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POLL - ADDING 100% ANONYMOUS PAYMENT OPTION
Do you want the 100% anonymous payment option Paysafecard added as payment option?
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Dear Jacob and Fakku Staff.
There is one 100% anonymous payment option out there in the wild which can be used in America (explanation later on) as well as in Europe and elsewhere. But because i live in Europe and here this payment option is the defacto standard for 100% anonymous adult internet sales, i added some remarks specific to your possible European customers.
What i want to tell you is that Paysafecard is the standard for adult anonymous buying in Europe. Even big Companies like Steam (steampowered.com), Origin (PC Games and such) accept paysafecard as well. Its really big but not so known in the US because there they use credit cards mostly, while in Europe still most use cash and VERY FEW have Credit Cards at all. Because of this cultural and economic difference, Paysafecard is very popular in Europe. It can be bought everywhere in shops, Post offices supermarkets pumpstations etc. You get an anonymous Pin Code with your PSC which not even the company issueing them knows what you do with it. Like Prepaid mobile phone cards/codes you can buy in the supermarket. So as an American if you buy a PS Card (online for example if there is no shop available around you who has the PS Card) then they know just that you bought and ordered one Card online. The Pincode is secret and what you do with it cant be traced to you then.
On the other Hand we cant buy prepaid Bitcoins over here.
Just prepaid visa or prepaid Paysafecard.
I think because this is not known by American Companies, they therefore dont understand the need for European Customers to have access to their service with paysafecard.
Difference between prepaid Visa (in Europe at least) and why Paysafecard is better and more popular:
1. Prepaid Visa costs 10 $ just for the card with no money on it with the option to add a max of 100 Euros.
Paysafecard has no cost for the card itself.
2. Prepaid Visa has 1 Year max usage.
Prepaid Paysafecard is time unlimited.
3. Prepaid Visa burns any rest amount of 100 Euros and takes off 1,5 % transaction fee of the buyer for dollar currency purchase.
Paysafecard takes no transaction fee for foreign currency and you can use 2 or 3 cards and combine them to use the rest of your card.
4. prepaid Visa Cards must be activated online by mobile phone. You must add a name and adress etc.
Prepaid Paysafecards need no activation at all, so therefore are more anonymous and and easier to use.
I hope Paysafe card will be made available as payment option for all your customers. With a little bit research on the net you can easily see that it is very popular over here.
Paysafecard can be bought in 37 countries including the U.S.
For full list of countries please go to https://www.paysafecard.com/
I want to support you buy buying around 300 Dollars worth of Manga anually (now subscription + books) but only if Paysafecard is added. (i could get it for free anyway or other likewise unlicensed stuff but I WANT TO SUPPORT YOU! but only if Fakku supports willing customers who need 100% anonymity as well, by considering adding other payment options like paysafecard)
Otherwise because of the four problems i mentioned above it is too troublesome to buy from you. With Visa Prepaid i would pay 30 Euros Card fee for 3 cards to be able to buy 300 Dollars worth. Every card would leave a rest of 1 to 10 dollars which i probably couldnt use because of the low amount. So with Visa prepaid for buying 300 Dollars i must pay 300 + 30-40 fees = 340 Euros. With Paysafecard i could buy 300 euro and use 300 euro on your site every year without the trouble with mobile phone activation fees and extra. For 100% anonymity i would need to buy a throwaway mobile phone and sim card as well. I hope you understand that customers in Europe have different problems and needs than your American customers although even Americans can order paysafecards.
From their own site some quotes:
"The online market is rapidly growing, but 35% of all EU citizens do not have a credit card (source: ECB statistics, 2010). And many of those who have, do not wish to use it online. Fears of sensitive information being abused or lost are limiting the potential for success for online vendors. Paysafecard removes these obstacles and creates the optimal conditions for additional online revenues."
"Online cash payments for 1 billion customers.
Available in 40 countries.
Europe's leading prepaid solution for paying online."
"Available at 500.000 sales outlets worldwide.
Thousands of online shops accept paysafecard"
https://www.paysafecard.com/en-global/business/company/
P.S. Another important reason is that my own Credit Card and paypal and such is shared with the wife. So the only option is prepaid Cards..... This is also one of the main reasons why prepaid card should be made available as payment options.
There is one 100% anonymous payment option out there in the wild which can be used in America (explanation later on) as well as in Europe and elsewhere. But because i live in Europe and here this payment option is the defacto standard for 100% anonymous adult internet sales, i added some remarks specific to your possible European customers.
What i want to tell you is that Paysafecard is the standard for adult anonymous buying in Europe. Even big Companies like Steam (steampowered.com), Origin (PC Games and such) accept paysafecard as well. Its really big but not so known in the US because there they use credit cards mostly, while in Europe still most use cash and VERY FEW have Credit Cards at all. Because of this cultural and economic difference, Paysafecard is very popular in Europe. It can be bought everywhere in shops, Post offices supermarkets pumpstations etc. You get an anonymous Pin Code with your PSC which not even the company issueing them knows what you do with it. Like Prepaid mobile phone cards/codes you can buy in the supermarket. So as an American if you buy a PS Card (online for example if there is no shop available around you who has the PS Card) then they know just that you bought and ordered one Card online. The Pincode is secret and what you do with it cant be traced to you then.
On the other Hand we cant buy prepaid Bitcoins over here.
Just prepaid visa or prepaid Paysafecard.
I think because this is not known by American Companies, they therefore dont understand the need for European Customers to have access to their service with paysafecard.
Difference between prepaid Visa (in Europe at least) and why Paysafecard is better and more popular:
1. Prepaid Visa costs 10 $ just for the card with no money on it with the option to add a max of 100 Euros.
Paysafecard has no cost for the card itself.
2. Prepaid Visa has 1 Year max usage.
Prepaid Paysafecard is time unlimited.
3. Prepaid Visa burns any rest amount of 100 Euros and takes off 1,5 % transaction fee of the buyer for dollar currency purchase.
Paysafecard takes no transaction fee for foreign currency and you can use 2 or 3 cards and combine them to use the rest of your card.
4. prepaid Visa Cards must be activated online by mobile phone. You must add a name and adress etc.
Prepaid Paysafecards need no activation at all, so therefore are more anonymous and and easier to use.
I hope Paysafe card will be made available as payment option for all your customers. With a little bit research on the net you can easily see that it is very popular over here.
Paysafecard can be bought in 37 countries including the U.S.
For full list of countries please go to https://www.paysafecard.com/
I want to support you buy buying around 300 Dollars worth of Manga anually (now subscription + books) but only if Paysafecard is added. (i could get it for free anyway or other likewise unlicensed stuff but I WANT TO SUPPORT YOU! but only if Fakku supports willing customers who need 100% anonymity as well, by considering adding other payment options like paysafecard)
Otherwise because of the four problems i mentioned above it is too troublesome to buy from you. With Visa Prepaid i would pay 30 Euros Card fee for 3 cards to be able to buy 300 Dollars worth. Every card would leave a rest of 1 to 10 dollars which i probably couldnt use because of the low amount. So with Visa prepaid for buying 300 Dollars i must pay 300 + 30-40 fees = 340 Euros. With Paysafecard i could buy 300 euro and use 300 euro on your site every year without the trouble with mobile phone activation fees and extra. For 100% anonymity i would need to buy a throwaway mobile phone and sim card as well. I hope you understand that customers in Europe have different problems and needs than your American customers although even Americans can order paysafecards.
From their own site some quotes:
"The online market is rapidly growing, but 35% of all EU citizens do not have a credit card (source: ECB statistics, 2010). And many of those who have, do not wish to use it online. Fears of sensitive information being abused or lost are limiting the potential for success for online vendors. Paysafecard removes these obstacles and creates the optimal conditions for additional online revenues."
"Online cash payments for 1 billion customers.
Available in 40 countries.
Europe's leading prepaid solution for paying online."
"Available at 500.000 sales outlets worldwide.
Thousands of online shops accept paysafecard"
https://www.paysafecard.com/en-global/business/company/
P.S. Another important reason is that my own Credit Card and paypal and such is shared with the wife. So the only option is prepaid Cards..... This is also one of the main reasons why prepaid card should be made available as payment options.
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Unfortunately paysafe denied us because we are an adult merchant, but we are looking into other anonymous options.
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animefreak_usa
Child of Samael
Jacob wrote...
Unfortunately paysafe denied us because we are an adult merchant, but we are looking into other anonymous options.How about the normal prepaid visa cards. Do they even accept them on the credit processor?
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Sorry if that is the case but perhaps the others can suggest another 100 % prepaid anonymous payment option besides Bitcoin and prepaid visacards.
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Freerep wrote...
Sorry if that is the case but perhaps the others can suggest another 100 % prepaid anonymous payment option besides Bitcoin and prepaid visacards.Sorry to disappoint you after you made the topic, we are working hard to make more payment options available. We plan to also have redemption cards for subscriptions, similar to Xbox Live cards and everything else.
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Hi Jacob,
one proposal that i have is following. Make your own "Currency" called Fakku Points or something like this. 1 Point = 1 US Cent. 10 Dollar a digital book = 1000 F. Points for example. The Fakku Points should be buyable like gift cards and you should be able to give the PIN Code for a gift card to someone else.
You could even sent "Fakku Point gift cards by post" Which include a pincode which must be rubbed free. You could order such a Fakku Point gift card, would rub the Pincode free and could enter it in your anonymous account. Nobody not even fakku company could trace the Sent Pincode Cards because they are protected like Bank Pins under the plastic which must be rubbed free.
This would allow perhaps even reseller to sell them centrally in Europe (no customs inside the EU).
If you add that to the possibility to gift your own Fakku Points to another Account online as well this would cause at least plausible Deniance.
"I just bought Fakku Points" but no one would be the wiser what and who exactly bought anything or for what the Points have been used in the end. It would certainly increase security if serverside if account A gifts 1000 F.Points to Account B, that if the transfer is completed all the transfer data should be wiped of the server automatically serverside after the gifttransfer. As i know you are not required to save the information of who gifts his Fakku Points to who. So if you are not required by law to save the information of who gifts who then you could adjust the server to just transfer the balance and dont save any information of the actual balance transfer from where to where.
I think you must consider privacy is a very important point because there are many interested people (perhaps even lawyers, judges, police officers, politicians) who want to buy from you but are concerned about privacy issues.
In light of the last big scandal concerning a dating site hack (forgot the name of the site but it was big news everywhere) which lead even to suicides i think the topic is very important especially considering the controversial nature of some of the content here.
one proposal that i have is following. Make your own "Currency" called Fakku Points or something like this. 1 Point = 1 US Cent. 10 Dollar a digital book = 1000 F. Points for example. The Fakku Points should be buyable like gift cards and you should be able to give the PIN Code for a gift card to someone else.
You could even sent "Fakku Point gift cards by post" Which include a pincode which must be rubbed free. You could order such a Fakku Point gift card, would rub the Pincode free and could enter it in your anonymous account. Nobody not even fakku company could trace the Sent Pincode Cards because they are protected like Bank Pins under the plastic which must be rubbed free.
This would allow perhaps even reseller to sell them centrally in Europe (no customs inside the EU).
If you add that to the possibility to gift your own Fakku Points to another Account online as well this would cause at least plausible Deniance.
"I just bought Fakku Points" but no one would be the wiser what and who exactly bought anything or for what the Points have been used in the end. It would certainly increase security if serverside if account A gifts 1000 F.Points to Account B, that if the transfer is completed all the transfer data should be wiped of the server automatically serverside after the gifttransfer. As i know you are not required to save the information of who gifts his Fakku Points to who. So if you are not required by law to save the information of who gifts who then you could adjust the server to just transfer the balance and dont save any information of the actual balance transfer from where to where.
I think you must consider privacy is a very important point because there are many interested people (perhaps even lawyers, judges, police officers, politicians) who want to buy from you but are concerned about privacy issues.
In light of the last big scandal concerning a dating site hack (forgot the name of the site but it was big news everywhere) which lead even to suicides i think the topic is very important especially considering the controversial nature of some of the content here.
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Jacob wrote...
Freerep wrote...
Sorry if that is the case but perhaps the others can suggest another 100 % prepaid anonymous payment option besides Bitcoin and prepaid visa cards.Sorry to disappoint you after you made the topic, we are working hard to make more payment options available. We plan to also have redemption cards for subscriptions, similar to Xbox Live cards and everything else.
this caught my attention "in bold"
I'm assuming the site I sent you via PM is the one you are trying out?
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Jacob wrote...
Sorry to disappoint you after you made the topic, we are working hard to make more payment options available. We plan to also have redemption cards for subscriptions, similar to Xbox Live cards and everything else.This sounds pretty cool. Looking forward to more details.
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Drifter995
Neko//Night
Jacob wrote...
Freerep wrote...
Sorry if that is the case but perhaps the others can suggest another 100 % prepaid anonymous payment option besides Bitcoin and prepaid visacards.Sorry to disappoint you after you made the topic, we are working hard to make more payment options available. We plan to also have redemption cards for subscriptions, similar to Xbox Live cards and everything else.
If I may, should also have a digital card option if you can with paypal payment. Then you could buy that (assuming it counts, as it's not adult content), then get the code in an email, and then use it on the site, instead of waiting a number of days/ weeks for it?
Lots of assuming in that, but, if it could work, that could save people time in waiting