candy-maker. It represents a major genre,
and there happens to be an important sub-genre:
the Pornographic Detective Story, which is extremely popular.
(Interestingly, Lesbian Detective Porn seems to be especially
popular. I used to work for a book distributor, and there were
days when it seemed like every other book that passed through
my hands was a lesbian detective novel.)
Beyond that, countless pornographic books have been written
in every major genre, including Horror, Sci-Fi, and Fantasy.
I respect Japanese editors because they put profitability
ahead of ideology, but that doesn't mean they're always
right. In this case, I think they're missing an opportunity.
Besides, there's always been a strong erotic streak in detective
fiction. Consider a mainstream classic like The Maltese Falcon.
The detective, Sam Spade, is a cynical, amoral horndog
who's fucking his partner's wife.
He's also fucking his client, Brigid O'Shaughnessy,
a murderous crook who uses sex as a tool.
Joel Cairo is a gay criminal who also uses sex as a tool.
Casper Gutman is a middle-aged criminal mastermind
who's involved in a homosexual relationship with his
twink/henchman, Wilmer Cook.
Plus, there seems to be some sort of relationship
between Joel and Wilmer.
And that's a non-pornographic book! The sexual element is even more
pronounced in books like the immensely popular Mike Hammer series.
So there's absolutely no reason why a good eromangaka can't include
a respectable detective story in a satisfyingly sexy chapter about
detectives. As engrishteacher notes, all you have to do is overlap the
sex with the detective work in a creative way.
I should note that American underground "comix" routinely combine
pornographic sex with strong, engrossing stories set within specific
genres, including the detective genre. It can be done!
Last Modified Sun Mar 27, 2022, 7:00 am
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engrishteacher
Zettai Ryoukai Kisser
2 years ago
I, too, yearn for actual cases to be involved. I wish clues and data analysis was being performed amidst the provocative foreplay and betwixt the copious coitous. Ex: Professor has the police girl on all fours and is making her search for a case breaking clue in an a picture of evidence that everyone missed while he is teasing the fuck out of her.
Last Modified Sun Mar 20, 2022, 5:40 am
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2 years ago
@engrishteacher:
The Japanese have always been fond of Westerns, since they
see a strong similarity between the wandering gunslinger and
the wandering ronin, so I'm surprised we never see any hentai
set in the Old West. The possibilities are endless.
The Japanese have always been fond of Westerns, since they
see a strong similarity between the wandering gunslinger and
the wandering ronin, so I'm surprised we never see any hentai
set in the Old West. The possibilities are endless.
Last Modified Sun Mar 20, 2022, 11:21 am
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Yuridere
Loli Kami Guru
2 years ago
Another expert? Hmm, could it be the new girl? Maybe she'll have the same conditions and we get a yuri chapter next time.
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KagansBlood
Son of Kagan
2 years ago
I wonder if he’ll ever tell her the aphrodisiac is actually vitamin pills. Pavlov in action.
Last Modified Sat Mar 19, 2022, 4:39 pm
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