Make Marijuana Legal?

Should Pot be legalized?

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You could make that same argument with gay marriage. "Oh sure now homosexuals want to get married but what's next?!?! marrying animals or inanimate objects? When does it end?" People assume that because they are gay they also want to be able to marry their cats, which isn't an assumption that should be made. My point: it's a very poor argument to make. you cannot assume that because a group of people want something legalized that they will take it to the extreme.

Secondly, most people who use marijuana do not use heroin or cocaine. The common misconception is that marijuana leads using more dangerous drugs. The only reason one could ever say that is because heroin junkies happen to also smoke. But as we all know - correlation does not prove causation. Shit, the anti-drug corporations that put out those shitty ads know that people aren't buying their bullshit. The population does buy that smoking a joint will lead to you sticking needles in your arm.

Thirdly, what gives you a right to tell other people how they live their lives? Does it threaten your way of life at all?!?!?! I don't go around complaining about how other people beat off to furries. Why should it bother you if marijuana is legalized? That only gives you more of a chance getting a decent job.
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mGARANDEUR1 wrote...

Secondly, most people who use marijuana do not use heroin or cocaine. The common misconception is that marijuana leads using more dangerous drugs. The only reason one could ever say that is because heroin junkies happen to also smoke. But as we all know - correlation does not prove causation. Shit, the anti-drug corporations that put out those shitty ads know that people aren't buying their bullshit. The population does buy that smoking a joint will lead to you sticking needles in your arm.



Hmm, every person I've known that was into drugs like heroine, cocaine, ex, etc,(which sadly is far too many) all started with pot and swore they would never do anything "harder" then pot. The majority of them got into other drugs because of people they met through their pot use. Of course there's no way to prove they wouldn't have gotten into the stuff either way, but pot certainly played a major role in it. I think there is quite a bit of truth to the whole "gateway drug" theory, although that doesn't mean all pot smokers will get into other drugs.
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Yeah but if it was legal would they have started using heroin? I dated this girl who would go out to bars and get hammered (one time thrown out for puking). Of course she hated that I smoked every once a couple months. Of course she was doing a lot more damage to her body than I was. I guess it's all perspective. Lets put it this way: more people have died from staying up playing to much videos games than from smoking weed. You can't tell me that pounding back red bulls while pulling all nighters is good for you.

Again, I ask the question: "what difference does it make to you what I do to my body?"
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it has so many more benefits in medical than pills. but if it was completely legal i think that would still have its cons. i think they should just decriminalize it cause being a pill head is far worse than a cheef head
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Like I said, I think drugs are for the weak minded. Seriously, we have proven them to be harmful to your body. The government locks them down because it is no longer something that just hurts adults--children, teenagers are beginning to do this. And at that early stage of life, where their brains are still developing, an inhaled hallucinogen is all it takes to screw up their mind for the remainder of their life. No one is preventing you from doing the drugs once you have them. Go ahead--it's your body. The problem is, it isn't just THEIR body anymore. Rappers and other retards like those brag that doing drugs makes you cool. Honestly, those guys deserve some blunt. I'm sorry, I meant to say blunt-force trauma. To the head. They are the drop of poison in the pool of youth--the corrupting agent slowly killing-off our minors. Drugs are only going to cause problems. Not only should marijuana NOT be legalized, there should be harsher punishments for it.
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Who said marijuana was a drug? You have obviously never smoked it, how would you know what its like? Teenagers are going to smoke no matter how much they get told not to, they always will. Marijuana separates those who are weak from those who pull though and get their work done. I don't care who you know who has had their life fucked up. The reason they became addicted to drugs was because they were fucking weak. That's right, WEAK.

Everyone out there smoking weed fully understands the consequences and yet more and more people are doing it. You can't justify that it is ruining kids lives. The only way it is ruining their lives is because they are either lazy, or they are getting arrested for it. Lawmakers that think like you do are ruining their lives by keeping it illegal.

Students are getting arrested for smoking weed in the little free time they have. They get thrown in prison with rapist and murders. Smart people get their lives ruined because of the retarded laws in place FOR FUCKING SMOKING A NATURALLY OCCURRING PLANT!!!!

I think people should take a US history course. You might make the connection that because the probation of alcohol didn't work, neither will weed. Marijuana is even easier to make than alcohol.
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decriminalize it, but don't legalize it.
then to prove we don't have a double standard, delegalize cigarettes.
that shit ain't good for us.
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I think if the goverment legalize it and they can control it's production and cut out all the crap for sale and dealer who try to under sell you... jerks! But if the government controls production and sale of marijuana it would take care of most of the problemes surrounding marijuana.
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It should be treated just like any other crop. The government shouldn't be able to regulate it just like they shouldn't be able to regulate my tomato plants.
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Marijuana DOES ruin peoples lives. See, the thing is, it isn't smart people getting their lives ruined by cops. There aren't any smart potheads. They're all morons, and they all need to get over it. And it isn't the weak who get addicted--it's being human. It's having a body. Your body becomes used to the chemicals, and develops a physical need for it. It has NOTHING to do with being weak. Marijuana is illegal for one simple reason--it's dangerous. An inhalant AND a hallucinogen--NOT a winning combination. It goes straight to your brain and IMMEDIATELY begins killing brain cells. On top of that, it fucks with your nerves, your vision, and can permanently damage your body. So don't pull this, "Marijuana should be legal" bullshit on us. America is protecting its citizens by keeping that shit down. It's fucking stupid potheads who think they can trick the intelligent people into legalizing the damn stuff by claiming "it's only bad because it's illegal." Give me a fucking break. We aren't dumb. The damn stuff is illegal. Get the fuck over it. Honestly, mRFAGTARD, if you try calling the addicts weak, look at yourself--you're in here trying to pull some bullshit about you being a strong pothead. NO ONE IS BUYING IT. If your a pothead, you're an idiot. Just face it. You can be the strongest pothead, maybe even the smartest pothead, but in the end you're just the strongest or smartest moron.

mGARANDEUR1 wrote...
It should be treated just like any other crop. The government shouldn't be able to regulate it just like they shouldn't be able to regulate my tomato plants.


Tomatoes aren't out there killing brain cells, funding gangs, ruining lives.
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Noutakun wrote...

Tomatoes aren't out there killing brain cells, funding gangs, ruining lives.



I've seen some pretty bad tomatoes in my day you should always have your guard up against any fruit. Honestly pot is a minor drug compared to crystal meth and smack but it is still a drug. If it was legalized and regulated it I believe it would loose its "cool" factor and would become a little less popular. In Nevada pot is a joke, if the cops find some on you they usually take it with no criminal charges brought against you. This is another reason why I think it should be legal so or police forces can stop wasting their time on it and so we can finally put a tax on the stuff and have the American economy get a lift from it rather than just the drug lords of Mexico.
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Marijuana separates those who are weak from those who pull though and get their work done.


Yes I see were your getting at exactly. Your weak because you do Marijuana and every one else is pulling through life and getting some good hard work done. mFAGDEUR0 you call your self a smart pot-head yet you have -11 rep. Really a smart person would have realized that he/she is doing something wrong. Everyone back in High School who did weed (even my water-polo coach and he was also my English teacher)were a little how should I say this, on the slow side. These people are got caught selling it in class right next to the teacher. They were pretty dumb in my book. Really it was only them who would defend it. There were other dumb people
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Noutakun wrote...
Marijuana DOES ruin peoples lives. See, the thing is, it isn't smart people getting their lives ruined by cops. There aren't any smart potheads. They're all morons, and they all need to get over it. And it isn't the weak who get addicted--it's being human. It's having a body. Your body becomes used to the chemicals, and develops a physical need for it. It has NOTHING to do with being weak. Marijuana is illegal for one simple reason--it's dangerous. An inhalant AND a hallucinogen--NOT a winning combination. It goes straight to your brain and IMMEDIATELY begins killing brain cells. On top of that, it fucks with your nerves, your vision, and can permanently damage your body. So don't pull this, "Marijuana should be legal" bullshit on us. America is protecting its citizens by keeping that shit down. It's fucking stupid potheads who think they can trick the intelligent people into legalizing the damn stuff by claiming "it's only bad because it's illegal." Give me a fucking break. We aren't dumb. The damn stuff is illegal. Get the fuck over it. Honestly, mRFAGTARD, if you try calling the addicts weak, look at yourself--you're in here trying to pull some bullshit about you being a strong pothead. NO ONE IS BUYING IT. If your a pothead, you're an idiot. Just face it. You can be the strongest pothead, maybe even the smartest pothead, but in the end you're just the strongest or smartest moron.

mGARANDEUR1 wrote...
It should be treated just like any other crop. The government shouldn't be able to regulate it just like they shouldn't be able to regulate my tomato plants.


Tomatoes aren't out there killing brain cells, funding gangs, ruining lives.


First of all, Marijuana does not cause a physical addiction. Cigarettes and heroin are physical addictions, not marijuana you stupid motherfucker. Marijuana is psychological, take a basic fucking psychology course. Don't talk to me like you're an expert in the field.

Second of all, I have almost completed my bachelors in chemistry and plan on pursuing my doctorate in physical chemistry. When I'm making 6 figures and you are still living with your parents, who will be the loser then?

Third of all, I only smoke once a month. Where do you get off in saying that it is addictive? How the fuck would you know? I know plenty of people who smoke and none of them are addicted. Where do you get your information from, the anti-drug commercials on popular cable channels?

Fourth of all, marijuana wouldn't be funding gangs IF IT WAS FUCKING LEGAL!! Alcohol once funded the mafia as well, but guess what happened when it was legalized again? NO MORE FUCKING MAFIA. Nobody is going to buy weed from the streets when they can get it in convenience stores.

I have plenty of research and an internship under my belt, as well as several PhDs backing me up. What do you have? 1400 posts on a hentai porn website. Woopty fucking do....loser
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mGARANDEUR1 wrote...
Noutakun wrote...
Marijuana DOES ruin peoples lives. See, the thing is, it isn't smart people getting their lives ruined by cops. There aren't any smart potheads. They're all morons, and they all need to get over it. And it isn't the weak who get addicted--it's being human. It's having a body. Your body becomes used to the chemicals, and develops a physical need for it. It has NOTHING to do with being weak. Marijuana is illegal for one simple reason--it's dangerous. An inhalant AND a hallucinogen--NOT a winning combination. It goes straight to your brain and IMMEDIATELY begins killing brain cells. On top of that, it fucks with your nerves, your vision, and can permanently damage your body. So don't pull this, "Marijuana should be legal" bullshit on us. America is protecting its citizens by keeping that shit down. It's fucking stupid potheads who think they can trick the intelligent people into legalizing the damn stuff by claiming "it's only bad because it's illegal." Give me a fucking break. We aren't dumb. The damn stuff is illegal. Get the fuck over it. Honestly, mRFAGTARD, if you try calling the addicts weak, look at yourself--you're in here trying to pull some bullshit about you being a strong pothead. NO ONE IS BUYING IT. If your a pothead, you're an idiot. Just face it. You can be the strongest pothead, maybe even the smartest pothead, but in the end you're just the strongest or smartest moron.

mGARANDEUR1 wrote...
It should be treated just like any other crop. The government shouldn't be able to regulate it just like they shouldn't be able to regulate my tomato plants.


Tomatoes aren't out there killing brain cells, funding gangs, ruining lives.


First of all, Marijuana does not cause a physical addiction. Cigarettes and heroin are physical addictions, not marijuana you stupid motherfucker. Marijuana is psychological, take a basic fucking psychology course. Don't talk to me like you're an expert in the field.

Second of all, I have almost completed my bachelors in chemistry and plan on pursuing my doctorate in physical chemistry. When I'm making 6 figures and you are still living with your parents, who will be the loser then?

Third of all, I only smoke once a month. Where do you get off in saying that it is addictive? How the fuck would you know? I know plenty of people who smoke and none of them are addicted. Where do you get your information from, the anti-drug commercials on popular cable channels?

Fourth of all, marijuana wouldn't be funding gangs IF IT WAS FUCKING LEGAL!! Alcohol once funded the mafia as well, but guess what happened when it was legalized again? NO MORE FUCKING MAFIA. Nobody is going to buy weed from the streets when they can get it in convenience stores.

I have plenty of research and an internship under my belt, as well as several PhDs backing me up. What do you have? 1400 posts on a hentai porn website. Woopty fucking do....loser


You can pull all this PhD shit right out of your ass. I don't give a flying fuck what the hell you think. Remember rurouni_cow? His ass tried to reign over us with some College degree bullshit and look where it landed him!

And you do develop a physical addiction. Just because you haven't doesn't mean others don't. If everyone in this world was like you, this would be one fucked up place. Ignorant dumbshits running around flaunting every dried-up bit of themselves that they think everyone else cares about.

And what do I have backing me up? Most, if not all of scientists, the community, and the government.

And no more Mafia? Are you stoned out of your mind? The Mafia is still around.

Go ahead, assault the fact that I live with parents. I'm legally obligated to, and most of the veteran members know why. Try to hit me with this "I automatically earn 6 figures" bullshit. No one is buying it. No one will hire your dumb ass. Just because you take medical classes and get a PhD doesn't make you an employed doctor. It makes you an overconfident imbecile who can't stand one bit of opposing viewpoint. If I study government, does that make me President of the United States? Hell fucking no. If you go to college, does that mean you're smart? Oh God no. The pot smoke must be doing more damage to your brain than I imagined.

Who's the stupid motherfucker now? Here, open your eyes a bit. I'm not sure if you can see through that haze rising out of your joint, you damned pothead. IT'S YOU. YOU'RE the stupid motherfucker. Get that through your drug-fucked mind and get a life. Drugs are for the weak and the stupid. You are both, and I am neither. Now get the hell off your chair, get out of your parents house, and GET A JOB. Maybe then the good people of this site won't have to deal with dumb fucks like you.
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Woah, relax. this subject s quickly turning into a flame war. And that's the last thing anyone wants. You guys need to take a step back, and maybe apologize to each other.
Now I'll address some issues I've found from my experience. While Marijuana doesn't cause a physical addiction, it does cause a psychological one, and in some cases that can be worse.
The mafia IS still around, but bootlegging is not as popular as it once was.
Just because you have a degree doesn't mean you're intelligent or that you will make 6 figures.

Why are you obligated to live with your parents Noutakun?

of of the issues with the legalization of pot is CONTROL. if marijuana is legalized, will it be controlled to the point that it is no longer as dangerous. As it stands, cigarettes are far more addictive, and they're legal, but under control.

Now before posting again. remember that we're posting opinions and facts, not personal attacks. Recognize that a differing opinion is not necessarily an attack on you.
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It shouldn't matter how dangerous it is for you. People use that as a point to argue. The government should not have the right to barge in on peoples personal lives. People are getting arrested and thrown in prison for committing no violent offense again anyone. You could call it a victimless crime. How can anyone justify that? Not to mention all of the money that is dumped into this stupid drug war. I quote:

NEVER before have so many Americans supported
decriminalizing and even legalizing marijuana. Seventy-two percent
say that for simple marijuana possession, people should not
be incarcerated but fined: the generally accepted definition of
“decriminalization.” Even more Americans support making marijuana
legal for medical purposes. Support for broader legalization
ranges between 25 and 42 percent, depending on how one asks the
question. Two of every five Americans—according to a 2003
Zogby poll—say “the government should treat marijuana more or
less the same way it treats alcohol: It should regulate it, control it,
tax it, and only make it illegal for children.”
Close to 100 million Americans—including more than half of
those between the ages of 18 and 50—have tried marijuana at
least once. Military and police recruiters often have no choice but
to ignore past marijuana use by job seekers. The public apparently
feels the same way about presidential and other political candidates.
Al Gore, Bill Bradley, and John Kerry all say they smoked
pot in days past. So did Bill Clinton, with his notorious caveat.
George W. Bush won’t deny he did. And ever more political, business,
religious, intellectual, and other leaders plead guilty as well.
The debate over ending marijuana prohibition simmers just
below the surface of mainstream politics, crossing ideological
and partisan boundaries. Marijuana is no longer the symbol of
Sixties rebellion and Seventies permissiveness, and it’s not just
liberals and libertarians who say it should be legal, as William
F. Buckley Jr. has demonstrated better than anyone. As director
of the country’s leading drug-policy-reform organization, I’ve
had countless conversations with police and prosecutors, judges
and politicians, and hundreds of others who quietly agree that
the criminalization of marijuana is costly, foolish, and destructive.
What’s most needed now is principled conservative leadership.
Buckley has led the way, and New Mexico’s former
governor, Gary Johnson, spoke out courageously while in
office. How about others?
by ETHAN A.NADELMANN, National Review
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mGARANDEUR1 wrote...
It shouldn't matter how dangerous it is for you. People use that as a point to argue. The government should not have the right to barge in on peoples personal lives. People are getting arrested and thrown in prison for committing no violent offense again anyone. You could call it a victimless crime. How can anyone justify that? Not to mention all of the money that is dumped into this stupid drug war. I quote:

NEVER before have so many Americans supported
decriminalizing and even legalizing marijuana. Seventy-two percent
say that for simple marijuana possession, people should not
be incarcerated but fined: the generally accepted definition of
“decriminalization.” Even more Americans support making marijuana
legal for medical purposes. Support for broader legalization
ranges between 25 and 42 percent, depending on how one asks the
question. Two of every five Americans—according to a 2003
Zogby poll—say “the government should treat marijuana more or
less the same way it treats alcohol: It should regulate it, control it,
tax it, and only make it illegal for children.”
Close to 100 million Americans—including more than half of
those between the ages of 18 and 50—have tried marijuana at
least once. Military and police recruiters often have no choice but
to ignore past marijuana use by job seekers. The public apparently
feels the same way about presidential and other political candidates.
Al Gore, Bill Bradley, and John Kerry all say they smoked
pot in days past. So did Bill Clinton, with his notorious caveat.
George W. Bush won’t deny he did. And ever more political, business,
religious, intellectual, and other leaders plead guilty as well.
The debate over ending marijuana prohibition simmers just
below the surface of mainstream politics, crossing ideological
and partisan boundaries. Marijuana is no longer the symbol of
Sixties rebellion and Seventies permissiveness, and it’s not just
liberals and libertarians who say it should be legal, as William
F. Buckley Jr. has demonstrated better than anyone. As director
of the country’s leading drug-policy-reform organization, I’ve
had countless conversations with police and prosecutors, judges
and politicians, and hundreds of others who quietly agree that
the criminalization of marijuana is costly, foolish, and destructive.
What’s most needed now is principled conservative leadership.
Buckley has led the way, and New Mexico’s former
governor, Gary Johnson, spoke out courageously while in
office. How about others?
by ETHAN A.NADELMANN, National Review


That's cool. I have no beef about you as long as you aren't making personal attacks on anyone. However, I will say one thing.

The government stops the use of marijuana because it is harmful to you. If they didn't stop things that were harmful to people, then cigarette advertising on TV would be legal, medicines that have extremely harmful side effects wouldn't be pulled off the market, and research to stop negative side effects in drugs would be halted.

... there.

NOW, I would like to think we can get off to a fresh start here. As lemiel has pointed out, you and I are causing a lot of chaos around here. We are obviously both very educated individuals. Any chance we can forget our differences and settle as equals in this land of opportunity?

Why are you obligated to live with your parents Noutakun?


When the time for you to know comes, I will tell you.
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Amsterdam, my friends Amsterdam. Back when pot was first legalized in that country there was a huge spike in usage but within a year of this initial spike usage dropped of the charts. Now fewer high school students (%wise) have tried the drug there than the number of kids in the states. With legalization the cool factor was gone and it just became another product on the shelf.

And by the way the feud between Noutakun and mGARANDEUR1 seems to have gotten out of control you both need to take a breather.
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Panda Master wrote...
And by the way the feud between Noutakun and mGARANDEUR1 seems to have gotten out of control you both need to take a breather.


Not to be Captain Obvious but, looks as if Nouta is trying that.

Noutakun wrote...
NOW, I would like to think we can get off to a fresh start here. As lemiel has pointed out, you and I are causing a lot of chaos around here. We are obviously both very educated individuals. Any chance we can forget our differences and settle as equals in this land of opportunity?


And outta interest, is Marijuana the painkiller liek Morphine or Am i thinking of another drug. (I know that a certain drug is used as a more heavy painkiller than Morhpine)
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Mattarat wrote...

And outta interest, is Marijuana the painkiller liek Morphine or Am i thinking of another drug. (I know that a certain drug is used as a more heavy painkiller than Morhpine)


Naw, marijuana isn't a pain killer. It tends to relax most people, but doesn't really dull pain effectively.