Feminism is a movement of equality and tolerance :)

Yes, it was a joke on his expense.


There is absolutely a concrete definition of what makes a feminist. The one I posted. However, as with any "ism" there are countless derivatives from the core point. See liberalism for example: anarcho/social/economic/religious/secular liberalism, along with radicalism, capitalistic liberalism, paeloliberalism etc.
All share the liberalistic core point of view(Freedom) but differ on key elements. The second an ism stops being about "freedom-of" it's no longer liberalism.

Same with feminism. The second it stops being about equal rights it's no longer feminism.

... Crystals.... EVERYONE KNOWS NOT TO MIX BLEACH AND AMMONIA.

Why do you keep replying to me if you know that I don't give a shit about what you say?

I already stated that I have a reason for thinking the way I do and nothing you say will change my mind. Why do you even care?

Domestic Violence should not be a gender issue, and shame on anyone who believes that. That was my point. You're not going to help anyone by implying it's a women's issue because you're not only ignoring men who are victims, but you're also making them out to be the only aggressors/perpetrators. It is a complex issue which is why I disagreed with you.

As for gender gap yes there are proven cases of people paying women less because they can or any other reason, but not every case is not because of sexism, and women being payed less in general isn't a result of that. You are right, just like most issues of inequality, there's a lot more to it.

http://www.nytimes.com/2014/04/24/upshot/the-pay-gap-is-because-of-gender-not-jobs.html?_r=0




Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

Also you having a degree in Journalism isn't going to make me agree with you more, nor does it make you a sociology expert. As far as I'm concern some portrayals of women(and men) that I might find to be inconsequential might be harmful and evil in your eyes.


@Chlor
No True Scotsman Fallacy.

Also no there isn't a concrete definition. Nor is there a set condition for equality. Anyone can say that bringing up artifical quotas is true equality.(by anyone I mean SJW's and feminist in general) I say it isn't and can potentially be more harmful than good. Neither of us are right or wrong.

Also for liberalism, it's completely different here in the States. There's a very small emphasis on personal rights and civil liberties, and has become more of a "Socialism-lite" group.

Sorry, I didn't intend to frame domestic violence as exclusively a women's issue. I'd raised it in passing as there's a demonstrable disparity which hints at wider problems. And I agree the issue of pay is also clouded. What I've been trying to get at in all of these posts is that one example of embellishment or video of feminists acting badly does not mean that there is no problem and they have no argument. There is no type of person I dislike more than the one who refuses to argue, on the grounds that they are certain they're right.

You're right, classic appeal to authority, and media institutions and climates differ from nation to nation. Living in the UK, with tabloid and celebrity culture, Page 3, the Daily Mail et al, and having studied and critiqued examples across several years, I think I have a strong case. I could take an example from the Mail today, of new female cabinet ministers being arranged in a 'catwalk' lineup and critiqued on personal appearance. But again, it's complex, and I wouldn't presume to impose that opinion on anyone.

Has a thread ever been moved from IB to SD?

Probably go to other side of the island. I'd stay if they didn't act stupid but that's highly doubtful

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You guys don't seem to understand. I have reasons why I don't like feminism. However that does not mean I am willing to waste my time explain to you guys why that is so. I'm just saying the way I feel and I don't really care what you guys have to sa. I have already stated what kind three types of I believe there is that is not radical.

most people I know generally seem to understand that feminism is not about equality. or at least the one that is published in the general media.

you might say that I'm cherry-picking the videos I am posting but what else do you expect I'm trying to show you guys how I think about the subject.

>This entire discussion is worth something.

usually don't get moved to SD. it usually just get deleted or locked

Those aren't Feminists, those are psychopaths. Learn to notice the [sarcasm]subtle[/sarcasm] nuances between the two.

Thanks!

Still a mental disease nonetheless.

You're either trolling or an idiot.
Either way - die in a fire.

Sorry dear, but I should be telling you that.

That comeback was the equivalent of "No YOU"

You cannot even read? Were you too busy sucking the English teachers cock in high school that you never studied?

This thread turned out great.

Tumblr officially changed the meaning of the word feminist into female supremacist. Women like Anita Sarkeesian are paid thousands of dollars to be professional victims.

"You are magically no longer part of my infallible and righteous club anymore because you made us look bad!"

No, they're still feminist.

>Claims there is a difference between feminists and psychopaths
>Wishes someone who disagrees with her would die in a fire

No, they fundamentally misunderstand the principle of Feminism. Therefore, they are not feminists. They're wailing harpies waving signs.