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a search system update suggestion and an idea for tag system
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Something that I think that would help a few people would be a character searching mechanic of some kind, as there are some titles that are hard to search through Ex. Evangelion and Touhou. As this is a hefty task and suggestion (as it would take a very long time to tag every character appearance in a series) I suggest opening this feature up to the F! community and give us free access to the identifying and tagging of characters as this would take the load off of the admin. and mod. considerably. This also comes into my second suggestion. I believe it would be a little nicer to be able to freely tag things as opening a book when it is not fully tagged,(on the off chance) tagged incorrectly or not tagged at all can some times lead us into genres some of us are not too fond of.
Thank you for taking the time and consideration of your busy lives to read my suggestions
Thank you for taking the time and consideration of your busy lives to read my suggestions
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Jacob would never allow this, one because he has to trust the people who are tagging on his site. Also from what I've seen a lot of people on this can't be trusted (Jacob knows this as well). That is why only a select few can tag or even mess with the Manga/Doujinshi section.
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looking at some image sites such as Zerochan and Konachan, they seem to do well with there public tagging system (a counter system on the account and if you breach a certain amount your account gets put on tagging suspension). I just thought it could be a temporary patch for maybe a week or a few days and see how it runs. If the community goes insane just because they can label something then there just a bunch of trolls that shouldn't be in the F! community in the first place.
I just think of it as a way to ease the stress on the Mod and Admin and give the F! community a way of helping the site in a way...
I just think of it as a way to ease the stress on the Mod and Admin and give the F! community a way of helping the site in a way...
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Waar
FAKKU Moderator
LouiseXMikuLover wrote...
looking at some image sites such as Zerochan and Konachan, they seem to do well with there public tagging system (a counter system on the account and if you breach a certain amount your account gets put on tagging suspension). I just thought it could be a temporary patch for maybe a week or a few days and see how it runs. If the community goes insane just because they can label something then there just a bunch of trolls that shouldn't be in the F! community in the first place.I just think of it as a way to ease the stress on the Mod and Admin and give the F! community a way of helping the site in a way...
How are we stressed by having few tags/no tags for every character?
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Flaser
OCD Hentai Collector
Actually I support the idea, as no matter how many mods & admins Jacob mints, they won't be able to keep up with the tide of new content the site has, never mind back-tagging the old.
However it *shouldn't* be a free for-all, as we've seen the kind of anarchy that leads to. This calls for moderation... which minted mods & admins couldn't handle! We'd be back on square one.
The only alternative is the democratisation of moderation too. Let the users moderate themselves. The systems we should keep an eye on are indeed the various *boorus and e-hentai.
The flipside of this "plan" is that it can't be done half-baked. The needed features have to be in place at the same time, or we'll end up with a tide of excrement on our hands.
Tags can't be an on-off affair, they'd need to be voteable, granting community the ability to come to a consensus. Users could then fine-tune their "tag-threshold" (how many votes a tag has to have before it shows up in their search). Down- and up-votes should be tracked separately, so controversial items are highlighted by default and a vote-casts should be searchable by date, making vote-spamming easier to filter and remove. (In fact rules limiting the up/down-votes on tags could make this easier, say a tag can't receive more than 10 votes within an hour if it already has 20 votes).
Mods should be able to lock certain titles from community tagging et all, lock in certain tags, (so they can't be removed) or lock tags out (blacklists). Tagging rights should also be revokable and mods should be able to punish troll taggers with a single click. (I.e. all voters voting NTR in a vanilla title).
The nifty thing about the scheme is that with this moderation in place, restrictions on user created tags could be loosened in time.
However this *can't* be pulled off in the ad-hoc manner Jacob usually develops features. To work, to be implementable it'd have to be planned, specifications drawn up, coded and tested before the feature is let loose on the community...
...all in all, a pipe-dream knowing what HR assets the site has at its disposal.
However it *shouldn't* be a free for-all, as we've seen the kind of anarchy that leads to. This calls for moderation... which minted mods & admins couldn't handle! We'd be back on square one.
The only alternative is the democratisation of moderation too. Let the users moderate themselves. The systems we should keep an eye on are indeed the various *boorus and e-hentai.
The flipside of this "plan" is that it can't be done half-baked. The needed features have to be in place at the same time, or we'll end up with a tide of excrement on our hands.
Tags can't be an on-off affair, they'd need to be voteable, granting community the ability to come to a consensus. Users could then fine-tune their "tag-threshold" (how many votes a tag has to have before it shows up in their search). Down- and up-votes should be tracked separately, so controversial items are highlighted by default and a vote-casts should be searchable by date, making vote-spamming easier to filter and remove. (In fact rules limiting the up/down-votes on tags could make this easier, say a tag can't receive more than 10 votes within an hour if it already has 20 votes).
Mods should be able to lock certain titles from community tagging et all, lock in certain tags, (so they can't be removed) or lock tags out (blacklists). Tagging rights should also be revokable and mods should be able to punish troll taggers with a single click. (I.e. all voters voting NTR in a vanilla title).
The nifty thing about the scheme is that with this moderation in place, restrictions on user created tags could be loosened in time.
However this *can't* be pulled off in the ad-hoc manner Jacob usually develops features. To work, to be implementable it'd have to be planned, specifications drawn up, coded and tested before the feature is let loose on the community...
...all in all, a pipe-dream knowing what HR assets the site has at its disposal.
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Spoiler:
... If we have a big rush of new contents everyday like e-hentai or gel, then yes. But as per now, with less than ten updates per day (on average), I think having a few tag helpers is enough. Besides from what I've observed, not many users (mostly those who only posted comments on the manga section) understand the meaning of each tags.
