Feminism is a movement of equality and tolerance :)

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Renovartio wrote...
Ok guys I'm up for actual talk right now. Anyone up for an actual conversation?


tell about you being rational with your hatred of crazy feminists
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opanihuya wrote...
Renovartio wrote...
Ok guys I'm up for actual talk right now. Anyone up for an actual conversation?


tell about you being rational with your hatred of crazy feminists


hmmm well it's mostly me thrashing out emotionally because of my empathy for the other people being mistreated. I believe in equality and think both sexes should have equal rights. I also think men and women should be treated the way they want to be treated. However claiming that one side is more important (or rather their issues) than the other and still claims it's about equality is not rational.

How can people throw out such overly biased opinions and not expect to be disliked? Especially if the one being ignored has an actual reason for their belief/ way of thinking. Having your opinion disregarded off hand for superficial reasons will upset anyone.
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Renovartio wrote...
opanihuya wrote...
Renovartio wrote...
Ok guys I'm up for actual talk right now. Anyone up for an actual conversation?


tell about you being rational with your hatred of crazy feminists


hmmm well it's mostly me thrashing out emotionally because of my empathy for the other people being mistreated. I believe in equality and think both sexes should have equal rights. I also think men and women should be treated the way they want to be treated. However claiming that one side is more important (or rather their issues) than the other and still claims it's about equality is not rational.

How can people throw out such overly biased opinions and not expect to be disliked? Especially if the one being ignored has an actual reason for their belief/ way of thinking. Having your opinion disregarded off hand for superficial reasons will upset anyone.


oh so that's what you meant about being rational, i thought you somehow came into terms with your hatred.

well it isn't called egalitarianism for a reason but I wonder more about why do they get more popularity than the other. media? charismatic figures? or is everything equal enough so egalitarians are not as loud? I wonder what feminists say if you ask them why they're not egalitarian?

though being honest, I don't need to be a part of feminism or egalitarianism to treat both sexes with respect. this reminds me of all the religious debates i had before and what i learned from them is that unless one side accepts the shortcomings of the other there won't be any understanding. as i told you before, crash a plane on a deserted island with three feminists and yourself, what would be left of their feminism and your frustration. Imo it's not even about genders, it's about egoism.

It's not to say that I don't get you and the stuff that happened in your life (that's why I try to put everywhere "Imo"s and "I guess"s when I remember). as you can see i'm pretty biased as well
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well yeah

I noticed I've been ranting about it for a good part of the past year

it's not like I actually hate all people who identify as feminists

I'm not one to side with a group so steep in politics

well I always see my own life as lesser than others so most of my emotions are stemmed through my empathy of other peoples problems.
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Renovartio wrote...
well yeah

I noticed I've been ranting about it for a good part of the past year

it's not like I actually hate all people who identify as feminists

I'm not one to side with a group so steep in politics

well I always see my own life as lesser than others so most of my emotions are stemmed through my empathy of other peoples problems.


that you were

no dude, it's your right to have disdain for their beliefs, and for the ones who take them to an unreasonable level.

i don't see a problem with them being steep in politics, if they achieve at least something with it. but i don't feel like siding with any activist groups you know

that's pretty cool bro. bet you could make a feminist say that if you had a feelsy talk with her.
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opanihuya wrote...
Renovartio wrote...
well yeah

I noticed I've been ranting about it for a good part of the past year

it's not like I actually hate all people who identify as feminists

I'm not one to side with a group so steep in politics

well I always see my own life as lesser than others so most of my emotions are stemmed through my empathy of other peoples problems.


that you were

no dude, it's your right to have disdain for their beliefs, and for the ones who take them to an unreasonable level.

i don't see a problem with them being steep in politics, if they achieve at least something with it. but i don't feel like siding with any activist groups you know

that's pretty cool bro. bet you could make a feminist say that if you had a feelsy talk with her.


I actually can get anyone to listen to me if I get in the right mood (especially in person)

it's just that lately with the whole gamergate thing and the constant shit from the mass media

I've been in a bad state of mind when it comes to fem-topics

even now I can feel it coming over me like a wave

it's easy to give into the hate
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Renovartio wrote...
opanihuya wrote...
Renovartio wrote...
well yeah

I noticed I've been ranting about it for a good part of the past year

it's not like I actually hate all people who identify as feminists

I'm not one to side with a group so steep in politics

well I always see my own life as lesser than others so most of my emotions are stemmed through my empathy of other peoples problems.


that you were

no dude, it's your right to have disdain for their beliefs, and for the ones who take them to an unreasonable level.

i don't see a problem with them being steep in politics, if they achieve at least something with it. but i don't feel like siding with any activist groups you know

that's pretty cool bro. bet you could make a feminist say that if you had a feelsy talk with her.


I actually can get anyone to listen to me if I get in the right mood (especially in person)

it's just that lately with the whole gamergate thing and the constant shit from the mass media

I've been in a bad state of mind when it comes to fem-topics

even now I can feel it coming over me like a wave

it's easy to give into the hate


you're so cool bro. I can do it only on the internet.

and your truth i guess, can't relate much for lack of shit in my life/social justice in my town.
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well I live in Hawaii so....

actually my mom seems to be highly affected by it. but it's whatever really.





well it might be overstating if I said I can get anyone to listen

it just seems to me that people are willing to talk to me about random stuff when I try to find out these things.

as my auntie calls it

the gift of gab

also

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iEsMCSGBjCI&list=PLytTJqkSQqtr7BqC1Jf4nv3g2yDfu7Xmd
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Renovartio wrote...
well I live in Hawaii so....

actually my mom seems to be highly affected by it. but it's whatever really.





well it might be overstating if I said I can get anyone to listen

it just seems to me that people are willing to talk to me about random stuff when I try to find out these things.

as my auntie calls it

the gift of gab

also

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iEsMCSGBjCI&list=PLytTJqkSQqtr7BqC1Jf4nv3g2yDfu7Xmd


ain't watching that
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opanihuya wrote...
Renovartio wrote...
well I live in Hawaii so....

actually my mom seems to be highly affected by it. but it's whatever really.





well it might be overstating if I said I can get anyone to listen

it just seems to me that people are willing to talk to me about random stuff when I try to find out these things.

as my auntie calls it

the gift of gab

also

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iEsMCSGBjCI&list=PLytTJqkSQqtr7BqC1Jf4nv3g2yDfu7Xmd


ain't watching that


reason?
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Renovartio wrote...
opanihuya wrote...
Renovartio wrote...
well I live in Hawaii so....

actually my mom seems to be highly affected by it. but it's whatever really.





well it might be overstating if I said I can get anyone to listen

it just seems to me that people are willing to talk to me about random stuff when I try to find out these things.

as my auntie calls it

the gift of gab

also

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iEsMCSGBjCI&list=PLytTJqkSQqtr7BqC1Jf4nv3g2yDfu7Xmd


ain't watching that


reason?


idk it's like celebrity press. was there anything educational or funny in it?
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opanihuya wrote...
Renovartio wrote...
opanihuya wrote...
Renovartio wrote...
well I live in Hawaii so....

actually my mom seems to be highly affected by it. but it's whatever really.





well it might be overstating if I said I can get anyone to listen

it just seems to me that people are willing to talk to me about random stuff when I try to find out these things.

as my auntie calls it

the gift of gab

also

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iEsMCSGBjCI&list=PLytTJqkSQqtr7BqC1Jf4nv3g2yDfu7Xmd


ain't watching that


reason?


idk it's like celebrity press. was there anything educational or funny in it?


yes
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Renovartio wrote...
opanihuya wrote...
Renovartio wrote...
opanihuya wrote...
Renovartio wrote...
well I live in Hawaii so....

actually my mom seems to be highly affected by it. but it's whatever really.





well it might be overstating if I said I can get anyone to listen

it just seems to me that people are willing to talk to me about random stuff when I try to find out these things.

as my auntie calls it

the gift of gab

also

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iEsMCSGBjCI&list=PLytTJqkSQqtr7BqC1Jf4nv3g2yDfu7Xmd


ain't watching that


reason?


idk it's like celebrity press. was there anything educational or funny in it?


yes


ORLY? taking your word for it...

edit

read the transcript and nothing of value was gained
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new page bump
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especially the last phrase: "2014–15 could be the year the freedom dies"

well isn't that exciting? ^___^
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That's probably true... but sometimes you hear some pretty radical things associated with feminism that make you wonder if there isn't a small faction of the movement somewhere that are more extremists...
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I'm not against strong women...

FUCK TUMBLR
you're all frickin crazies