[Locked] Jacob is a huge jerk.

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Minikai Play Umineko :)
I've visited ExHentai on a regular basis for several years now, and during my times there's I've discovered and held an interest in hundreds of artists. The recent happenings between Jacob and Exhentai has affected, at most, a mere 1% of all my stuff; so for the most part, what's happened has mostly done nothing to me. And I don't personally care either way. In fact, I save just about everything I really like, so even those that got taken down, I still have.

Be that as it may, you have to be able to look at this from the other side to understand why the majority of the community is in a complete uproar. While there is admittedly a large chunk that are just upset because it means they won't get their free doujins in such an easily accessible way anymore, let's set that group aside and look at the other factors involved that are upsetting people.

First: The markup. Fakku is, for all intents and purposes, a business. The goal of a business, is profit. People get that. What people don't get is why Jacob and co. has the prices of whatever it is they're trying to sell marked up so significantly that it's like you're trying to gouge their wallets. For a large majority of doujinshi that one could buy at an event such as Comiket, the cost for a single work is usually around ¥500-¥750 (that's about $4.90-$7.30 at current exchange rates). Take that same book, and grab it from Fakku's Store and the cost is, on average, around $30 (or about ¥3050). That's practically a 500% markup! Well, it's understandable that some works may be part of an anthology (such as, for example, Wanimagazine, so they would get royalties on applicable titles), and that of course, being a business, Fakku would need to somehow profit off each sale as well, since they're the middleman between the consumer and the artist, but really now. Nearly five-hundred percent? Why so much?


Second: It's redundant. This is the internet; try as hard as you might, you cannot erase things as easily as you may think. Every single work that was taken down, and every single work that has yet to even be released that is on Fakku's hit list, is not going anywhere. They will be available in some form, somewhere, at all times, for free, and it just simply is not something that Fakku can do something about. You've removed series A from website B? Well that's okay, because now there's websites C and D! Oh, you banned series X from website Y? Guess we'll go try out that new website Z that just started up. You get the idea. So the question then becomes why bother? All you do by pursuing this is piss off the masses who in turn, as you've seen, lash back.


Third: Jacob's apparent attitude on the whole issue. In light of recent events he's given off this image that he just doesn't give a flying fuck about the world outside of Fakku. He knows that doing this creates a burden and great inconvenience upon hundreds of thousands of people who were using the Exhentai website. Instead of being empathetic and humble, and saying that he's sorry for the inconveniences that he's causing, but that business is business, he instead does really stupid shit like going to 4chan and purposefully trying to pick fights with people. What did that accomplish? The answer is nothing, unless your goal was to intentionally piss people off, which if it was, then congrats, you definitely succeeded there. If I'm wrong though, then by all means explain it.



There's more that could be done like Jacob and Tenboro both clarifying their sides of the story with proof of involvement or non-involvement (Jacob can claim to not be involved in this, but I can also claim that I've discovered the cure to cancer; doesn't necessarily make it true). Both parties involved need to be more open with the public on what the series of events has been, or shit like this is just going to continue to fester and build up, and it will eventually reach a tipping point where something bad might happen.

Like I said before, this change barely affects me, but it does affect a lot of other people, and if people remain ignorant to both sides of the argument, nothing is going to be solved.
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I had to drop everything I was doing just to watch /a/ why the hell they didn't save their waifus to their computers is beyond me. There was even several months worth of notice from announcement of Wani.

It all came down to the laziness on people's part which meant they didn't really loved their waifus that much!

I am kinda worried for jacob but this is the first time chan tore up when govt had no effect on them whatsoever. And here I really thought nothing would happen at all.

Because it was so calm until last night lol

Positive side of this is that it might meant some really hard to acquire doujinshis might finally be seen in the west. Like, Planet of the Cat!
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yusonames wrote...
do you honestly think people are going to pay 30 usd for 24 page uncensored books?


Yes, and they will like it.
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Gorgutz wrote...
Codine wrote...
I'm angry about this because I never use fakku anymore.


Nobody does. It's like the ZSNES of chinese cartoons.


Woah there, ZNES is the shit, fuck you and fuck your opinion of SNES emulators!
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Cruz Dope Stone Lion
Minikai wrote...


going to 4chan and purposefully trying to pick fights with people

There's more that could be done like Jacob and Tenboro both clarifying their sides of the story with proof of involvement or non-involvement (Jacob can claim to not be involved in this, but I can also claim that I've discovered the cure to cancer; doesn't necessarily make it true). Both parties involved need to be more open with the public on what the series of events has been, or shit like this is just going to continue to fester and build up, and it will eventually reach a tipping point where something bad might happen.

Like I said before, this change barely affects me, but it does affect a lot of other people, and if people remain ignorant to both sides of the argument, nothing is going to be solved.


I agree with most of your points, but that picture doesn't seem like he's trying to "start" something. He's just clarifying what he did and providing proof. Tenboro has not said a thing after that either, food for thought.


Shikinokami wrote...
Yes, and they will like it.


You're a fucking moron. Get out Solid.
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browsing_fakku_atm wrote...
Gorgutz wrote...
Codine wrote...
I'm angry about this because I never use fakku anymore.


Nobody does. It's like the ZSNES of chinese cartoons.


Woah there, ZNES is the shit, fuck you and fuck your opinion of SNES emulators!


Visual Boy Advance and DeSmuMe master race.
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Shikinokami wrote...
browsing_fakku_atm wrote...
Gorgutz wrote...
Codine wrote...
I'm angry about this because I never use fakku anymore.


Nobody does. It's like the ZSNES of chinese cartoons.


Woah there, ZNES is the shit, fuck you and fuck your opinion of SNES emulators!


Visual Boy Advance and DeSmuMe master race.


Dude, those aren't even SNES emulators. Thats like comparing an xbox to a colecovision. Those are good emulators though.
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browsing_fakku_atm wrote...
Shikinokami wrote...
browsing_fakku_atm wrote...
Gorgutz wrote...
Codine wrote...
I'm angry about this because I never use fakku anymore.


Nobody does. It's like the ZSNES of chinese cartoons.


Woah there, ZNES is the shit, fuck you and fuck your opinion of SNES emulators!


Visual Boy Advance and DeSmuMe master race.


Dude, those aren't even SNES emulators. Thats like comparing an xbox to a colecovision. Those are good emulators though.


I know they aren't. Speaking of SNES, I started playing Chrono Triggers DS version but never had the time to finish it.

Any game you'd recommend?
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Shikinokami wrote...
browsing_fakku_atm wrote...
Shikinokami wrote...
browsing_fakku_atm wrote...
Gorgutz wrote...
Codine wrote...
I'm angry about this because I never use fakku anymore.


Nobody does. It's like the ZSNES of chinese cartoons.


Woah there, ZNES is the shit, fuck you and fuck your opinion of SNES emulators!


Visual Boy Advance and DeSmuMe master race.


Dude, those aren't even SNES emulators. Thats like comparing an xbox to a colecovision. Those are good emulators though.


I know they aren't. Speaking of SNES, I started playing Chrono Triggers DS version but never had the time to finish it.

Any game you'd recommend?


I'm from the 90s so I know my shit. Aside from all the well known stuff, Mario/DKC/FF/MK/MegaMan/Castlevania series, here's some games off the top of my head I'd recommend:

E.V.O . Search for Eden - Side Scrolling level up kinda game
Illusion of Gaia - JRPG
Hagane - Sidescrolling fighter
Bahamut lagoon - Not well known RPG released by Square Enix
Kirby's Dream land - Its Kirby, you should know what Kirby is
loony tunes B-ball - Sounds lame, really fun basketball game from the 90s
Secret of Mana - RPG
Tales of Phantasia - RPG
Star Ocean - FUCKING AMAZING JRPG
U.N. Squadron - Sidescroller shoot em up
Zombies Ate My neighbors - Retro shooting game, WITH ZOMBIES!
Breathe of Fire - RPG
Chrono Trigger - RPG
Gradius 1/2/3 - Sidescroller shoot em up
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browsing_fakku_atm wrote...
Shikinokami wrote...
browsing_fakku_atm wrote...
Shikinokami wrote...
browsing_fakku_atm wrote...
Gorgutz wrote...
Codine wrote...
I'm angry about this because I never use fakku anymore.


Nobody does. It's like the ZSNES of chinese cartoons.


Woah there, ZNES is the shit, fuck you and fuck your opinion of SNES emulators!


Visual Boy Advance and DeSmuMe master race.


Dude, those aren't even SNES emulators. Thats like comparing an xbox to a colecovision. Those are good emulators though.


I know they aren't. Speaking of SNES, I started playing Chrono Triggers DS version but never had the time to finish it.

Any game you'd recommend?


I'm from the 90s so I know my shit. Aside from all the well known stuff, Mario/DKC/FF/MK/MegaMan/Castlevania series, here's some games off the top of my head I'd recommend:

E.V.O . Search for Eden - Side Scrolling level up kinda game
Illusion of Gaia - JRPG
Hagane - Sidescrolling fighter
Bahamut lagoon - Not well known RPG released by Square Enix
Kirby's Dream land - Its Kirby, you should know what Kirby is
loony tunes B-ball - Sounds lame, really fun basketball game from the 90s
Secret of Mana - RPG
Tales of Phantasia - RPG
Star Ocean - FUCKING AMAZING JRPG
U.N. Squadron - Sidescroller shoot em up
Zombies Ate My neighbors - Retro shooting game, WITH ZOMBIES!
Breathe of Fire - RPG
Chrono Trigger - RPG
Gradius 1/2/3 - Sidescroller shoot em up


I'll now go download

E.V.O . Search for Eden - Side Scrolling level up kinda game
Illusion of Gaia - JRPG
Hagane - Sidescrolling fighter
Bahamut lagoon - Not well known RPG released by Square Enix
Secret of Mana - RPG
Tales of Phantasia - RPG
Star Ocean - FUCKING AMAZING JRPG


Thanks for sharing, man.
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Minikai wrote...
First: The markup. Fakku is, for all intents and purposes, a business. The goal of a business, is profit. People get that. What people don't get is why Jacob and co. has the prices of whatever it is they're trying to sell marked up so significantly that it's like you're trying to gouge their wallets. For a large majority of doujinshi that one could buy at an event such as Comiket, the cost for a single work is usually around ¥500-¥750 (that's about $4.90-$7.30 at current exchange rates). Take that same book, and grab it from Fakku's Store and the cost is, on average, around $30 (or about ¥3050).


Those works are untranslated; Jacob needs to pay staff in order to translate the works themselves, along with an editor, you also need a typesetter and a translator. In addition to that, the artist requires a certain amount and Wani requires an amount as well. You'll probably find that Fakku really isn't making a ton of money off of the books.
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Well uh the manga I buy in usa is like 9$-15$ per volume.

But if I was to buy them in Japan they will be 5$.

Problem is, USA big place, bookstores all over the continent while bookstores in japan is close to each other. So that partially pushed the price up.

But I will never buy a digital manga without a way to download it anymore REMEMBER JMANGA FAGGOTS! THEY GUYS STOLE MY MANGA AND RAN AWAY!

Seriously fuck jmanga, they advertised shuffle! manga but never published it. Jmanga fagets rather publish yaoi.
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devsonfire 3,000,000th Poster
FINALLY! Someone who actually thinks it through, not just spouting nonsense!

Minikai wrote...
First: The markup. Fakku is, for all intents and purposes, a business. The goal of a business, is profit. People get that. What people don't get is why Jacob and co. has the prices of whatever it is they're trying to sell marked up so significantly that it's like you're trying to gouge their wallets. For a large majority of doujinshi that one could buy at an event such as Comiket, the cost for a single work is usually around ¥500-¥750 (that's about $4.90-$7.30 at current exchange rates). Take that same book, and grab it from Fakku's Store and the cost is, on average, around $30 (or about ¥3050). That's practically a 500% markup! Well, it's understandable that some works may be part of an anthology (such as, for example, Wanimagazine, so they would get royalties on applicable titles), and that of course, being a business, Fakku would need to somehow profit off each sale as well, since they're the middleman between the consumer and the artist, but really now. Nearly five-hundred percent? Why so much?


The thing is, the cost of labor and manufacturing overhead in Japan are lower (not sure by how much, but I'm sure it's pretty significant) than in the States.

This includes translating, printing, storing, etc. That is why you have stuff that are much cheaper in Japan compared to the States. Granted, it's a bit of a hike, but once people understand that there are a lot of things that are involved, none would dare to say anything about it.

I agree with you for the rest of it. Giving down DMCA notices will not solve anything. Seriously, the internet, and hoping people to stop here? Someone has to be so naive.
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Antw0n Remember me?
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Pyre wrote...
Jacob is the third coming of the Antichrist.


No that's me.
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Shikinokami wrote...
yusonames wrote...
do you honestly think people are going to pay 30 usd for 24 page uncensored books?


Yes, and they will like it.


If you've been to a convention, you will see how the booths that sell doujins are always swarmed, and those aren't even translated.

People can and already have bought doujins at massively inflated prices, even with the censor. So being able to get official releases uncensored is the cherry on top.
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Also, this fuels my dick.

This is Jacob right now. Forum Image: http://puu.sh/ar5Oh/c6be8c9d3c.gif
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Antw0n wrote...
Forum Image: http://puu.sh/ar4GX/9a75ebb09f.png

[size=10]drawing is fun[/h]



Is this going to be the spiritual sequel to Adventures of Antwon?
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Antw0n Remember me?
TheSTFUppercut wrote...
Antw0n wrote...
Spoiler:
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[size=10]drawing is fun[/h]



Is this going to be the spiritual sequel to Adventures of Antwon?


It'd be neat to make an AoT parody comic about all this but I won't.
That's the last one I'm doing.