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Well you already said before that it was difficult so I'll just say that comment was kind of misleading.

Some places of worship are digital in the modern age, people pay respects of varying degrees and honesty through spreading and idolizing the feats of whoever is enshrined in the archives of the internet. It's nothing compared to the effort nor sanctity put into the worship of days past but the concept of renown and preserving one's legends is there.

I don't disagree with you, the modern world makes it difficult for extravagant tales to come by unmolested because the heroics have all but faded.

I'm wondering about that policy on weapons bearing souls though, because I'm referring to Muramasa and Masamune swords rather than the smiths and the legends behind them saying that they've gained sentience from absorbing the souls of the dead.

Well Simo Häyhä is considered the most successful sniper in history so that would be considered worship as well as novelty. The time period was during the Russian Winter War of 1939-1940, so it's not modern. In the Russian winter blanketed in snow he operated for 100 days behind enemy lines without being seen while keeping a consistent kill count, that's not something anybody can do even if they pulled a trigger for half their life. The Mosin–Nagant is one of the only rifles to operate flawlessly in that temperature for that lengthy operation time, so he couldn't have done it with any other gun given the time period. As Nasu said it himself, it's difficult not impossible.

So basically Nasu is saying Heroic Spirits in modern era will not be the soldier but rather the powerful modern weapon carried by the solider, something along the lines of a Gunmusu then. The problem with his statement is that anyone can become an expert with a gun, but what about a legend? A U.S. Marine can accrue the same amount of combat experience as a Spetsnatz with a gun but the Spetsnatz has an advantage because the training was more advanced and the psyche was significantly hardened, the Spetsnatz is more qualified to become a Heroic Spirit because he has a better aptitude than others already skilled in gun play and can better seize the moment to become a legend should it arise. This is applicable to the distinction between a famous mercenary and a renowned knight on the field of battle. I disagree with that approach because it feels like he greatly undervalues the rare accomplishments that one can do with the seemingly overpowered(or unromantic in this case) gun when Heroic Spirits have no problems countering guns, but he's the boss so eh.

I feel like guns can be justified but only if what the person did with that gun was REALLY amazing. For example, Simo Häyhä "The White Death" who had over 1000 confirmed kills over the course of 100 days(5 kills per day nonstop) by himself. He literally killed an entire battalion(over 100 men) by himself and was not spotted once. Even the reputed Russian sniper platoons sent after him came back in body bags. Eventually the Russian forces managed to find him and deal a supposedly lethal blow but days later he returned to friendly forces with half of his face missing. He's regarded by many as the most successful sniper in history. That's pretty impressive, even with modern technology most snipers in will usually average a dozen kills in a single operation and surviving with that count is another matter entirely.

Yeah someone has already done Genghis Khan, though they specified him as Archer so you can do his Rider class if you want.

I don't remember Ivan the Terrible being reputable for his skills with weaponry or magic so that's like half of the classes down, you would have to do something like Rider or Archer that epitomize on Noble Phantasms.

Russia's Ivan the Great-Terrible. Either him or Genghis Khan. Did someone turned him in yet?

Was trying to build him from what he was famous for but.. eh. True he may have used guns as he had a government post before he rebelled. He could've had a saber and a pistol at the time since that was standard issue.

A reason why I didn't use Urduja and other Philippine legend is that they're loosely related to another country's folklore. One in particular is the story of malakas and maganda who was said to be born from bamboo - this.. was one of the reasons why I shy away from that. Another was that it's rather hard to back up their traits as heroic legends before the spanish era is really more of communal rumors.

Anyways, can Ivan count? If he does, I call dibs.

Far as I know he's the only one who pulled it off. You don't pull an 85-year revolt and force the enemy into outnumbering you considering the technology at the time. I could say those is why his revolt became a legend. Plus the fact that instead of dispersing when the head is gone, they remained and remembered their cause for so long - Iskandar's army didn't even did that and they're superior in battle experience too. It was basically a long-held legacy that made him a legend. That's why I turned him into a tank since he's about endurance.

Fransico Dagohoy: Saber class

Strength: A
Endurance: A+++
Agility: B+
Mana: B
Luck: D

Personal Skills:
Bravery: A+
Charisma: A
Demonic Defender: EX
Knowledge of respect and harmony: B

Noble Phantasm:

Call to arms Anti-unit[A+]: In tandem with Demonic defender, the NP summons fighters by using prana. Their combat capacity is heavily influenced by his personal skill so much that it requires the master full knowledge of the leylines.

Blood of rebellion Anti-army[EX]: If he is killed in battle, he is then replaced by two more heroes(with different classes) and if said two is killed four will replace them and so on until the count reaches 30,000 which is by then the opponent is transferred to a mountain where all the previously killed heroes are waiting. Failure to destroy the fort and kill 30,000 will be locked inside and be drained of their prana.



Now then, it may look OP but it's not. See, the guy's rebellion lasted for 85 years, continued by relatives and by the people he incited to rebel. The reason why he rebelled in the first place is that his brother didn't get buried properly by the church and was buried by Dagohoy which is why the second NP divides when killed. His blood is his own weapon and as for the first one is restricted to the territory so it's not that bad... I think.

So UBW is out, we're not necro'ing this? Prisma Ilya totally destroyed that "thor's no hero" now for some damn reason. Anyway, got a historic hero you can turn into a servant?

Lucky you. I love snow, but in Georgia it only happens like once or twice a year, and when it does people freak out like its the apocalypse because the power might go out for a day Or something but I've never had that happen to me.